I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday. He accidently switched the cooker hob on and left a large
packet of shredded wheat on it. The cereal went up in flames, spread to my
tea towel and some clothes and pegs/peg bag on the nearby work surface. It
caused some damage to the work surface and cooker ( burn marks) and some to
the floor where the embers were dropped when he attempted to put the fire
and flames out. The smoke though was thick and acrid ( burning plastic
pegs?) and because we have a bungalow it spread through all the rooms.

I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold and
wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can get rid
of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its got in the
bedrooms as well.

In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote:

I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday. He accidently switched the cooker hob on and left a large
packet of shredded wheat on it. The cereal went up in flames, spread to my
tea towel and some clothes and pegs/peg bag on the nearby work surface. It
caused some damage to the work surface and cooker ( burn marks) and some to
the floor where the embers were dropped when he attempted to put the fire
and flames out. The smoke though was thick and acrid ( burning plastic
pegs?) and because we have a bungalow it spread through all the rooms.

I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold and
wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can get rid
of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its got in the
bedrooms as well.

SH -- seems to me that you've done all that you can, short of
redecorating! (Another kind of overwhelming smell.) In my [limited]
experience this kind of thing goes away after a day or two, a bit like
when you've made the mistake of grilling smoked mackerel, or something,
for tea!

Meanwhile: I think you should count your lucky stars: sounds to me like
you've escaped a disaster.

2p
John

In article ,
sweetheart hotmail.com wrote:
I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold
and wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I
can get rid of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it .
Its got in the bedrooms as well.

I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Ever considered divorce?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
sweetheart hotmail.com wrote:
I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold
and wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I
can get rid of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it .
Its got in the bedrooms as well.

I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Ever considered divorce?

--

No, I wouldnt divorce him. . Besides I doubt anyone else would want me.

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...


I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Subsidiary question if anyone might answer it. Where can I get cheap ( ish)
laminate worktop. 38 mm thickness and in a plain off white or basket weave
type pattern? ( old style kitchen). Not too expensive please and available
from somewhere that is nationwide? I have checked Wicks and B&Q and they
seem to only do fancy worktops now. Not that I have much faith in B&Q. I
had a drawer set of theirs and its a bit shaky in the kitchen. Not at all
solid.

The original kitchen was a pricey fitted one at the time ( not done by me -
probably 1980's)

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:59:23 +0100, sweetheart wrote:

I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Yeah seems to neutralise most smells in soft furnishings. Donno how
it works though... Gentle squirt of the soft furnishings and plenty
of airing and hopefully the smell will have gone in a few days.

Ever considered divorce?

No, I wouldnt divorce him. . Besides I doubt anyone else would want me.

Nothing wrong with living on ones own.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com writes:
I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday. He accidently switched the cooker hob on and left a large
packet of shredded wheat on it. The cereal went up in flames, spread to my
tea towel and some clothes and pegs/peg bag on the nearby work surface. It
caused some damage to the work surface and cooker ( burn marks) and some to
the floor where the embers were dropped when he attempted to put the fire
and flames out. The smoke though was thick and acrid ( burning plastic
pegs?) and because we have a bungalow it spread through all the rooms.

I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold and
wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can get rid
of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its got in the
bedrooms as well.

Tends to linger in soft furnishings for longer. Suggest vacuum cleaning
or washing things like curtains.

Do you have smoke detectors fitted, and did they work?

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com writes:


Do you have smoke detectors fitted, and did they work?

I have washed everything. I have come to the conclusion it must be on the
walls. No, we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I will be
able to do it myself.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:59:23 +0100, sweetheart wrote:

I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Yeah seems to neutralise most smells in soft furnishings. Donno how
it works though... Gentle squirt of the soft furnishings and plenty
of airing and hopefully the smell will have gone in a few days.

Ever considered divorce?

No, I wouldnt divorce him. . Besides I doubt anyone else would want me.

Nothing wrong with living on ones own.


For some. I am not one of those. I like having someone to live with.

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com writes:


Do you have smoke detectors fitted, and did they work?

