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Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out
the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly.
This is the third time this has happened in the family.

But it's very quick and easy to check on-line if you are on the
database. I think I shall be doing this in future when changing cars.
Can also check MOT status via DVLA, but you need a number off the V5C or
MOT certificate for that.

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Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit snotty
given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out the
useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly. This
is the third time this has happened in the family.

But it's very quick and easy to check on-line if you are on the database.
I think I shall be doing this in future when changing cars. Can also check
MOT status via DVLA, but you need a number off the V5C or MOT certificate
for that.

www.asmmid.com


a broken link?

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Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit snotty
given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out the
useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly. This
is the third time this has happened in the family.

But it's very quick and easy to check on-line if you are on the database.
I think I shall be doing this in future when changing cars. Can also check
MOT status via DVLA, but you need a number off the V5C or MOT certificate
for that.

www.asmmid.com


a broken link?

Typo:-

http://www.askmid.com/

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Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out
the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly.
This is the third time this has happened in the family.


Lucky they didn't seize your car and charge you hundreds to get it back from
the pound.


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On 29/07/2011 15:09, Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out
the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly.
This is the third time this has happened in the family.


Careful, you are getting Dennis all excited!



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On 29/07/2011 15:09, Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out
the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly.
This is the third time this has happened in the family.


Careful, you are getting Dennis all excited!


About what?
the fact the database can be wrong?
I know it can, it has been wrong for me in the past.

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On 30/07/2011 22:21, dennis@home wrote:


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On 29/07/2011 15:09, Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out
the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly.
This is the third time this has happened in the family.


Careful, you are getting Dennis all excited!


About what?
the fact the database can be wrong?


No, more that the widespread roll out of high tech surveillance
technologies to "detect" crime is usually non practical due to the false
positive rate.

In spite of the apologists spouting the typical (and easily debunked)
mantra of "if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear", any
such measures can only have a chance of working if based on reliable and
accurate data. Alas has been shown many times, the error rate in public
databases is frighteningly high.

I know it can, it has been wrong for me in the past.


You and most others I am sure.


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On 30/07/2011 19:54, Steve Walker wrote:
Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns out
the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated correctly.
This is the third time this has happened in the family.


Lucky they didn't seize your car and charge you hundreds to get it back from
the pound.


They gave me the lecture about the new rules; it's my wife's car, I
think they thought I might have been driving a taxed but uninsured car
on my own "drive anything" insurance.

I know of one case when they seized what turned out to be an uninsured
car out of office hours. I'd be interested to know what the actual legal
position is if they did sieze a "legal" car. Am now carrying the
certificate in the car for the moment.
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:05:37 +0100, Newshound wrote:

On 30/07/2011 19:54, Steve Walker wrote:
Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns
out the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated
correctly. This is the third time this has happened in the family.


Lucky they didn't seize your car and charge you hundreds to get it back
from the pound.


They gave me the lecture about the new rules; it's my wife's car, I
think they thought I might have been driving a taxed but uninsured car
on my own "drive anything" insurance.

I know of one case when they seized what turned out to be an uninsured
car out of office hours. I'd be interested to know what the actual legal
position is if they did sieze a "legal" car. Am now carrying the
certificate in the car for the moment.


uk.legal is the better place, but I suspect that the legal position is
"bad luck" ... with the phrase "good faith" following behind.

There's no point in keeping the certificate in the car. There was a case
reported a while back where a motorist was stopped because the MID didn't
show their car. They showed the police the cert, but the police didn't
believe it, with the (correct) answer that the *policy* could have been
cancelled. Since they were unable to contact the insurer (Sunday
afternoon IIRC) they impounded the car.

Which leads to the question, what *is* sufficient proof you are insured.
ISTM the MID has supplanted the notion of holding a certificate
(especially since you can now get e-certificates). Which is fine, but

a) nobody seems to have been consulted over this
and
b) some brokers seem a little lackadaisical about updating the MID.

so you are left with having to self-check.

Having worked in the motor trade, I wonder how many people who *are*
insured on an insure-any-car policy get stopped because the car they are
driving isn't in the MID ? And how do you prove to the police then you're
insured, if they say "we think the policy could be cancelled" ?
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Having worked in the motor trade, I wonder how many people who *are*
insured on an insure-any-car policy get stopped because the car they
are driving isn't in the MID ? And how do you prove to the police
then you're insured, if they say "we think the policy could be
cancelled" ?


That's changed now. All cars have to be insured or SORNed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13836625
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13508147

So you cannot drive an uninsured car with your "any car" policy.

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:05:37 +0100, Newshound wrote:

On 30/07/2011 19:54, Steve Walker wrote:
Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns
out the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated
correctly. This is the third time this has happened in the family.

Lucky they didn't seize your car and charge you hundreds to get it back
from the pound.


