Just had a phone call from someone who sounded as though he came from the
Indian sub-continent.

He said he was from Sky, and this was a follow up call - he wasn't trying to
sell me anything (fat chance!!).
When I insisted that he gave me a number to call back to confirm his
identity he said "Incoming call" and hung up.

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.
However I am not a Sky subscriber (not that I mentioned this) and the other
reports have been from Sky subscribers.

And yes, I know that I could have had hours of harmless fun keeping him on
the line but I happen to be busy at the moment :-)

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing. Report,
trace, block; that might discourage them from preying on the naive and
confused.

Cheers

Dave R

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Jun 9, 1:24*pm, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:
Just had a phone call from someone who sounded as though he came from the
Indian sub-continent.

He said he was from Sky, and this was a follow up call - he wasn't trying to
sell me anything (fat chance!!).
When I insisted that he gave me a number to call back to confirm his
identity he said "Incoming call" and hung up.

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.
However I am not a Sky subscriber (not that I mentioned this) and the other
reports have been from Sky subscribers.

And yes, I know that I could have had hours of harmless fun keeping him on
the line but I happen to be busy at the moment :-)

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing. Report,
trace, block; that might discourage them from preying on the naive and
confused.

And your point is?

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.


So why don't you tell us what the nature of the scam is then?
Do they ask you to "confirm" your credit card details, or something else?

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
Just had a phone call from someone who sounded as though he came from the
Indian sub-continent.

He said he was from Sky, and this was a follow up call - he wasn't trying
to sell me anything (fat chance!!).
When I insisted that he gave me a number to call back to confirm his
identity he said "Incoming call" and hung up.

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.
However I am not a Sky subscriber (not that I mentioned this) and the
other reports have been from Sky subscribers.

And yes, I know that I could have had hours of harmless fun keeping him on
the line but I happen to be busy at the moment :-)

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing.

There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

tim

"Graham." wrote in message
...

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.


So why don't you tell us what the nature of the scam is then?
Do they ask you to "confirm" your credit card details, or something else?


Because the caller didn't get as far as the scam.
When I insisted on a call back number he gave up.

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:12:45 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:

When I insisted on a call back number he gave up.

You trust a call back number given to you by a cold caller? Oh well,
I guess the IS one born every minute. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?


Make it someone else's problem. Eg reduce overseas aid spending in
India by 50p for every scam call from India (as measured by ONS
supervised sampling)? Repeat as and when problem migrates.
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com

Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:12:45 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:

When I insisted on a call back number he gave up.

You trust a call back number given to you by a cold caller? Oh well,
I guess the IS one born every minute. B-)

Only if he is still there when you call him back on that number
;-)

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
...
Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:12:45 +0100, David WE Roberts wrote:

When I insisted on a call back number he gave up.

You trust a call back number given to you by a cold caller? Oh well,
I guess the IS one born every minute. B-)

Only if he is still there when you call him back on that number
;-)

Chris


Didn't say I would use it.
Just wanted to see if he would supply one that I could then check out on
t'Internet.
However he wasn't willing to give one, which makes him much less prepared
than some other cold callers.

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

On 09/06/2011 13:24, David WE Roberts wrote:
Just had a phone call from someone who sounded as though he came from
the Indian sub-continent.

He said he was from Sky, and this was a follow up call - he wasn't
trying to sell me anything (fat chance!!).
When I insisted that he gave me a number to call back to confirm his
identity he said "Incoming call" and hung up.

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.
However I am not a Sky subscriber (not that I mentioned this) and the
other reports have been from Sky subscribers.

And yes, I know that I could have had hours of harmless fun keeping him
on the line but I happen to be busy at the moment :-)

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually
overseas) calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from
completing. Report, trace, block; that might discourage them from
preying on the naive and confused.

Cheers

Dave R


They are usually offering to sell you a service contract for the Sky
box, the same happens with Dyson vacuum cleaners and other things people
are likely to have in their house.

Not a scam as such, just sharp practice, but they word it so it sounds
like they are calling from Sky etc, usually without saying so directly

--
Toby...
Remove pants to reply

On Jun 9, 8:10*pm, "Robin" wrote:
There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

Make it someone else's problem. *Eg reduce overseas aid spending in
India by 50p for every scam call from India *(as measured by ONS
supervised sampling)? *Repeat as and when problem migrates.

Just stop all aid to India. They have enough mill- & billionaires whoc
could show a little philanthropy close to home, not to mention their
space program.

Goes for other countries too.

MBQ

On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:08:48 +0100, "tim...."
wrote:


"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...
Just had a phone call from someone who sounded as though he came from the
Indian sub-continent.

He said he was from Sky, and this was a follow up call - he wasn't trying
to sell me anything (fat chance!!).
When I insisted that he gave me a number to call back to confirm his
identity he said "Incoming call" and hung up.

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.
However I am not a Sky subscriber (not that I mentioned this) and the
other reports have been from Sky subscribers.

And yes, I know that I could have had hours of harmless fun keeping him on
the line but I happen to be busy at the moment :-)

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing.

There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

Make caller ID compulsory. All UK telcos would be responsible for
ensuring accuracy. Large fines imposed for breaches.

--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.