I have washed everything. I have come to the conclusion it must be on the
walls. No, we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I will
be able to do it myself.

They can be, just use double sided foam tape.
They may not work as well but they are far better than nothing.

dennis@home wrote:

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message

we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I
will be able to do it myself.

just use double sided foam tape.

So the heat will melt the foam/glue, it'll fall on the floor and the
battery will ping out, granted you'd hope they'd have woken you up
before it got to that stage ...

On Aug 11, 12:56*pm, Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message

we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I
will be able to do it myself.

just use double sided foam tape.

So the heat will melt the foam/glue, it'll fall on the floor and the
battery will ping out, granted you'd hope they'd have woken you up
before it got to that stage ...

they go off long before then. OP would have had much less damage had
one been fitted.

I'm not clear whether OP has washed the walls & ceilings or not, if
not they need doing. If it persists, aluminium flake paint on the
walls/ceilings etc should stop it coming from there.


NT

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Liquorice"
saying something like:

I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Yeah seems to neutralise most smells in soft furnishings

As does a solution of baking soda (perfume optional).

On 11/08/2011 12:05, sweetheart wrote:

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...


I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Subsidiary question if anyone might answer it. Where can I get cheap ( ish)
laminate worktop. 38 mm thickness and in a plain off white or basket weave
type pattern?

Ikea if you have one

wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com writes:


Do you have smoke detectors fitted, and did they work?

I have washed everything. I have come to the conclusion it must be on the
walls. No, we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I will
be able to do it myself.

Two 5mm or so holes in the plaster, two plastic plugs and screws (usually
supplied with the fire alarm) - job done. Easily done with a hand drill.

You *may* even be able to get a free alarm as part of some safety related
scheme - ring the local fire station, they sometimes help out with this
stuff...

--
Tim Watts

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
I've found Febreeze pretty good at that sort of thing.

Thank you.

Yeah seems to neutralise most smells in soft furnishings. Donno how
it works though... Gentle squirt of the soft furnishings and plenty
of airing and hopefully the smell will have gone in a few days.

I dunno how it works either. But suspect it does more than just mask one
smell with another. I've found it works for car air-con too - at a
fraction of the price of specialised products.

--
*Did you ever notice when you blow in a dog's face he gets mad at you? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:04:08 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

No, we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any. When
they
make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I will be
able
to do it myself.

two or three sticky fixers should do the job. The couple of mm thick
foam, double sided, self adhesive things

Two 5mm or so holes in the plaster, two plastic plugs and screws
(usually supplied with the fire alarm) - job done. Easily done with a
hand drill.

Agreed, they weigh not a lot so are not demandin on the fixings.

You *may* even be able to get a free alarm as part of some safety
related scheme - ring the local fire station, they sometimes help out
with this stuff...

Cumbria ceratinly do, smoke alarms do save lives.

--
Cheers
Dave.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Grimly Curmudgeon
saying something like:

Yeah seems to neutralise most smells in soft furnishings

As does a solution of baking soda (perfume optional).

baking soda error - sub with sodium bicarbonate.

On 11/08/2011 09:53, sweetheart wrote:
I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday. He accidently switched the cooker hob on and left a large
packet of shredded wheat on it. The cereal went up in flames, spread to
my tea towel and some clothes and pegs/peg bag on the nearby work
surface. It caused some damage to the work surface and cooker ( burn
marks) and some to the floor where the embers were dropped when he
attempted to put the fire and flames out. The smoke though was thick and
acrid ( burning plastic pegs?) and because we have a bungalow it spread
through all the rooms.

I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold
and wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can
get rid of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its
got in the bedrooms as well.

It should just go by itself given time. When I was nine my parent had a
fire - my mother plugged in their electric blanket, only she got the
wrong plug and plugged in the UV/infra-red lamp stored under the bed. It
was equipped with a mercury switch to stop it operating when shut, but
that failed to work when it was upside down! Anyway, the fire was
confined to their bedroom, the fire brigade managed to chop up the
remains of the bed and throw it out of the window. Only the bed, carpet,
wallpaper and a floorboard were burnt and the wardrobes scorched, but
absolutely everything upstairs was black, even the grout in the bathroom
had to be re-done. The smell was awful; my school clothes still stank,
even after having a day off while they were washed three times. It took
time, but the smell did go entirely quite soon - however blackened
objects were still turning up at the bottom of cupboards ten years later.