They gave me the lecture about the new rules; it's my wife's car, I
think they thought I might have been driving a taxed but uninsured car
on my own "drive anything" insurance.

I know of one case when they seized what turned out to be an uninsured
car out of office hours. I'd be interested to know what the actual legal
position is if they did sieze a "legal" car. Am now carrying the
certificate in the car for the moment.


uk.legal is the better place, but I suspect that the legal position is
"bad luck" ... with the phrase "good faith" following behind.

There's no point in keeping the certificate in the car. There was a case
reported a while back where a motorist was stopped because the MID didn't
show their car. They showed the police the cert, but the police didn't
believe it, with the (correct) answer that the *policy* could have been
cancelled. Since they were unable to contact the insurer (Sunday
afternoon IIRC) they impounded the car.

Which leads to the question, what *is* sufficient proof you are insured.
ISTM the MID has supplanted the notion of holding a certificate
(especially since you can now get e-certificates). Which is fine, but

a) nobody seems to have been consulted over this


The users were consulted, it is of no concern to drivers.

and
b) some brokers seem a little lackadaisical about updating the MID.


Its the insurance companies job, isn't it?


so you are left with having to self-check.

Having worked in the motor trade, I wonder how many people who *are*
insured on an insure-any-car policy get stopped because the car they are
driving isn't in the MID ? And how do you prove to the police then you're
insured, if they say "we think the policy could be cancelled" ?


There is a big difference between the policies that say insured to drive any
car like mine does and real insured for any car.
Although I won't get into trouble driving any car, the owner of the car
might as my insurance won't get it out of being impounded. There is a
requirement for the vehicle to be insured, not the driver.

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On 01/08/2011 10:27, Jethro wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:05:37 +0100, Newshound wrote:

On 30/07/2011 19:54, Steve Walker wrote:
Newshound wrote:
Got pulled over by the police yesterday, first time for well over 40
years, ANPR camera showing no insurance. I thought they were a bit
snotty given that I'm an old fart with 45 years clean license. Turns
out the useless insurance broker had failed to get the DB updated
correctly. This is the third time this has happened in the family.

Lucky they didn't seize your car and charge you hundreds to get it back
from the pound.


They gave me the lecture about the new rules; it's my wife's car, I
think they thought I might have been driving a taxed but uninsured car
on my own "drive anything" insurance.

I know of one case when they seized what turned out to be an uninsured
car out of office hours. I'd be interested to know what the actual legal
position is if they did sieze a "legal" car. Am now carrying the
certificate in the car for the moment.


uk.legal is the better place, but I suspect that the legal position is
"bad luck" ... with the phrase "good faith" following behind.

There's no point in keeping the certificate in the car. There was a case
reported a while back where a motorist was stopped because the MID didn't
show their car. They showed the police the cert, but the police didn't
believe it, with the (correct) answer that the *policy* could have been
cancelled. Since they were unable to contact the insurer (Sunday
afternoon IIRC) they impounded the car.

Which leads to the question, what *is* sufficient proof you are insured.
ISTM the MID has supplanted the notion of holding a certificate
(especially since you can now get e-certificates). Which is fine, but

a) nobody seems to have been consulted over this
and
b) some brokers seem a little lackadaisical about updating the MID.

so you are left with having to self-check.

Having worked in the motor trade, I wonder how many people who *are*
insured on an insure-any-car policy get stopped because the car they are
driving isn't in the MID ? And how do you prove to the police then you're
insured, if they say "we think the policy could be cancelled" ?


Yes, indeed. My worries exactly. But at least it's easy to self-check,
which is why I posted. Better to waste a couple of minutes a year than
face the considerable grief of getting a car seized.

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you turn
out to be wrong".
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you turn
out to be wrong".


There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years. Used to be a copper (even a traffic cop) could
exercise a bit of discretion and let you on your way if he was satisfied
it looked kosher.
To turn round and say, "Well, the policy could have been cancelled", is
nothing short of sheer idiocy. The Moon could be made of blue cheese, in
that case.
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 16:47:04 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had


better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you

turn
out to be wrong".


I think I would leave the second sentence off. No need to wind the
officer up.

To turn round and say, "Well, the policy could have been cancelled", is
nothing short of sheer idiocy.


There speaks an honest man, trouble is many people are far less
honest and will try it on. The failing of course is in the reliance
on the database and no means of checking outside of office hours that
a policy is valid should some evidence contrary to what the database
is says comes to light.

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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you
turn out to be wrong".


There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years.



Idiocy seems to be a requirement these days to join the police.

1am in the morning and I am awoken by two police officers. The reason,
someone was trying door handles two streets away and the police dog has
"indicated" my house.

Now the first question the officers asked me was "Has anyone entered or left
your house in the last 45 minutes". To prove that no one had I showed them
my CCTV footage.