Mark wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:08:48 +0100, "tim...."
wrote:

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing.
There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

Make caller ID compulsory. All UK telcos would be responsible for
ensuring accuracy. Large fines imposed for breaches.

Caller ID very rarely works across national boundaries under BT, IME. If
a call is not from a BT line, it tends to say either "Outside area"
"Overseas call" or a paraphrasing of it. "Outside area" used to mean a
Hull Telecom number, too. Gives me an easy way to screen Spam curry.
"Unknown Number" normally means someone's hiding a UK number, and I
ignore those, too.
--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On Jun 9, 1:24*pm, "David WE Roberts"
wrote:
Just had a phone call from someone who sounded as though he came from the
Indian sub-continent.

He said he was from Sky, and this was a follow up call - he wasn't trying to
sell me anything (fat chance!!).
When I insisted that he gave me a number to call back to confirm his
identity he said "Incoming call" and hung up.

I have Googled this, and the type of scam is common and goes back many
years.
However I am not a Sky subscriber (not that I mentioned this) and the other
reports have been from Sky subscribers.

And yes, I know that I could have had hours of harmless fun keeping him on
the line but I happen to be busy at the moment :-)

well I used to have an old tape recorder handy ready to play back some
classic Derek and Clive
http://www.ajarnforum.net/vb/the-vir...ing-to-em.html

Which would be great fun for someone from the indian continent, might
give them a better grasp of real English ;-)
or some choice Klington from star trek.

Or of course just be polite and talk in another language even if it's
a made up one, but that takes time#
which is why I'd leave a tape or ipod running.


I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing. Report,
trace, block; that might discourage them from preying on the naive and
confused.

Cheers

Dave R

--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:29:48 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Mark wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:08:48 +0100, "tim...."
wrote:

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing.
There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

Make caller ID compulsory. All UK telcos would be responsible for
ensuring accuracy. Large fines imposed for breaches.

Caller ID very rarely works across national boundaries under BT, IME. If
a call is not from a BT line, it tends to say either "Outside area"
"Overseas call" or a paraphrasing of it.

It says "Unavailable" for me. This is the case for all International
calls.

"Outside area" used to mean a
Hull Telecom number, too. Gives me an easy way to screen Spam curry.
"Unknown Number" normally means someone's hiding a UK number, and I
ignore those, too.

If the CLI is available but withheld I see "Withheld".

If the telcos are make responsible then they either display a valid
number (or withheld) or reject the call.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:29:48 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Mark wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:08:48 +0100, "tim...."
wrote:

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually
overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing.
There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

Make caller ID compulsory. All UK telcos would be responsible for
ensuring accuracy. Large fines imposed for breaches.

Caller ID very rarely works across national boundaries under BT, IME. If
a call is not from a BT line, it tends to say either "Outside area"
"Overseas call" or a paraphrasing of it.

It says "Unavailable" for me. This is the case for all International
calls.

"Outside area" used to mean a
Hull Telecom number, too. Gives me an easy way to screen Spam curry.
"Unknown Number" normally means someone's hiding a UK number, and I
ignore those, too.

If the CLI is available but withheld I see "Withheld".

If the telcos are make responsible then they either display a valid
number (or withheld) or reject the call.

Its called choose to refuse or something similar.
You can have it on any BT or Sky line and probably on virgin too.
The caller gets an announcement that says if you want to call you have to
display CLI.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:50:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:



"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:29:48 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Mark wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:08:48 +0100, "tim...."
wrote:

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

I might have to put the answer phone on two rings for a while.
There really should be some legislation to force these (usually
overseas)
calls to leave some valid ID behind or prevent them from completing.
There is, but how the heck do you enforce it?

Make caller ID compulsory. All UK telcos would be responsible for
ensuring accuracy. Large fines imposed for breaches.

Caller ID very rarely works across national boundaries under BT, IME. If
a call is not from a BT line, it tends to say either "Outside area"
"Overseas call" or a paraphrasing of it.

It says "Unavailable" for me. This is the case for all International
calls.

"Outside area" used to mean a
Hull Telecom number, too. Gives me an easy way to screen Spam curry.
"Unknown Number" normally means someone's hiding a UK number, and I
ignore those, too.

If the CLI is available but withheld I see "Withheld".

If the telcos are make responsible then they either display a valid
number (or withheld) or reject the call.

Its called choose to refuse or something similar.
You can have it on any BT or Sky line and probably on virgin too.
The caller gets an announcement that says if you want to call you have to
display CLI.

That's no use. A lot of legitimate calls show unavailable or
withheld.
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Due to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking some articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:50:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

8

Its called choose to refuse or something similar.
You can have it on any BT or Sky line and probably on virgin too.
The caller gets an announcement that says if you want to call you have to
display CLI.

That's no use. A lot of legitimate calls show unavailable or
withheld.

There is no reason why a legitimate call should not have a correct
presentation number.. even BG can get it right so anyone should be able to.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...


"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:50:35 +0100, "dennis@home"
wrote:

8

Its called choose to refuse or something similar.
You can have it on any BT or Sky line and probably on virgin too.
The caller gets an announcement that says if you want to call you have to
display CLI.

That's no use. A lot of legitimate calls show unavailable or
withheld.

There is no reason why a legitimate call should not have a correct
presentation number.. even BG can get it right so anyone should be able
to.

But the reality is that they don't.