SteveW

Another John wrote:

SH -- seems to me that you've done all that you can, short of
redecorating! (Another kind of overwhelming smell.) In my [limited]
experience this kind of thing goes away after a day or two, a bit like
when you've made the mistake of grilling smoked mackerel, or
something, for tea!


When I changed the CH at my girlfriend parents last year I removed the
galvanised tank from the airing cupboard. After doing so I could smell
smoke. It turned out that the walls surrounding the tank were the only ones
not cleaned and repainted following a serious chip pan fire over 30 years
ago.

--
Adam

Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message

we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I
will be able to do it myself.

just use double sided foam tape.

So the heat will melt the foam/glue, it'll fall on the floor and the
battery will ping out, granted you'd hope they'd have woken you up
before it got to that stage ...

Thats heat detectors not smoke detectors!

--
Adam

On 11/08/2011 15:13, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
baking soda error - sub with sodium bicarbonate.

Same stuff.

Baking _powder_ , on the other hand, is normally sodium bicarbonate
mixed with tartaric acid. Or at least it was when I was a kid...

Andy.

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message ...
Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message

we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I
will be able to do it myself.

just use double sided foam tape.

So the heat will melt the foam/glue, it'll fall on the floor and the
battery will ping out, granted you'd hope they'd have woken you up
before it got to that stage ...

Thats heat detectors not smoke detectors!

You know what they say about smoke & fire don't you?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"Tim Watts" wrote in message ...
wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com writes:


Do you have smoke detectors fitted, and did they work?

I have washed everything. I have come to the conclusion it must be on the
walls. No, we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I will
be able to do it myself.

Two 5mm or so holes in the plaster, two plastic plugs and screws (usually
supplied with the fire alarm) - job done. Easily done with a hand drill.

You *may* even be able to get a free alarm as part of some safety related
scheme - ring the local fire station, they sometimes help out with this
stuff...

A couple of fire-fighters were going door to door handing out pairs of optical
smoke alarms with lithium batteries that weren't intended to be replaceable

They had a tendency to go off for absolutely no reason that I could see so I went
back to my radioactive ones.




--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"Steve Walker" wrote in message ...
On 11/08/2011 09:53, sweetheart wrote:
I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday. He accidently switched the cooker hob on and left a large
packet of shredded wheat on it. The cereal went up in flames, spread to
my tea towel and some clothes and pegs/peg bag on the nearby work
surface. It caused some damage to the work surface and cooker ( burn
marks) and some to the floor where the embers were dropped when he
attempted to put the fire and flames out. The smoke though was thick and
acrid ( burning plastic pegs?) and because we have a bungalow it spread
through all the rooms.

I have thrown everything out and cleaned through but the smell is still
there. I have opened all the windows and am freezing to death (its cold
and wet here). The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can
get rid of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its
got in the bedrooms as well.

It should just go by itself given time. When I was nine my parent had a fire - my mother plugged in their electric blanket, only
she got the wrong plug and plugged in the UV/infra-red lamp stored under the bed. It was equipped with a mercury switch to stop it
operating when shut, but that failed to work when it was upside down! Anyway, the fire was confined to their bedroom, the fire
brigade managed to chop up the remains of the bed and throw it out of the window. Only the bed, carpet, wallpaper and a floorboard
were burnt and the wardrobes scorched, but absolutely everything upstairs was black, even the grout in the bathroom had to be
re-done. The smell was awful; my school clothes still stank, even after having a day off while they were washed three times. It
took time, but the smell did go entirely quite soon - however blackened objects were still turning up at the bottom of cupboards
ten years later.

SteveW

My Grandfathers factory burned down when I was about that age.
One of the things we salvaged was the petty cash tin. The school secretary
was not best pleased when I kept on paying in my weekly dinner money
in charred coins

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
On 11/08/2011 15:13, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
baking soda error - sub with sodium bicarbonate.

