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soil stack replacement - what's involved?
Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:-
they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K |
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Jim K wrote:
Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K The question is why. You may need planing permission and it they may said it has to go indoors. -- zaax |
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On Apr 15, 1:47*pm, Jim K wrote:
Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- *they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K Depends on what you've got below ground level. Replacing the cast iron with plastic is straightfprward. You can fit an anti-vacuum valve now instead of having a pipe all the way up to roof level. Your septic tank will need a vent esp. if the lid is close fitting. http://www.houseprofessionals.com/di...n/plumbing.htm |
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On Apr 15, 5:15*pm, zaax wrote:
Jim K wrote: Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- *they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K The question is why. You may need planing permission What on earth for? You might need to satisfy *building regs* if moving the toilets around. MBQ |
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On Apr 15, 5:15 pm, zaax wrote:
Jim K wrote: Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K The question is why. You may need planing permission and it they may said it has to go indoors. -- zaax mmm an unexpected thought - do you have any links for that point of view? AIUI straight replacement should not even (strictly) require BRegs as it could easily be deemed "maintenance"- ping Hugo Nebula?? Jim K |
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On Apr 15, 7:10*pm, Jim K wrote:
On Apr 15, 5:15 pm, zaax wrote: Jim K wrote: Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- *they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K The question is why. You may need planing permission and it they may said it has to go indoors. -- zaax mmm an unexpected thought - do you have any links for that point of view? AIUI straight replacement should not even (strictly) require BRegs as it could easily be deemed "maintenance"- ping Hugo Nebula?? Jim K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's something about what rooms a toilet can ajoin AIRI. eg Not a kitchen. |
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harry wrote:
Depends on what you've got below ground level. Replacing the cast iron with plastic is straightfprward. You can fit an anti-vacuum valve now instead of having a pipe all the way up to roof level. Does the existing pipe go through the eaves or round it? Might have some making good to do on the roof if you change over to a valve. |
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On Apr 16, 12:07 pm, "GB" wrote:
harry wrote: Depends on what you've got below ground level. Replacing the cast iron with plastic is straightfprward. You can fit an anti-vacuum valve now instead of having a pipe all the way up to roof level. Does the existing pipe go through the eaves or round it? Might have some making good to do on the roof if you change over to a valve. yeah good point, think its old skool around eaves (being cast iron) but will have a good look one day soon... Jim K |
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On Apr 16, 7:49 am, harry wrote:
On Apr 15, 7:10 pm, Jim K wrote: On Apr 15, 5:15 pm, zaax wrote: Jim K wrote: Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? 2 bogs up and downstairs, stack on outside straightforward enough dismantle/remove But what will be likely left to connect new (110mm) one to? (NB is a private septic tank system)... Any gotchas to be careful for? Cheers Jim K The question is why. You may need planing permission and it they may said it has to go indoors. -- zaax mmm an unexpected thought - do you have any links for that point of view? AIUI straight replacement should not even (strictly) require BRegs as it could easily be deemed "maintenance"- ping Hugo Nebula?? Jim K- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's something about what rooms a toilet can ajoin AIRI. eg Not a kitchen. well yes but I'm not adding any bogs just changing stack as part of 2 bathroom refit - AIUI BRegs can't be applied retrospectiveely - what's there is there (even if "wrong" after 4 years I beleieve window for "enforcement" is closed... Is Hugo Nebula *still* on holiday?? ;)) Jim K |
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[Default] On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:47:24 -0700 (PDT), a certain
chimpanzee, Jim K , randomly hit the keyboard and wrote: Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? Building Regs-wise. For replacement of existing sanitary fittings & drainage: -if they use no more water than before, -if it involves work to the above-ground drainage in such a way as not to prejudice health or safety, and -if it does not involve any work to the below-ground drainage, then no application is required. To dispel other myths: a WC _can_ open directly into a kitchen provided that the WC has its own wash basin, and suitable ventilation (opening window or fan). -- Hugo Nebula "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have I strayed"? |
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On Apr 16, 2:09 pm, Hugo Nebula abuse@localhost wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:47:24 -0700 (PDT), a certain chimpanzee, Jim K , randomly hit the keyboard and wrote: Likely could have another bathroom job on the cards:- they say they "need" a new soil stack as its "too narrow" (presume it's cast iron 3 inch diameter?) Never replaced a whole one before - what would the issues likely be with changing it? Building Regs-wise. For replacement of existing sanitary fittings & drainage: -if they use no more water than before, -if it involves work to the above-ground drainage in such a way as not to prejudice health or safety, and -if it does not involve any work to the below-ground drainage, then no application is required. To dispel other myths: a WC _can_ open directly into a kitchen provided that the WC has its own wash basin, and suitable ventilation (opening window or fan). -- Hugo Nebula "If no-one on the internet wants a piece of this, just how far from the pack have I strayed"? Hola! muchos gracias senor ;))) Jim K |
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