On 03/05/2011 13:57, Mark wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2011 20:07:18 +0100, Old
wrote:

On 02/05/2011 17:15, Ian Jackson wrote:
In , Andy Cap
writes
On Mon, 02 May 2011 13:04:26 +0100, Roger
wrote:



Since when did a single party getting an overall majority ever honour
its manifesto pledges anyway?

Perhaps not, but look at what the blatant dishonesty of the Liberal
Party has
done to their reputation. With a proportional system, all policy will
be made on
the hoof, so to speak, with the excuse that there was no choice at the
time.
If you really want more democracy, the only way is to get more control
over the
programme.

Mainly because of the FPTP system, the Liberal Party is very much the
junior party in the Con-Lib coalition. It is therefore not really in a
good position to deliver some of its election promises.

In many cases, in order to preserve the unity of the coalition (and
thereby keep its foot well inside the parliamentary door), it has been
obliged to take pragmatic approach, and go along with what the
Conservatives have wanted to do.

They weren't forced to join a coalition but, like all politicians, they
are power hungry so junk their principles in favour of power.

It was a lose-lose situation for the LibDems really. If they failed
to join a coalition they would have been criticized for being
uncooperative and if they joined a coalition they would have been
criticized for supporting another party.

Had they listed those promises they were not prepared to ditch for power
it might have done them a lot of good. People would believe they meant
what they said and weren't making promises just because they would never
have to keep them. Now everyone knows you can't trust the liberals.

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On Tue, 03 May 2011 20:46:33 +0100, Old Codger
wrote:

On 03/05/2011 13:57, Mark wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2011 20:07:18 +0100, Old
wrote:

On 02/05/2011 17:15, Ian Jackson wrote:
In , Andy Cap
writes
On Mon, 02 May 2011 13:04:26 +0100, Roger
wrote:



Since when did a single party getting an overall majority ever honour
its manifesto pledges anyway?

Perhaps not, but look at what the blatant dishonesty of the Liberal
Party has
done to their reputation. With a proportional system, all policy will
be made on
the hoof, so to speak, with the excuse that there was no choice at the
time.
If you really want more democracy, the only way is to get more control
over the
programme.

Mainly because of the FPTP system, the Liberal Party is very much the
junior party in the Con-Lib coalition. It is therefore not really in a
good position to deliver some of its election promises.

In many cases, in order to preserve the unity of the coalition (and
thereby keep its foot well inside the parliamentary door), it has been
obliged to take pragmatic approach, and go along with what the
Conservatives have wanted to do.

They weren't forced to join a coalition but, like all politicians, they
are power hungry so junk their principles in favour of power.

It was a lose-lose situation for the LibDems really. If they failed
to join a coalition they would have been criticized for being
uncooperative and if they joined a coalition they would have been
criticized for supporting another party.

Had they listed those promises they were not prepared to ditch for power
it might have done them a lot of good. People would believe they meant
what they said and weren't making promises just because they would never
have to keep them. Now everyone knows you can't trust the liberals.

Just like you can't trust the tories, labour, and every other
politician.
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