Left handed Chainsaw
My son had to have some big trees cut down at his new house after the
recent gales. He has been left with loads of wood, branches etc., and I lent him the Bosch small electric chainsaw that I've never used. When I was there yesterday, he said he'd used the chainsaw and it was really good, but it was right handed. He is left-handed, although he does do various things, like play musical instruments, right handedly. He was saying that he had started to use the saw but after about 30 minutes he suddenly realised he was holding it with his arms crossed. He then tried holding it correctly in the right handed way, but said it didn't feel as easy or right. I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? -- Bill |
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Bill wrote: My son had to have some big trees cut down at his new house after the recent gales. He has been left with loads of wood, branches etc., and I lent him the Bosch small electric chainsaw that I've never used. When I was there yesterday, he said he'd used the chainsaw and it was really good, but it was right handed. He is left-handed, although he does do various things, like play musical instruments, right handedly. He was saying that he had started to use the saw but after about 30 minutes he suddenly realised he was holding it with his arms crossed. He then tried holding it correctly in the right handed way, but said it didn't feel as easy or right. I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? I'm left-handed too. I have a right-handed chain-saw. It's a royal PITA, but I've learnt to adapt to it, (holding it the way a right-hander would), and most other right-handed things where there's little hope for improvement, or left-handed equivalents. One of the worst is the (cheap, rubbish) jigsaw I have - which would seem at first sight to be usable by either hand, but guess where the exit blast of air from the motor fan goes.. This is typical of most power tools of that ilk - drills, etc. I guess over the years I've become equally bad with either hard at most things - makes some thing easy though - painting, I can stand on a ladder, paint a section with my left-hand, then switch to the right-hand for more coverage without moving the ladder, and I manage small hand tools in either hanrd OK (screwdriver, chisel, etc.) Gordon |
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Bill wrote:
I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? Not really but all chainsaws are designed for the front handle in the left hand and the throttle handle in the right I've not heard southpaws complain about it. AJH |
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Bill explained :
I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? I'm pretty much ambidextrous. As he has learned to tackle some things right handed, could he not learn to use the chainsaw right handed too? -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
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"andrew" wrote in message ... Bill wrote: I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? Not really but all chainsaws are designed for the front handle in the left hand and the throttle handle in the right I've not heard southpaws complain about it. AJH I also am left handed, and it does make using a chain saw somewhat difficult - I find I get lower back pain on one side as I'm reaching over sideways. You are supposed to hold the beast so that the chain is not in line with you, so if a chain breaks it misses you as it flies off. Having just cut up some 3 tons of logs into woodburner sized 8" chucks I feel qualified to comment! AWEM |
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Andrew Mawson wrote:
Having just cut up some 3 tons of logs into woodburner sized 8" chucks I feel qualified to comment! I'm right handed so not qualified to comment but 3 tonnes of logs ( or 7 tank fills whichever came first) was my daily throughput with a saw. Cutting pulp at GBP4/tonne earned me a good wage in the 70s. Bracing the saw against the work piece or the thigh is to control kickback, it's a properly mounted chain catcher as the pulling chain enters the clutch housing that controls a broken chain, spitting teeth when you try and cut some embedded shrapnel goes forward. AJH |
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I'm no expert but isn't this an "ambidextrous" chainsaw?
