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Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential
paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT |
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Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. Why would fire take too long? That's 1 1/2 reams, so about 2 inches stacked A4. Put the whole stack in a metal container and burn it. Imagine it's a very large barbaque brickette. JGH |
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Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? How confidential, i.e. what sort of info is on it? The shredder's gone unfortunately, Gone temporarily? Then just wait for it to come back. Gone permanently? Tsk, now you know why you had it! Consider getting another. and fire would take ages. Would it? At 5 seconds a sheet that's only an hour. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. Depends how finely you chop it. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. Thinking of building a fence? You could let it soak in a vat of water overnight and then mix it in with the cement for anchoring the posts. There has to be an easier way! Send it to me, and I'll burn it in my fireplace. Enclose £20 fee for my trouble. Send it to any impoverished pensioner to burn it in their fireplace, thus saving them a quid or two's worth of coal. Send it to MI5. They specialise in confidential stuff. Send it to anyone. Use the right courier and they'll lose it, and losing it seems as good a way as any to make it unreadable. |
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Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Post it to yourself via ParcelForce and mark it fragile? -- Adam |
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On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch |
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"Tabby" wrote in message ... Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? Why not put a cover on it entitled - ---- "A new Novel by Jeffrey Archer" Proof Copy ---- Failing that, the solvent in the polish you use on your tinfoil hat might also dissolve ink. Worth a try maybe. Or bleach, white spirit or ammonia. Though not mixed together obviously. The smell should be enough to put put people off, if nothing else. michael adams NT |
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On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. -- Adam |
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On 12/12/2010 19:57, ARWadsworth wrote:
Piers wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. wot, nobody suggested angle grinder yet? |
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"Tabby" wrote in message ... Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Soak the lot in Formaldehyde or burn |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:52:18 -0800 (PST), Tabby
wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Soak it thoroughly in wallpaper paste and squeeze it all together to form a block of papier mache. -- Frank Erskine |
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Invisible Man wrote:
On 12/12/2010 19:57, ARWadsworth wrote: Piers wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. wot, nobody suggested angle grinder yet? Angle grinder is the correct answer -- Adam |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:41:50 -0000, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: Invisible Man wrote: On 12/12/2010 19:57, ARWadsworth wrote: Piers wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. wot, nobody suggested angle grinder yet? Angle grinder is the correct answer Or a Bosch PMF180. -- Frank Erskine |
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Frank Erskine wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 20:41:50 -0000, "ARWadsworth" wrote: Invisible Man wrote: On 12/12/2010 19:57, ARWadsworth wrote: Piers wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. wot, nobody suggested angle grinder yet? Angle grinder is the correct answer Or a Bosch PMF180. Not at that price. (price = lots of money) A chainsaw or chainsaw attachment to a petrol stimmer may work -- Adam |
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, Tabby wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. Personally I'd make a bonfire of it, screwing much of it up so that it burns easily, and poking it around until it's all burned rather than charred. I'd do it in a garden incinerator or other semi-enclosed container (chimenea?) so that charred pieces didn't fly off over the neighbourhood. It'd take about 20 minutes, but more to the point it would be fun. Or what about running the lawnmower over it inside the garage, until it's all reduced to shreds? (Nice question, Tabby!) John |
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On 12/12/2010 18:52, Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! I'd be tempted to put in the bottom of a BBQ, stick a load of briquettes on top, add a couple of lighters and give it an hour or two. |
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On 12/12/2010 18:52, Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Do you have a school nearby? If so give it the secretary and offer a donation to the school funds. Their shredder will reduce it to the tiniest parts you could imagine. Dave |
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"Tabby" wrote in message ... Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT Thermite. (Maybe a new default answer for next year?!?) -- Toby... Remove pants to reply |
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Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. Fire wouldn't take long with a bit of help. What diameter will it roll to? Find a steel metal open topped container, I use an 8" ss flue stuck in the ground I have also used a 45 gallon drum. Put the paper in and light it with a bit of kerosene. Apply a slightly downward tangential air blast. I use both my Earlex vacuum cleaner or a 12V fan from a laptop. With the Earlex it took about 4 hours to incinerate a complete filing cabinet contents a handful at a time, with breaks while it burned. The area surrounding the fire snows flakes of paper ash. A picture of the general layout of a top lit vortex burner is one I made for some young friends: http://energycafe.files.wordpress.co...pg?w=199&h=300 AJH |
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On 12/12/2010 18:52, Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. |
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On 12/12/2010 23:05, Roger Chapman wrote:
On 12/12/2010 18:52, Tabby wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. Yes that's what I do - given up with my domestic shredder as it's too slow, so I store the stuff up and feed it into a garden incinerator chunks at a time (too slow doing it sheets at a time) and stand over it with a garden fork to keep turning over the ash/paper mix - it gets hot enough for the paper sheets to spontaneously combust when exposed to air IYSWIM. Doesn't take long. David |