The CCTV showed the police dog chasing my cat down my path. That was the
"indicator" that required the police to wake me up.

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through the front
door, where are they?"





Used to be a copper (even a traffic cop) could
exercise a bit of discretion and let you on your way if he was
satisfied it looked kosher.
To turn round and say, "Well, the policy could have been cancelled",
is nothing short of sheer idiocy. The Moon could be made of blue
cheese, in that case.


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1am in the morning and I am awoken by two police officers. The reason,
someone was trying door handles two streets away and the police dog has
"indicated" my house.

Now the first question the officers asked me was "Has anyone entered or left
your house in the last 45 minutes". To prove that no one had I showed them
my CCTV footage.

The CCTV showed the police dog chasing my cat down my path. That was the
"indicator" that required the police to wake me up.

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through the front
door, where are they?"


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ARWadsworth wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you
turn out to be wrong".

There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years.



Idiocy seems to be a requirement these days to join the police.

1am in the morning and I am awoken by two police officers. The reason,
someone was trying door handles two streets away and the police dog has
"indicated" my house.

Now the first question the officers asked me was "Has anyone entered or left
your house in the last 45 minutes". To prove that no one had I showed them
my CCTV footage.

The CCTV showed the police dog chasing my cat down my path. That was the
"indicator" that required the police to wake me up.

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through the front
door, where are they?"



Golly. round here you don't SEE a copper from one year to the next.

Its all done with neighbourhood watch, who tell me what's been nicked
and where, and the number plate to look out for..

We are, it seems, the local police force.

Here's a sample:-

"Rather more crime this week than recently, but not without a moment of
humour:

An arrest was made for being drunk and disorderly in Clare, a wing
mirror was damaged overnight in Kedington and garden ornaments were
stolen overnight from a front garden in another village.

A white 21-gear Claude Butler mountain bike with black saddle was stolen
from outside Lloyds Bank in Clare in the middle of the day. This might
have been a self-drive, get-u-home €˜borrowing of the bike, so please
keep a look out for it abandoned in the area before it gets stolen €˜for
keeps. Since then I have started noticing unlocked bikes left outside
premises. Sounds daft in this modern day, so if you see an unlocked
bike outside a shop or office please do pop your head round the door and
warn the receptionist/shopkeeper that visitors are risking the theft of
their bikes. This could be quite a good way of reaching cyclists, who
will quickly realise that if you had been someone else their bike would
have gone.

Whepstead saw 2 overnight burglaries last week, involving the theft of
office equipment and cash €“ one of them was through an unlocked door.
Burglaries of houses are rare (both overall and when compared with
outbuildings). But this shows that there are at least some people around
at night (maybe very few) and that an unlocked door can be found by them.

A scrap collector helped himself overnight to some scrap copper from a
house in Cavendish. Ill not bang on again about discouraging the
€˜scrap tourists we get €“ well not right now, anyway.

The surreal moment of the week was when one of our number told me of
some meerkats stolen from someones garden. Trying to deduce some
insightful comment on this before circulating it to you, I had a happy
15 minutes learning all about keeping these fashionable ferret-like pets
which should definitely not be kept indoors or let near strangers, etc.
Just before pressing €˜send, my lovely assistant, who had not
participated in the research, observed that my helpful and informative
musings might seem a little odd in the context of meerkat statuettes.
Checking with the original informant confirmed that the said meerkats
were indeed of the inanimate variety. You were, dear reader, spared the
confusion and I, the embarrassment.

I had a good session with the SNTeam yesterday. More of that later.
They repeated how useful they are finding all the reports and theyd
like us to keep them coming and keep on reminding people about the
importance of reporting to 01473 613500 (control room). I think they
are motivated by our contributions just as we, I hope, feel better for
the feedback."


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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through the front
door, where are they?"


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On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:52:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Golly. round here you don't SEE a copper from one year to the next.


See the car passing once a week or so.

Here's a sample:-


Blimey what a crime ridden area you are in. That weeks list would be
almost 6 months worth round here. Similar stuff though alchol related
distubance, minor criminal damage, theft normally done by "outsiders"
again metals, oils (red and yellow) and tools/machinery left in
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through
the front door, where are they?"


slaps head


And I had a customer last lear who is in the armed response team.

I prepared all the cables as I was waiting for the sockets to be delivered.
He asked "how do you know which cables to cover in brown or blue plastic?".

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote:
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you
turn out to be wrong".
There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years.



Idiocy seems to be a requirement these days to join the police.

1am in the morning and I am awoken by two police officers. The
reason, someone was trying door handles two streets away and the
police dog has "indicated" my house.

Now the first question the officers asked me was "Has anyone entered
or left your house in the last 45 minutes". To prove that no one had
I showed them my CCTV footage.

The CCTV showed the police dog chasing my cat down my path. That was
the "indicator" that required the police to wake me up.