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...3ECHAINSAW.htm I seem to to remember that Power Devil / Einhell use to badge a more "in-line" electric chainsaw with a wraparound handle like a hedge trimmer. Tyrannosaws and Alligator Saws aren't handed, and aren't they meant to be safer than chainsaws? |
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Bill :
He was saying that he had started to use the saw but after about 30 minutes he suddenly realised he was holding it with his arms crossed. He then tried holding it correctly in the right handed way, but said it didn't feel as easy or right. I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? I'm a left-handed chainsaw user[1] and I've never given the matter any thought. In general I find it better to adapt to the right-handed method for two-handed activities, but obviously I use the left hand for one-handed activities. [Stop that tittering at the back, Right Now.] But sometimes - for instance, with a mouse - it's better to learn to do it right-handed from the outset. [1] That's a left-handed chainsaw-user, not a left-handed-chainsaw user. -- Mike Barnes |
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andrew wrote:
Bill wrote: I said I'd ask about this here. Has anyone any advice? Not really but all chainsaws are designed for the front handle in the left hand and the throttle handle in the right I've not heard southpaws complain about it. AJH My stihl is symmetrical IIRC except for starting.. |
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On Feb 20, 7:02*pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: My stihl is symmetrical IIRC except for starting.. Which model? AFAIK, Stihl don't make (and haven't made for at least 20 years) a symmetrical saw. Top handle saws are not symmetrical. It's significantly more dangerous to use a RH saw left-handed, as it puts your forward arm in a really poor position. |
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On 20/02/2011 17:35, Mike Barnes wrote:
I'm a left-handed chainsaw user[1] and I've never given the matter any thought. In general I find it better to adapt to the right-handed method for two-handed activities, but obviously I use the left hand for one-handed activities. [Stop that tittering at the back, Right Now.] But sometimes - for instance, with a mouse - it's better to learn to do it right-handed from the outset. [1] That's a left-handed chainsaw-user, not a left-handed-chainsaw user. I too am left handed. A chainsaw (not that I use them often!) is one of those things where you just have to learn to do it wrong handed. My mouse, on the other hand :P is on the left of the keyboard. My sons, both right handed as it happens, use it on the left. It's the way it always was when they were small! My wife however insists on moving it. The gripping hand is that we live in a world of right handers. Andy |
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On Feb 20, 5:24*pm, mike wrote:
I'm no expert but isn't this an "ambidextrous" chainsaw? http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...8/Trail/search... No, that's a right-handed saw. The blade is on one side of the chassis. Also the front handle protrudes above and to the left, so that the blade can be oriented either vertically or horizontally for felling. It actually looks like the very common Ningbo (factory) saw that is re- badged by everyone and sometimes sold with an Oregon chain and bar. They're 18" (which is long) and 46cc (which is big). They're usually cheap at £120 and £80 is the best price I've seen on eBay. A very capable saw, with most of the usual features of a real saw. I've got one (Axminster) for smalll stuff, instead of the big Stihl. Downsides? Bit on the heavy side, but not so you'd care. Mostly though the problem is the build quality. They're not designed for long service and they wouldn't survive it. The case will smash if dropped. Small controls will break off if mis-handled. The triggger linkage is usually mis-assembled from the factory and mine has been replaced with a CNCed aluminium copy. The chain tensioner would be nice, except that it will wear out in no time. Spares availability is by a few of the better sellers keeping one on the shelf and stripping it, as required. Otherwise forget it. However chain and bars will swap easily, and sprockets probably will too. So if you want a petrol chainsaw for not a huge amount of work, you won't find much better without spending £160 on a S/H Stihl of similar size. I seem to to remember that Power Devil / Einhell use to badge a more "in-line" electric chainsaw with a wraparound handle like a hedge trimmer. Chainsaws have the chain as close to one side as possible to increase clearance. They don't come with the chain in the centre of the body (not since the '60s). So the handedness is defined by which side the motor doesn't stick out, with the chain cutting towards you on the bottom. You can't make an ambidextrous chainsaw. If you did try, with either a really wrap-around loop handle, or else scissor handles like the Alligator, you'd also need to reverse the motor and put the chain on backwards. |
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 21:20:53 +0000, Andy Champ wrote:
My mouse, on the other hand is on the left of the keyboard. My sons, both right handed as it happens, use it on the left. It's the way it always was when they were small! My wife however insists on moving it. I am right handed, but a while ago I had problems with my shoulder and was advised to use the mouse with my left hand. I've never changed back. Now I can write at the same time as using the mouse...and there's more space to do so. I have one of those L shaped desks, with the large part to the right...it works well. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 20/02/2011 21:20, Andy Champ wrote:
[1] That's a left-handed chainsaw-user, not a left-handed-chainsaw user. I have always been too worried about the lethal properties of a chainsaw ever to use one. I cut up wood with an axe. I too am left handed. A chainsaw (not that I use them often!) is one of those things where you just have to learn to do it wrong handed. I too am left handed but have found that anything that needs both hands is relatively easy to learn right handed but that might explain why my attempts to play a guitar and golf were not particularly successful. ;-) My mouse, on the other hand :P is on the left of the keyboard. My sons, both right handed as it happens, use it on the left. It's the way it always was when they were small! My wife however insists on moving it. For some obscure reason I learnt to use a mouse with my right hand and now find left handed mouse use awkward and I have been known to confuse left and right both under direction and in one particular case myself driving a screw in an awkward position and congratulating myself that I was left handed just before I realised I was using my right hand. The gripping hand is that we live in a world of right handers. About 90% apparently. My particular hate is scissors. Not only are the grips often shaped for the wrong hand using them with the left hand means the slack between the blades is opened up instead of being closed down. |
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On 20/02/2011 23:55, Nick Leverton wrote:
In , Roger wrote: On 20/02/2011 21:20, Andy Champ wrote: My mouse, on the other hand :P is on the left of the keyboard. My sons, both right handed as it happens, use it on the left. It's the way it always was when they were small! My wife however insists on moving it. For some obscure reason I learnt to use a mouse with my right hand and now find left handed mouse use awkward and I have been known to confuse left and right both under direction and in one particular case myself driving a screw in an awkward position and congratulating myself that I was left handed just before I realised I was using my right hand. I'm ambi-moustrous for some reason, I swap hands frequently - helps avoid wrist strain I find too. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 20 Feb,
Andy Champ wrote: My mouse, on the other hand :P is on the left of the keyboard. My sons, both right handed as it happens, use it on the left. It's the way it always was when they were small! My oldest son uses the mouse on either side. He is left handed because both parents are, but seems naturally right handed. His stock in trade at school was swapping the mouse buttons over as he could use a mouse either way. Both parents always use a right handed mouse on the left. Sometimes meeses are asymettrical but we usually manage to find one that isn't. -- B Thumbs Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
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Andy Champ :
On 20/02/2011 17:35, Mike Barnes wrote: [Left handers] But sometimes - for instance, with a mouse - it's better to learn to do it right-handed from the outset. My mouse, on the other hand :P is on the left of the keyboard. My sons, both right handed as it happens, use it on the left. It's the way it always was when they were small! You've done them a favour. Like me, they can write and do other one- handed things without having to let go of the mouse. My wife however insists on moving it. Fair enough as long as she doesn't complain about having to do that. Cue discussion of bog seats... -- Mike Barnes |
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Roger Chapman :
My particular hate is scissors. Not only are the grips often shaped for the wrong hand using them with the left hand means the slack between the blades is opened up instead of being closed down. Ditto, and it's difficult to see the cutting line. But left-handed scissors are just too weird. -- Mike Barnes |
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Nick Leverton wrote: Even right handed people need to cut their right hand fingernails :-) You'd have hoped it wasn't beyond the wit of man to create scissors that close as they cut so can be used either way ! Ah, scissors. Yes, you can get lef-thanded scissors, and left-handers can use right handed scissors in their left-hands - if we're not putting too much pressure on them (the blades will spring apart) and they're nice and shapr, however... Try this, if you're right handed: Take a piece of paper. Draw a mildly wavy line over it from one side to the other. Take a pair of good, sharp right-handed scissors in your left-hand. Cut the paper in two, following the line. You'll find there's a blade in the way of you seeing the line to make an accurate cut. Gordon |
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Gordon Henderson wrote: Try this, if you're right handed: Take a piece of paper. Draw a mildly wavy line over it from one side to the other. Take a pair of good, sharp right-handed scissors in your left-hand. Cut the paper in two, following the line. You'll find there's a blade in the way of you seeing the line to make an accurate cut. Yes, I admit I wasn't thinking through all the issues - thanks. Nick -- Serendipity: http://www.leverton.org/blosxom (last update 29th March 2010) "The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life" -- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996 |
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Thanks for the replies which I have passed on.
