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Mira shower handset repair
I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this:
http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it Thanks David |
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Lobster wrote:
I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it Dont even try. I've had three of them and on mains pressure they blow the O-ring in about 5 seconds flat. Not fit for purpose. Gave up and fitted a cheapo. Other showers have old fashioned retro metal heads with no fancy adjustment and work fine. I vary the spray using the taps. Those things are designed to get the best out of a crap shower with limited water and bugger all pressure. Thanks David |
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On 25/02/2011 19:22, Lobster wrote:
I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. After removing the outer ring just unscrew the main plate in an anti-clockwise direction. It will feel quite stiff but should move. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it There are 4 O-rings inside separating the concentric flow areas - that's why it's quite stiff to unscrew. It's possible that one of them might have split but when mine developed the same problem it was due to a small split in the plastic body and I had to replace the whole thing. Spare O-rings should be available from Mira (part no.41137). Google came up with a place selling a set for about £3 but wanted £12.50 delivery which comes out nearly as much as a new handset. You might find a better deal on Ebay. -- Mike Clarke |
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"Lobster" wrote in message ... I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it Thanks David Mira are fairly good. I made mine last nearly 20 years at mains pressure with the help of the very nice, and knowledgeable, lady who answered the phone at Mira. This was about once every 5 years and always, luckily, the same lady. If you can get it apart, they can supply you the spares needed. Then you can fix it. Go with what Mike says. TNP I think may be mistaken in his generalisations. HTH N |
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On 2011-02-25, Lobster wrote:
I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. Others have said how to get it apart. If it's an O-ring, you're OK, but there are boot-seals farther inside the works that have perished in the one I have. I tried Mira for replacements and got this response: Thank you for your recent email. Although the 'O' seals that fit to the inside of the sprayplate are available as spares, parts housed beneath the flow divertor - including the boot seals you seek - are not. Everything beneath the flow divertor is factory-set and cannot be reassembled by hand, hence why the components you seek are not made available as spares. As such you will have to replace the shower head on this occasion. which didn't please me... -- Jón Fairbairn http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2010-09-14) |
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On 25/02/2011 21:53, Mike Clarke wrote:
On 25/02/2011 19:22, Lobster wrote: I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. After removing the outer ring just unscrew the main plate in an anti-clockwise direction. It will feel quite stiff but should move. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it I think the bin beckons! but as you seem to have experience of this shower head - does it definitely come apart as described above? I'm rotating anti-clockwise as directed, and it's indeed pretty stiff (I can hear/feel a protesting squeaky rubber seal inside) but it just keeps turning. I'd assume it's undismantlable as others suggest, except that your experience sounds otherwise? Thanks David |
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On 27/02/2011 13:04, Lobster wrote:
Many thanks for the further input. Looking closely at the shower head and your manual, the spray patterns are actually very slightly different and so they are evidently different models - anyway I just went for broke, more out of interest than anything else really - and predictable the whole thing burst apart in a flurry of broken bits of polystyrene. There was clearly no way of dismantling it properly, and how bloody irritating is that? I'd have expected more from a company like Mira. Yes, I'd have expected better from them, the replacement I bought last year was the same construction as the original so it doesn't look like they've pruned down the design of the Response head but I don't know how their other models compare. Could it have been a Mira lookalike? Mira do seem quite keen on non-serviceable bits though. The thermostatic mixer and control cartridge is designed as a non-serviceable unit costing over a hundred quid (or more if you get it direct from Mira). Ours developed a problem which left it running full flow even with the knob turned to "off". I was about to order up a replacement when our friendly local plumber said he'd taken one to bits before so it was worth a try on the grounds that we couldn't make it any worse. After prising off numerous snap on bits of plastic and springs and re-lubricating with silicone grease he got it going and I had nearly another couple of years out of it before having to get a new cartridge. If the unit hadn't been flush mounted into the wall I could have just replaced the entire shower for the same cost or less but would have had to rip off several tiles to do that. -- Mike Clarke |
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In article , Mike
Clarke scribeth thus On 27/02/2011 13:04, Lobster wrote: Many thanks for the further input. Looking closely at the shower head and your manual, the spray patterns are actually very slightly different and so they are evidently different models - anyway I just went for broke, more out of interest than anything else really - and predictable the whole thing burst apart in a flurry of broken bits of polystyrene. There was clearly no way of dismantling it properly, and how bloody irritating is that? I'd have expected more from a company like Mira. Yes, I'd have expected better from them, the replacement I bought last year was the same construction as the original so it doesn't look like they've pruned down the design of the Response head but I don't know how their other models compare. Could it have been a Mira lookalike? Mira do seem quite keen on non-serviceable bits though. The thermostatic mixer and control cartridge is designed as a non-serviceable unit costing over a hundred quid (or more if you get it direct from Mira). Ours developed a problem which left it running full flow even with the knob turned to "off". I was about to order up a replacement when our friendly local plumber said he'd taken one to bits before so it was worth a try on the grounds that we couldn't make it any worse. After prising off numerous snap on bits of plastic and springs and re-lubricating with silicone grease he got it going and I had nearly another couple of years out of it before having to get a new cartridge. If the unit hadn't been flush mounted into the wall I could have just replaced the entire shower for the same cost or less but would have had to rip off several tiles to do that. Showerspares on the net somewhere used them last year for Mira bits and cheaper./.. Excellent unit's, had a couple some 10 years now and work fine apart from one where the brushes did the motor armature a power of no good;!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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On Friday, 25 February 2011 19:22:23 UTC, Lobster wrote:
I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it Thanks David |
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On Friday, 25 February 2011 19:22:23 UTC, Lobster wrote:
I need to repair a Mira shower spray handset if possible - looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/66zwhrq (or http://www.splashdirect.com/Brands/Mira/Shower-Heads/b1343/sc1527/p9172popup362.aspx) It's got water pouring out one edge - probably a duff O-ring - does anybody know whether you can get inside the beasts to fix? I can get the rotating circular piece off the outside but any more looks tricky. Reasonably posh handset and in ohterwise excellent nick so would rather avoid binning it Thanks David |
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On Sunday, 27 February 2011 18:13:08 UTC, tony sayer wrote:
In article , Mike Clarke scribeth thus On 27/02/2011 13:04, Lobster wrote: Many thanks for the further input. Looking closely at the shower head and your manual, the spray patterns are actually very slightly different and so they are evidently different models - anyway I just went for broke, more out of interest than anything else really - and predictable the whole thing burst apart in a flurry of broken bits of polystyrene. There was clearly no way of dismantling it properly, and how bloody irritating is that? I'd have expected more from a company like Mira. Yes, I'd have expected better from them, the replacement I bought last year was the same construction as the original so it doesn't look like they've pruned down the design of the Response head but I don't know how their other models compare. Could it have been a Mira lookalike? Mira do seem quite keen on non-serviceable bits though. The thermostatic mixer and control cartridge is designed as a non-serviceable unit costing over a hundred quid (or more if you get it direct from Mira). Ours developed a problem which left it running full flow even with the knob turned to "off". I was about to order up a replacement when our friendly local plumber said he'd taken one to bits before so it was worth a try on the grounds that we couldn't make it any worse. After prising off numerous snap on bits of plastic and springs and re-lubricating with silicone grease he got it going and I had nearly another couple of years out of it before having to get a new cartridge. If the unit hadn't been flush mounted into the wall I could have just replaced the entire shower for the same cost or less but would have had to rip off several tiles to do that. Showerspares on the net somewhere used them last year for Mira bits and cheaper./.. Excellent unit's, had a couple some 10 years now and work fine apart from one where the brushes did the motor armature a power of no good;!.. -- Tony Sayer This site has given me the clue to opening the shower head to enable a thorough de-scale. Remove the outer ring by gently prizing it off with a wide thin screwdriver. Then using a rubber band type of jar lid opener I could rotate the showered hole plate anticlockwise to remove. Below that is a white plate with a central crosshead screw. Undoing that allows access to the bits below. Lift the white plate up vertically noting where all the little parts below are located if required but only the perforated shower disc really needs to be remove. Separate the rubber plate from the plastic frame and soak all in vinegar to remove the lime scale. Thanks for the clue how get the head apart. On Sunday, 27 February 2011 18:13:08 UTC, tony sayer wrote: In article , Mike Clarke scribeth thus On 27/02/2011 13:04, Lobster wrote: Many thanks for the further input. Looking closely at the shower head and your manual, the spray patterns are actually very slightly different and so they are evidently different models - anyway I just went for broke, more out of interest than anything else really - and predictable the whole thing burst apart in a flurry of broken bits of polystyrene. There was clearly no way of dismantling it properly, and how bloody irritating is that? I'd have expected more from a company like Mira. Yes, I'd have expected better from them, the replacement I bought last year was the same construction as the original so it doesn't look like they've pruned down the design of the Response head but I don't know how their other models compare. Could it have been a Mira lookalike? Mira do seem quite keen on non-serviceable bits though. The thermostatic mixer and control cartridge is designed as a non-serviceable unit costing over a hundred quid (or more if you get it direct from Mira). Ours developed a problem which left it running full flow even with the knob turned to "off". I was about to order up a replacement when our friendly local plumber said he'd taken one to bits before so it was worth a try on the grounds that we couldn't make it any worse. After prising off numerous snap on bits of plastic and springs and re-lubricating with silicone grease he got it going and I had nearly another couple of years out of it before having to get a new cartridge. If the unit hadn't been flush mounted into the wall I could have just replaced the entire shower for the same cost or less but would have had to rip off several tiles to do that. Showerspares on the net somewhere used them last year for Mira bits and cheaper./.. Excellent unit's, had a couple some 10 years now and work fine apart from one where the brushes did the motor armature a power of no good;!.. -- Tony Sayer |
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My mira response shower head was dropped in bath and has come apart showing two springs and a cross thread screw on the spray part. Is it beyond putting back together? I have tried to no avail!
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I think a plastic bit normally splits where a screw fixes it together and
needs a part replacing. I do hate plastic engineering myself. I do not have one of these, but a neighbour did. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! wrote in message ... My mira response shower head was dropped in bath and has come apart showing two springs and a cross thread screw on the spray part. Is it beyond putting back together? I have tried to no avail! |
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