For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

On May 27, 7:05*pm, Jim K wrote:
For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

No experience, but I just happened to have been looking at this
website, and saw these which could be suitable:
http://www.ensorbuilding.com/section.../envirochannel
I drove past the depot today, so was just looking them up to see what
they sold.

A

On May 27, 7:05*pm, Jim K wrote:
For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why use a
grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it in. If it
does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:
On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why use a
grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it in. If it
does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down the
lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

Jim K

Jim K wrote:

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

Wavin Polychannel polymer concrete drainage channel, it's available in
widths from 100-300mm and there is a range of grating types available
that includes types that lock to the drainage channel. I think the
version that you would want is Polychannel SKS which is the heavy duty
version for farmyards and truck yards.

There's also Polychannel SPQ which is the stuff used for drainage
channels on motorways and where bridges are joined to the carriageway. I
think that would be overkill for your uses, it's designed for thousands
of vehicles per hour and also to resist vibration and movement.

There's a PDF guide to the range he

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3zq788g

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K writes
On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:
On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why use a
grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it in. If it
does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down the
lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

Can you not crown the road and run the surface water off either side.
While you are concreting in the ribbed drain you can form a gully with
no edge on the water side. You sound to need something like a Dutch
ford: water can run across the road when it rains heavily.

regards
--
Tim Lamb

On May 27, 9:28 pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message
, Jim
K writes



On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:
On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why use a
grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it in. If it
does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down the
lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

Can you not crown the road and run the surface water off either side.
While you are concreting in the ribbed drain you can form a gully with
no edge on the water side. You sound to need something like a Dutch
ford: water can run across the road when it rains heavily.

mmm dutch ford? - tried a google just lots of old motors ;)

Any links/alternative phrases?

Cheers

Jim K

Jim K wrote:

On May 27, 9:28 pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message
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Jim K writes



On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:
On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8
or 10 inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over
(preferably pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty
drainage channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why
use a grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it
in. If it does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down
the lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

Can you not crown the road and run the surface water off either
side. While you are concreting in the ribbed drain you can form a
gully with no edge on the water side. You sound to need something
like a Dutch ford: water can run across the road when it rains
heavily.

mmm dutch ford? - tried a google just lots of old motors ;)

Any links/alternative phrases?

Also called an Irish Bridge ..

http://www.wetroads.co.uk/southyorkshire.htm

See top description and another further down ..

--
Paul - xxx

On May 27, 8:59*pm, Jim K wrote:
On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:





On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8 or 10
inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over (preferably
pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty drainage
channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why use a
grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it in. If it
does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down the
lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

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In my experience drainage channels of this length are a PITA. If
there is huge runoff (esp if there is lots of crap) they just get
frequently blocked. You would do better to lay the road with a fall to
one side and have an open gulley down the side of the road. If it's
steep it will self clean.

They also get blocked with leaves that can somehow get down through
the narrowest of grills.

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writes
Jim K wrote:

On May 27, 9:28 pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message
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Jim K writes



On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:
On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8
or 10 inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over
(preferably pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty
drainage channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why
use a grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it
in. If it does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down
the lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

Can you not crown the road and run the surface water off either
side. While you are concreting in the ribbed drain you can form a
gully with no edge on the water side. You sound to need something
like a Dutch ford: water can run across the road when it rains
heavily.

mmm dutch ford? - tried a google just lots of old motors ;)

Any links/alternative phrases?

Also called an Irish Bridge ..

http://www.wetroads.co.uk/southyorkshire.htm

See top description and another further down ..

The one here was constructed around 1940 and used a dozen or so 15"
steel pipes, laid parallel and then concreted over to form the road bed.
Very prone to blocking by floating debris. Huge problems with floating
islands of blanket weed due to phosphate from detergents in the '50's.

regards


--
Tim Lamb

On May 28, 8:04 am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
Jim K wrote:
On May 27, 9:28 pm, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message
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Jim K writes

On May 27, 8:49 pm, cynic wrote:
On May 27, 7:05 pm, Jim K wrote:

For a farm access road with stream over. Will need to be say 8
or 10 inch deep and same wide with meaty enough grills over
(preferably pikey proof and say, 10tonne wagon proof)

Can anyone suggest makes/specs/anything to do with heavy duty
drainage channels ???

(NB NOT the mickey mouse size stuff in Wickes ;) ta)

TIA

Jim K

If you are looking at crossing about ten to twenty feet wide why
use a grill? lay a ribbed drainage pipe across and concrete it
in. If it does become obstructed it can be rodded or jetted.

well - it's at the foot of a short incline so runoff coming down
the lane has to join into the stream... through the grilles

Can you not crown the road and run the surface water off either
side. While you are concreting in the ribbed drain you can form a
gully with no edge on the water side. You sound to need something
like a Dutch ford: water can run across the road when it rains
heavily.

mmm dutch ford? - tried a google just lots of old motors ;)

Any links/alternative phrases?

Also called an Irish Bridge ..

http://www.wetroads.co.uk/southyorkshire.htm

See top description and another further down ..


Ah so it's an ordinary "ford" then presumably supplementing a pipe/
culvert that is not big enough to handle "peak flows"?

Well an idea but after the stream crosses, the track fairly quickly
dips down again - so I'm wondering if there would be enough
space(length) to get the falls and rises gentle enough for cars to not
scrape on the lower downhill side "crest", spose could build it up but
all £££££

Take the points re grilled channels bunging up with ****e, but the
stream runs 365days and thus far (10years) keeps itself from running
further down the track (unless bunged up by scrotes...) it's just the
track is unmade and very suusceptible to scour/washout & subsequent
potholing etc.

Just trying to formulate the best plan.

It may be we need to replicate what's already there - in concrete? but
how to stop up stream whilst it sets?? hence idea of something
"precast" in some way to ease laying - anyone know of any very large
shallow driveableover dished precast concrete channels? or do I make
some?;))

Cheers
Jim K