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through
the front door, where are they?"



Golly. round here you don't SEE a copper from one year to the next.


We still have a manned police station in the village. And the sergeant likes
to walk around the village so you do see a lot of him. To cap it all he is
not stupid. He refused to prosecute a 12 year old lad for criminal damage
when he smashed a window playing football. He said thats what 12 year old
lads do.


Of course any police after 8pm are from the town centre wearing body armour
and with their fingers ready on the pepper spray can.

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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you turn
out to be wrong".


There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years. Used to be a copper (even a traffic cop) could
exercise a bit of discretion and let you on your way if he was satisfied
it looked kosher.
To turn round and say, "Well, the policy could have been cancelled", is
nothing short of sheer idiocy. The Moon could be made of blue cheese, in
that case.


These days there are a load of idiots that do cancel as soon as the
certificate arrives.
Maybe they should remove the cooling off period?

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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you
turn out to be wrong".


There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years.



Idiocy seems to be a requirement these days to join the police.

1am in the morning and I am awoken by two police officers. The reason,
someone was trying door handles two streets away and the police dog has
"indicated" my house.

Now the first question the officers asked me was "Has anyone entered or
left your house in the last 45 minutes". To prove that no one had I showed
them my CCTV footage.

The CCTV showed the police dog chasing my cat down my path. That was the
"indicator" that required the police to wake me up.

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through the
front door, where are they?"


tis funny how some people have trouble wit police, while most don't. I can't
think why?

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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through
the front door, where are they?"


slaps head


And I had a customer last lear who is in the armed response team.

I prepared all the cables as I was waiting for the sockets to be
delivered. He asked "how do you know which cables to cover in brown or
blue plastic?".


Valid question, he may want to sleeve some red and black he found in a
suspects shed.

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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you
turn out to be wrong".


There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years. Used to be a copper (even a traffic cop)
could exercise a bit of discretion and let you on your way if he was
satisfied it looked kosher.
To turn round and say, "Well, the policy could have been cancelled",
is nothing short of sheer idiocy. The Moon could be made of blue
cheese, in that case.


These days there are a load of idiots that do cancel as soon as the
certificate arrives.
Maybe they should remove the cooling off period?


Before the database you could just print any old ****e off on a computer and
pass it off as an insurance certificate at a police station after getting a
producer.

The "certificate" was never checked other than by the woman behind the desk
who only noted the name, address and valid dates of the certificate.

Before I was able to get insurance to drive in eastern europe I always used
to print off a certificate to keep the Slovakian, Czech and Polish police
and border gaurds happy.

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dennis@home wrote:
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you
turn out to be wrong".

There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years.



Idiocy seems to be a requirement these days to join the police.

1am in the morning and I am awoken by two police officers. The
reason, someone was trying door handles two streets away and the
police dog has "indicated" my house.

Now the first question the officers asked me was "Has anyone entered
or left your house in the last 45 minutes". To prove that no one had
I showed them my CCTV footage.

The CCTV showed the police dog chasing my cat down my path. That was
the "indicator" that required the police to wake me up.

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of the
officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house through the
front door, where are they?"


tis funny how some people have trouble wit police, while most don't.
I can't think why?


I was not in trouble. In fact they were quite pleased to see the CCTV
footage as it showed that no-one had come to my house or indeed walked down
the street from the moment the incident occured to the police arriving.

They were searching the wrong area.

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dennis@home wrote:
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
the drugs began to take hold. I remember "ARWadsworth"
saying something like:

About 5 minutes into the footage after the cat was chased one of
the officers said " two blokes have just gone into your house
through the front door, where are they?"

slaps head


And I had a customer last lear who is in the armed response team.

I prepared all the cables as I was waiting for the sockets to be
delivered. He asked "how do you know which cables to cover in brown
or blue plastic?".


Valid question, he may want to sleeve some red and black he found in a
suspects shed.


Why would anyone need to sleeve cables that power a socket (apart from the
earth)?

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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Newshound
saying something like:

If they challenge the certificate, what do you say? "If you don't
believe me, you obviously think I am driving uninsured, so you had
better arrest me. Then I can sue you for wrongful arrest when you turn
out to be wrong".


There seems to be a crop of robotic idiots been recruited to the cop
forces in recent years. Used to be a copper (even a traffic cop) could
exercise a bit of discretion and let you on your way if he was satisfied
it looked kosher.
To turn round and say, "Well, the policy could have been cancelled", is
nothing short of sheer idiocy. The Moon could be made of blue cheese, in
that case.


These days there are a load of idiots that do cancel as soon as the
certificate arrives.
Maybe they should remove the cooling off period?

Many also opt for the "pay monthly" option for car insurance and stop paying
the monthly instalments once they have a certificate. The idiots don't
realise that the insurance company cancel the policy and remove the vehicle
from the database.

Mike


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