Same stuff.

Baking _powder_ , on the other hand, is normally sodium bicarbonate mixed
with tartaric acid. Or at least it was when I was a kid...

I have both baking powder and soda crystals. The latter I use to remove
stains in my tea towels and whiten net curtains. However, I have another
problem now ( cureable), the eco warrior OH got in the pantry to read the
electric meter and took the plug to the freezer out. I did not notice.
hence last night we had one defrosted freezer and a load of lost food. It
wasnt that full fortunately. Only a gateaux, ice cream ( two tubs) some
mashed potato mix and chicken pieces.
So I have told him off. He had to take me shopping.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:46:08 +0100, "Graham." wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message ...
wrote:


"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"sweetheart" hotmail.com writes:


Do you have smoke detectors fitted, and did they work?

I have washed everything. I have come to the conclusion it must be on the
walls. No, we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then I will
be able to do it myself.

Two 5mm or so holes in the plaster, two plastic plugs and screws (usually
supplied with the fire alarm) - job done. Easily done with a hand drill.

You *may* even be able to get a free alarm as part of some safety related
scheme - ring the local fire station, they sometimes help out with this
stuff...

A couple of fire-fighters were going door to door handing out pairs of optical
smoke alarms with lithium batteries that weren't intended to be replaceable

They had a tendency to go off for absolutely no reason that I could see so I went
back to my radioactive ones.

I'm not too impressed with my radioactive ones. They go off at the
slightest hint of cooking and failed to activate the only time we had
a real fire.
--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.

sweetheart wrote:

I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday.

The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can get rid
of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its got in the
bedrooms as well.

Get yourself one or two of these; they are brilliant.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PREM-I-AIR-C...3138026&sr=8-9

We used one in the dining room to get rid of odours such as curry;
even on the low-speed setting it clears overnight.

We used the other to freshen a room that had a mysterious odour that
smelled of drains - I think it was spilt milk that had got under the
lammy floor.

Put one in your bedroom and keep the door closed; run it 24/7 until
clear. Use the other round the various rooms in turn. There are larger
versions available.
--

TF

On 12/08/2011 06:45, sweetheart wrote:

I have both baking powder and soda crystals. The latter I use to remove
stains in my tea towels and whiten net curtains. However, I have another
problem now ( cureable), the eco warrior OH got in the pantry to read
the electric meter and took the plug to the freezer out. I did not
notice. hence last night we had one defrosted freezer and a load of lost
food. It wasnt that full fortunately. Only a gateaux, ice cream ( two
tubs) some mashed potato mix and chicken pieces.
So I have told him off. He had to take me shopping.

shakes head in disbelief
So what is your OH good at? Did he attend school and learn about simle
things like decay of food? How long have you been together? Every time
you mention him on here it's virtually beyond belief, and I have visions
of you being repressed like some Afghan woman, kept inside all day in a
mud compound! Do you have any children?

On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:19:10 +0100, Mark wrote:

I'm not too impressed with my radioactive ones. They go off at the
slightest hint of cooking and failed to activate the only time we had
a real fire.

Installing smoke detectors is not a straight forward as it first
appears. For a start one shouldn't put optical or ionisation ones in
a kitchen as the muck put into the air from cooking can cause false
alarms.

Kitchens should have fixed temperature heat detectors or possibly
rate of rise heat detectors. Corridors and stair wells, where there
likely to be air movement optical. Optical detectors are better at
detecting slow smouldering fires than ionistaion ones.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Graham. wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
Andy Burns wrote:
dennis@home wrote:

"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message

we do not have smoke detectors. OH would never fit any.
When they make them so that they can be glued on the ceiling then
I will be able to do it myself.

just use double sided foam tape.

So the heat will melt the foam/glue, it'll fall on the floor and the
battery will ping out, granted you'd hope they'd have woken you up
before it got to that stage ...

Thats heat detectors not smoke detectors!

You know what they say about smoke & fire don't you?

