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Bill[_18_] May 18th 11 09:37 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
I need to make or have made 2 additional removable steel supports to
match 6 that came with a trailer.
The present ones have a smaller steel pipe adjustable inside a 2"
outside diameter steel pipe. The larger steel pipe drops in to sockets
on the trailer, and has a 1/4" plate welded about 8" up to stop it
dropping through the socket and support part of the 2.5 tons to be
carried.

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.

Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.

Would it be easier to hack and bodge something like an old Acrow prop?
What is the o/d of one of these or are they all different?

Any other ideas? Is this the sort of thing a decent metal fabrication
shop should be able to knock up simply and cheaply? The 6 original props
are all different, so it looks as though they were cobbled up out of
whatever materials were to hand.
--
Bill

Jim K[_3_] May 18th 11 10:03 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
On May 18, 9:37 am, Bill wrote:
I need to make or have made 2 additional removable steel supports to
match 6 that came with a trailer.
The present ones have a smaller steel pipe adjustable inside a 2"
outside diameter steel pipe. The larger steel pipe drops in to sockets
on the trailer, and has a 1/4" plate welded about 8" up to stop it
dropping through the socket and support part of the 2.5 tons to be
carried.

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.

Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.

Would it be easier to hack and bodge something like an old Acrow prop?
What is the o/d of one of these or are they all different?

Any other ideas? Is this the sort of thing a decent metal fabrication
shop should be able to knock up simply and cheaply? The 6 original props
are all different, so it looks as though they were cobbled up out of
whatever materials were to hand.
--
Bill


plasma cutter - I would hope any decent welding/fabrication outfit
would have at least one, surprising your trailer man doesn't (at
least) have a contact who could??

Jim K

[email protected] May 18th 11 10:24 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
On Wed, 18 May 2011 09:37:38 +0100, Bill wrote:


My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.

Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.


With a decently sharp hole saw and a drop of oil as lubrication it
should be quite easy and quick if the power tool is reasonably
powerful. Used to similar jobs regularly. A note of caution. If the
tool is powerful enough to do a reasonable job it will be strong
enough to hurt you and break from grip if the saw jams which it often
does just as it breaks through unless you are ready.
A drill with a clutch is recommended if you have access to one.

G.Harman

Andy Dingley May 18th 11 10:52 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
On May 18, 9:37*am, Bill wrote:

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.


Plasma cutter. A trailer place might not have one, but any halfway
decent steel fabricator will.


Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.


OD usually, but it's a hard job to get real accuracy out of them
anyway.

Acrow props are quite heavy, as they're specced for a serious loading,
more than you'd need for a trailer leg.

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] May 18th 11 11:23 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
Bill wrote:
I need to make or have made 2 additional removable steel supports to
match 6 that came with a trailer.
The present ones have a smaller steel pipe adjustable inside a 2"
outside diameter steel pipe. The larger steel pipe drops in to sockets
on the trailer, and has a 1/4" plate welded about 8" up to stop it
dropping through the socket and support part of the 2.5 tons to be carried.

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.

Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.

Would it be easier to hack and bodge something like an old Acrow prop?
What is the o/d of one of these or are they all different?

Any other ideas? Is this the sort of thing a decent metal fabrication
shop should be able to knock up simply and cheaply? The 6 original props
are all different, so it looks as though they were cobbled up out of
whatever materials were to hand.


Isn't a 2" hole in 1/4" steel plate exactly the sort of thing a
hypersonic depleted uranium round is supposed to make?

Any friends in the Army?

PeterC May 18th 11 01:01 PM

Big round hole in steel
 
On Wed, 18 May 2011 11:23:57 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bill wrote:
I need to make or have made 2 additional removable steel supports to
match 6 that came with a trailer.
The present ones have a smaller steel pipe adjustable inside a 2"
outside diameter steel pipe. The larger steel pipe drops in to sockets
on the trailer, and has a 1/4" plate welded about 8" up to stop it
dropping through the socket and support part of the 2.5 tons to be carried.

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.

Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.

Would it be easier to hack and bodge something like an old Acrow prop?
What is the o/d of one of these or are they all different?

Any other ideas? Is this the sort of thing a decent metal fabrication
shop should be able to knock up simply and cheaply? The 6 original props
are all different, so it looks as though they were cobbled up out of
whatever materials were to hand.


Isn't a 2" hole in 1/4" steel plate exactly the sort of thing a
hypersonic depleted uranium round is supposed to make?

Any friends in the Army?


It's worth a shot.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

Grimly Curmudgeon May 18th 11 01:33 PM

Big round hole in steel
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Bill saying
something like:

Any other ideas?


Gas axe. Doddle.

Andy Dingley May 18th 11 02:34 PM

Big round hole in steel
 
On May 18, 1:33*pm, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

Gas axe. Doddle.


I don't know anyone who still has the requisite skill with cutting
this neatly, and who doesn't already have plasma instead of oxy.

Ron Lowe[_3_] May 18th 11 07:30 PM

Big round hole in steel
 
On 18/05/2011 09:37, Bill wrote:
I need to make or have made 2 additional removable steel supports to
match 6 that came with a trailer.
The present ones have a smaller steel pipe adjustable inside a 2"
outside diameter steel pipe. The larger steel pipe drops in to sockets
on the trailer, and has a 1/4" plate welded about 8" up to stop it
dropping through the socket and support part of the 2.5 tons to be carried.

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.

Is the best tool to cut through the steel a bi-metal hole saw? Should it
be 50mm (advertised on ebay as 50mm/2") or 51 mm.

Would it be easier to hack and bodge something like an old Acrow prop?
What is the o/d of one of these or are they all different?

Any other ideas? Is this the sort of thing a decent metal fabrication
shop should be able to knock up simply and cheaply? The 6 original props
are all different, so it looks as though they were cobbled up out of
whatever materials were to hand.


Can't you just drill a series of smaller holes in a circle, gradually
enlarge them till they join up and the middle falls out, then tidy up
with a file?

--
Ron


dennis@home[_3_] May 18th 11 07:38 PM

Big round hole in steel
 


"Ron Lowe" wrote in message
...


Can't you just drill a series of smaller holes in a circle, gradually
enlarge them till they join up and the middle falls out, then tidy up with
a file?


A hole saw will do it easily especially in a pillar drill, even a £30 aldi
one.


Bill[_18_] May 18th 11 11:35 PM

Big round hole in steel
 
In message , "dennis@home"
writes


A hole saw will do it easily especially in a pillar drill, even a £30
aldi one.


Well, I've invested 99p on ebay for a hole saw, so we'll see. If I can
clear a space to get to the Fobco, I'll give it a go.

I'll also see if some local fabricators I've used before are still
there, just in case.

Thanks to all for the advice.
--
Bill

Jon Fairbairn May 19th 11 09:38 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
The Natural Philosopher writes:

Bill wrote:
My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't
happy about making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.


Isn't a 2" hole in 1/4" steel plate exactly the sort of
thing a hypersonic depleted uranium round is supposed to
make?


Easier to get the hole in the right place like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fce0vxVR4oo

--
Jón Fairbairn


Matty F May 19th 11 09:53 AM

Big round hole in steel
 
On May 18, 8:37 pm, Bill wrote:

My local friendly trailer man can do the welding but isn't happy about
making the 2" hole in the 1/4" steel plate.


I'd just use a 2" twist drill. First I'd drill a pilot hole!


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