My son works with someone who grew up in a logging environment in Scandinavia, so he has someone else to talk to about this. I think what happened was that he just started using the saw with arms crossed without thinking, which is why he found it difficult to adapt to the proper right handed way. He seems to have finished for the time being with the chainsaw and is now working away with the Maul and the triangular log splitter. It works very well, but 25quid for a simple lump of metal seems a lot of money to me. -- Bill |
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Nick Leverton wrote:
In article , Gordon Henderson wrote: Try this, if you're right handed: Take a piece of paper. Draw a mildly wavy line over it from one side to the other. Take a pair of good, sharp right-handed scissors in your left-hand. Cut the paper in two, following the line. You'll find there's a blade in the way of you seeing the line to make an accurate cut. Yes, I admit I wasn't thinking through all the issues - thanks. Nick Since I have never found a pair of scissors that adequately cut paper in a dead straight line, I always uses a steel rule and a fresh blade in the Swann Morton. Having no access to a guillotine these days..:-( Has any one esse put a phone book in an industrial strength metal guillotine? |
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On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:25:57 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley
wrote: the handedness is defined by which side the motor doesn't stick out, Are there any left handed tools? I realise 90% of people are right-handed but if 10% of the global population are left handed, isn't that big enough to make a market? Circular saws and cheap wall chasers have the motor stick out on the left. Are they a nuisance for lethalness? What about our favourite, the angle grinder? Whilst the motor doesn't stick out and you can attach the handle on either side, would that mean that in one hand the disc is spinning away from you but in the other it was spinning towards you? Thanks, Stephen |
Left handed Chainsaw
Stephen wrote:
Are there any left handed tools? I realise 90% of people are right-handed but if 10% of the global population are left handed, isn't that big enough to make a market? Quite so. Just think of the fortune there is to be made in selling left handed screwdrivers, chisels, hammers, pencils, spades, forks, teaspoons, and mugs. |
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"Stephen" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 13:25:57 -0800 (PST), Andy Dingley wrote: the handedness is defined by which side the motor doesn't stick out, Are there any left handed tools? I realise 90% of people are right-handed but if 10% of the global population are left handed, isn't that big enough to make a market? Circular saws and cheap wall chasers have the motor stick out on the left. Are they a nuisance for lethalness? What about our favourite, the angle grinder? Whilst the motor doesn't stick out and you can attach the handle on either side, would that mean that in one hand the disc is spinning away from you but in the other it was spinning towards you? Thanks, Stephen One in seven I believe, not one in ten AWEM |
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On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:12:04 +0000, Stephen
wrote: Are they a nuisance for lethalness? Sorry, my spell checker didn't like "lefthanders" so changed it to "lethalness"! |
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:05:39 +0000, Stephen wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:12:04 +0000, Stephen wrote: Are they a nuisance for lethalness? Sorry, my spell checker didn't like "lefthanders" so changed it to "lethalness"! Ah, a predictive spell-checker! -- Peter. The gods will stay away whilst religions hold sway |
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I know this group hasnt seen a post in awhile but there is a left handed chainsaw made by stihl its a 261 model =)
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What do you mean, not seen a post for a while?
Where you bin? Lots of posts here. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active wrote in message ... I know this group hasnt seen a post in awhile but there is a left handed chainsaw made by stihl its a 261 model =) |
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:46:40 -0000, Brian_Gaff wrote:
What do you mean, not seen a post for a while? Where you bin? Lots of posts here. Spammer prat from google groups who can't even quote part of the orginal message from Feb 2011... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 15/02/2014 15:38, Dave Liquorice wrote:
Spammer prat from google groups who can't even quote part of the orginal message from Feb 2011... I don't see why you call him a spammer. Andy |
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Vir Campestris wrote:
On 15/02/2014 15:38, Dave Liquorice wrote: Spammer prat from google groups who can't even quote part of the orginal message from Feb 2011... I don't see why you call him a spammer. Andy Maybe he meant "spanner"? ;-) Tim |
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IS THAT A LEFT-HANDED SPANNER ??
BAZ "Tim+" wrote in message ... Vir Campestris wrote: On 15/02/2014 15:38, Dave Liquorice wrote: Spammer prat from google groups who can't even quote part of the orginal message from Feb 2011... I don't see why you call him a spammer. Andy Maybe he meant "spanner"? ;-) Tim |
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replying to Bill, Steve Gregory wrote:
It would have helped if somepne, anyone, would have answered the question asked. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...aw-689201-.htm |
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On 01/11/2017 21:14, Steve Gregory wrote:
replying to Bill, Steve Gregory wrote: It would have helped if somepne, anyone, would have answered the question asked. It would help if you could be bothered to quote the question. This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 - If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. |
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It would help if you used a proper usenet system and could see..
That you cannot attach files to anon binary group so we never see the original post, and make sure if its a continuation of a thread, that the question is not years old as others using the Home owners mess of an interface faill to do, probably because the interface with Usenet is so putrid! Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Steve Gregory" m wrote in message ... replying to Bill, Steve Gregory wrote: It would have helped if somepne, anyone, would have answered the question asked. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...aw-689201-.htm |
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