Yep. Look at 11min 16 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-rrZWMIaQ

--
Adam

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Andy Champ
saying something like:

Baking _powder_ ,

That's the stuff I was erroneously thinking of.

In article ,
sweetheart hotmail.com wrote:

I have both baking powder and soda crystals. The latter I use to remove
stains in my tea towels and whiten net curtains. However, I have another
problem now ( cureable), the eco warrior OH got in the pantry to read the
electric meter and took the plug to the freezer out. I did not notice.
hence last night we had one defrosted freezer and a load of lost food. It
wasnt that full fortunately. Only a gateaux, ice cream ( two tubs) some
mashed potato mix and chicken pieces.

Sounds like quite an ample dinner ...

Nick
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"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
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"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
On 11/08/2011 15:13, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
baking soda error - sub with sodium bicarbonate.

Same stuff.

Baking _powder_ , on the other hand, is normally sodium bicarbonate mixed
with tartaric acid. Or at least it was when I was a kid...

I have both baking powder and soda crystals. The latter I use to remove
stains in my tea towels and whiten net curtains. However, I have another
problem now ( cureable), the eco warrior OH got in the pantry to read the
electric meter and took the plug to the freezer out. I did not notice.
hence last night we had one defrosted freezer and a load of lost food.
It wasnt that full fortunately. Only a gateaux, ice cream ( two tubs) some
mashed potato mix and chicken pieces.
So I have told him off. He had to take me shopping.

two tubs? OMG

Jim K

"Part Timer" wrote in message
...
On 12/08/2011 06:45, sweetheart wrote:


shakes head in disbelief
So what is your OH good at? Did he attend school and learn about simle
things like decay of food? How long have you been together? Every time you
mention him on here it's virtually beyond belief, and I have visions of
you being repressed like some Afghan woman, kept inside all day in a mud
compound! Do you have any children?

Well, a lot of questions there. I sure he knows about decay of food . He
is/ was a plumber by trade - so qualified and a four year apprenticeship and
a year at college full time on a mech engineering technicians multi trades
course ( pre apprenticeship)
.. He has just never been very good at doing things for me. He lived for
his job. He did put a bathroom in after 12 years of my asking and he did
it well. The bathroom is the best room in my house.

He could do things but mostly wont. He is a better electrician than
plumber. He was a brilliant gas fitter but his firm would not make use of
his skills - preferred young girl apprentices because the "PC rules" made
it better for them to employ females on the grounds of "diversity" and he
was retired to make way for them. He is a good carpenter but very slow
because its not his trade. He can brick lay but again is slow and its not
his trade. Since he was retired off he has become more useless. We do need
some French and Patio doors because ours are rotten and he is thinking about
that at the moment.

When I was younger he would drive ( I couldn't and he taught me) . We had
an agreement he would do DIY and go to work and be a breadwinner and I
would do the cooking and cleaning and look after him but that stopped
applying three or four years ago when he got made redundant/ forced to
retire. Now he is obsessed with saving money because he is on a works
pension ( there is a recession on as the TV keeps telling him) . He is
obsessed with my job and my losing it so we will have to go to the workhouse
( I am serious!) . He is obsessed with not being good enough to do anything,
so I have had to take over a lot of the jobs he would once have done with
some nagging. I was never taught to so much as knock a nail in a piece of
wood, having been educated for other things.

We have been together since 1978.

We never got round to children , mostly my fault because I had a stupid
career (academic). My mistake, not his. I regret that. So now you know,
thats what happens when women take over the bloody world. That's about it.

"Jim K" wrote in message
o.uk...
"sweetheart" hotmail.com wrote in message
...

"Andy Champ" wrote in message
. uk...
On 11/08/2011 15:13, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
baking soda error - sub with sodium bicarbonate.

Same stuff.

Baking _powder_ , on the other hand, is normally sodium bicarbonate
mixed with tartaric acid. Or at least it was when I was a kid...