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"Tabby" wrote in message ... Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Paper as a solid block doesn't burn well - as I realised when I had to dispose of a large number of old paperbacks that no charity shop would take, and since my twice weekly waste collection is already full from both recyclables and other waste, quite a while to dispose of through that way. It was very much more entertaining to pass them through my B&D garden waste shredder before incineration - although much of the book is rendered to dust rather than paper chips... |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On 12/12/2010 18:52, Tabby wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Do you have a school nearby? If so give it the secretary and offer a donation to the school funds. Their shredder will reduce it to the tiniest parts you could imagine. Once they get around to it. Before then, it'll get lost and every kid in the school will have one of the pages, ready to put the best bits onto facebook. It needs to be unreadable before it leaves the house. -- Bartc |
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On Dec 12, 8:24*pm, Frank Erskine
wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:52:18 -0800 (PST), Tabby wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Soak it thoroughly in wallpaper paste and squeeze it all together to form a block of papier mache. I think thats what I'll do, coarse chopping it all first. Thank you. Wonder if there's anything I can add to the paste to haste destruction, mould, horribility or something. NT |
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Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? Send it to Julian Assange. |
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On 12/12/2010 19:57, ARWadsworth wrote: Piers wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. wot, nobody suggested angle grinder yet? Bugger :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:52:18 -0800 (PST) Tabby wrote :
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. Before emigrating I had a pile of old orders and invoices several feet high (I should have culled them periodically, I know). A mobile shredding firm sent out their lorry and did the lot for £70 - I actually left them to it, but they would have let me watch had I wanted to. -- Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on' Melbourne, Australia www.superbeam.co.uk www.eurobeam.co.uk www.greentram.com |
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Bill wrote:
"Tabby" wrote in message ... Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Paper as a solid block doesn't burn well - as I realised when I had to dispose of a large number of old paperbacks that no charity shop would take, Nudge nudge, wink wink... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT Confetti shredder (small bits instead of strips) |
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:42:58 -0800 (PST), Tabby
wrote: On Dec 12, 8:24*pm, Frank Erskine wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:52:18 -0800 (PST), Tabby wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Soak it thoroughly in wallpaper paste and squeeze it all together to form a block of papier mache. I think thats what I'll do, coarse chopping it all first. Thank you. Wonder if there's anything I can add to the paste to haste destruction, mould, horribility or something. WD-40. -- Frank Erskine |
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On 2010-12-12 19:57:30 +0000, ARWadsworth said:
Piers Finlayson wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. Frankly, everybody needs some thermite. |
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"Roger Chapman" wrote in message ... Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. It burns even quicker if you shred it first. ;-) |
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Tabby wrote:
Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT I find a ride on lawnmower makes a passable shredder. |
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On 12/12/2010 19:57, ARWadsworth wrote: Piers wrote: On 2010-12-12 18:52:18 +0000, Tabby said: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! NT BBQ + blow torch You would need thermite. wot, nobody suggested angle grinder yet? Good idea. Won't work on a single sheet, but ideal for a fat block. As is a table saw or a bandsaw. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Tony Bryer saying something like: Before emigrating I had a pile of old orders and invoices several feet high (I should have culled them periodically, I know). A mobile shredding firm sent out their lorry and did the lot for £70 - I actually left them to it, but they would have let me watch had I wanted to. What a brilliant wheeze. Charge the customer for a service and when back at the depot, turn the waste material into a fuel. |
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"Tabby" wrote Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Bury it in the compost heap. Then next year it is transformed into soil conditioner. OK, it's not instant destruction by any stretch, but at least it's put to some use. Phil |
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On 13/12/2010 10:28, dennis@home wrote:
"Roger Chapman" wrote in message ... Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. It burns even quicker if you shred it first. ;-) Depends what sort of shredder you have. Paper in thin ribbons burns very well but according to a friend of mine a secure shredder that cross cuts the paper into little squares produces scrap that is almost as hard to burn as a solid pile of paper. |
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On 2010-12-12, Roger Chapman wrote:
On 12/12/2010 18:52, Tabby wrote: Whats the easiest way to render about 700 pages of confidential paperwork unreadable? The shredder's gone unfortunately, and fire would take ages. I've got an electric cutter, but chopped paper is still legible. I'm half tempted to pulp it, but would really rather avoid the work. There has to be an easier way! Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. When sodium chlorate weedkiller used to be supplied uncontaminated, paper soaked in a solution and dried out would burn /very/ quickly. -- Jón Fairbairn http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2010-09-14) |
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Jón Fairbairn wrote:
On 2010-12-12, Roger Chapman wrote: Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. When sodium chlorate weedkiller used to be supplied uncontaminated, paper soaked in a solution and dried out would burn /very/ quickly. Ah, the good old days! I remember making rockets with the stuff when I was at school. Teachers were not amused. Is there anything one can do to remove the contaminants? |
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:39:58 +0000, Ronald Raygun
wrote: Jón Fairbairn wrote: On 2010-12-12, Roger Chapman wrote: Paper as a solid block doesn't burn easily but crunch it up so the air can get to it and it burns very easily. When sodium chlorate weedkiller used to be supplied uncontaminated, paper soaked in a solution and dried out would burn /very/ quickly. Ah, the good old days! I remember making rockets with the stuff when I was at school. Teachers were not amused. Is there anything one can do to remove the contaminants? Burn it? Sodium Chlorate as a weed killer is banned in Europe now so if you have any you need to keep quiet about it , Making Rockets and Bombs from it goes against this. Kids today can hardly do anything dangerous,poor things. G.Harman |
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On Dec 14, 6:27*pm, wrote:
Kids today can hardly do anything dangerous,poor things. They seem to manage OK for knives & handguns. |
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