I have both baking powder and soda crystals. The latter I use to remove
stains in my tea towels and whiten net curtains. However, I have
another problem now ( cureable), the eco warrior OH got in the pantry to
read the electric meter and took the plug to the freezer out. I did not
notice. hence last night we had one defrosted freezer and a load of lost
food. It wasnt that full fortunately. Only a gateaux, ice cream ( two
tubs) some mashed potato mix and chicken pieces.
So I have told him off. He had to take me shopping.

two tubs? OMG

He likes ice cream and it comes cheaper if you buy two tubs from Tesco.

"Terry Fields" wrote in message
...

sweetheart wrote:

I do not seem to be having the best of luck. OH set fire to my kitchen
yesterday.

The smell is now through the whole house. Any way I can get rid
of this smoke smell? I cannot carry on sleeping with it . Its got in the
bedrooms as well.

Get yourself one or two of these; they are brilliant.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/PREM-I-AIR-C...3138026&sr=8-9

We used one in the dining room to get rid of odours such as curry;
even on the low-speed setting it clears overnight.

We used the other to freshen a room that had a mysterious odour that
smelled of drains - I think it was spilt milk that had got under the
lammy floor.

Put one in your bedroom and keep the door closed; run it 24/7 until
clear. Use the other round the various rooms in turn. There are larger
versions available.
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I might try that. I am still hoping OH will let me have a new kitchen. Not
that its that bad but the worksurface and the floor are scorched. and I
think it is going to need redecorating to get the smell out of the walls and
ceilin g.

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When I was younger he would drive ( I couldn't and he taught me) . We had
an agreement he would do DIY and go to work and be a breadwinner and I
would do the cooking and cleaning and look after him but that stopped
applying three or four years ago when he got made redundant/ forced to
retire. Now he is obsessed with saving money because he is on a works
pension ( there is a recession on as the TV keeps telling him) . He is
obsessed with my job and my losing it so we will have to go to the
workhouse ( I am serious!) . He is obsessed with not being good enough to
do anything,

I think you married my dad!

Sounds like he needs to get his a**s out and go and join a club, even a
walking club. He's going mouldy sitting at home and losing his confidence
and status as "being useful"....

--
Tim Watts

"Graham." wrote in message
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You know what they say about smoke & fire don't you?

But like most old sayings they are wrong.

On 12/08/2011 17:30, sweetheart wrote:

Well, a lot of questions there. I sure he knows about decay of food . He
is/ was a plumber by trade - so qualified and a four year apprenticeship
and a year at college full time on a mech engineering technicians multi
trades course ( pre apprenticeship)
. He has just never been very good at doing things for me. He lived for
his job. He did put a bathroom in after 12 years of my asking and he did
it well. The bathroom is the best room in my house.

He could do things but mostly wont. He is a better electrician than
plumber. He was a brilliant gas fitter but his firm would not make use
of his skills - preferred young girl apprentices because the "PC rules"
made it better for them to employ females on the grounds of "diversity"
and he was retired to make way for them. He is a good carpenter but very
slow because its not his trade. He can brick lay but again is slow and
its not his trade. Since he was retired off he has become more useless.
We do need some French and Patio doors because ours are rotten and he is
thinking about that at the moment.

When I was younger he would drive ( I couldn't and he taught me) . We
had an agreement he would do DIY and go to work and be a breadwinner and
I would do the cooking and cleaning and look after him but that stopped
applying three or four years ago when he got made redundant/ forced to
retire. Now he is obsessed with saving money because he is on a works
pension ( there is a recession on as the TV keeps telling him) . He is
obsessed with my job and my losing it so we will have to go to the
workhouse ( I am serious!) . He is obsessed with not being good enough
to do anything, so I have had to take over a lot of the jobs he would
once have done with some nagging. I was never taught to so much as knock
a nail in a piece of wood, having been educated for other things.

We have been together since 1978.

We never got round to children , mostly my fault because I had a stupid
career (academic). My mistake, not his. I regret that. So now you know,
thats what happens when women take over the bloody world. That's about it.

Thanks for setting the scene. I think it's most helpful for the regulars
to know what you (and him) are capable of doing when giving answers to
your queries. Hope I wasn't too intrusive - the children question just
answered whether you have another line of help.
All the best!