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OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?

I'm thinking purely in terms of the multiple choc-bloc styles ones here;
amount of room inside for cabling, hooking up lots of connections to the
same point, are cable clamps included or not, that sort of thing.

I know they're only a few quid, but there's a choice of half a dozen at
the local merchants, so wondered if the real-world could tell me
something that a price label on the shelf couldn't. It may be "the
standard", but the Honeywell box seems tiny...


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OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?



Wago seem to be getting a good reputation:
http://www.wagobox.com/shop
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On Nov 14, 3:58*pm, Peter B wrote:
OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?


Wago.

Especially if you're switching a bunch of lights and you need to
common five or six wires together.

TLC do handy mixed starter boxes.
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Peter B wrote:

OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?



Wago seem to be getting a good reputation:
http://www.wagobox.com/shop


Wago connectors are the absolute mutts nuts IMO.


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Peter B wrote:
OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?

I'm thinking purely in terms of the multiple choc-bloc styles ones
here; amount of room inside for cabling, hooking up lots of
connections to the same point, are cable clamps included or not, that
sort of thing.
I know they're only a few quid, but there's a choice of half a dozen
at the local merchants, so wondered if the real-world could tell me
something that a price label on the shelf couldn't. It may be "the
standard", but the Honeywell box seems tiny...


They are all pretty similar. The Honeywell one only has a clamp for the
supply cable, others (I cannot remember which) do have clamps for all the
cables.

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On 14/11/10 16:08, A.Lee wrote:
Peter wrote:

OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?



Wago seem to be getting a good reputation:
http://www.wagobox.com/shop


I got a sample pack - very good they seem too. Sod terminal strip.

Now, like the OP, I need to find a convenient box for them.

I got a Wagobox and a Wiska box (100-mumble mm).

The Wago is a neat idea but I find the fact the cables only come out of
one end limiting.

The 100mm Wiska wastes a ton of space inside with moulded mountings for
terminals and crap but is otherwise a very neat idea.

Both would be find where you want 3-4 cables jointed - but if you were
using it as a star point for a complicated lighting circuit (LoopIn,
LoopOut, 2 switch drops and a couple of lamps, neither would be any use IMO.

One of the bigger Wiska's might be OK or just a plain box that you drill
a few 20mm holes in.

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On 14/11/2010 16:08, A.Lee wrote:

OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?


Wago seem to be getting a good reputation:
http://www.wagobox.com/shop


Ahh right, my fault for not being clearer now I've just read it back;
I'm talking about boxes for use as the central heating wiring centre,
the 10+ terminal ones.

Having said that, those Wagos do look rather spangly...

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On 14/11/10 21:05, Peter B wrote:
On 14/11/2010 16:08, A.Lee wrote:

OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?


Wago seem to be getting a good reputation:
http://www.wagobox.com/shop


Ahh right, my fault for not being clearer now I've just read it back;
I'm talking about boxes for use as the central heating wiring centre,
the 10+ terminal ones.

Having said that, those Wagos do look rather spangly...


If you read the Wago web site, I do believe it states that those
terminals (any of the 3 main Wago types) do NOT need to be fixed down,
and have a very good (dry) IP rating - ie no possibility of shorts
between flapping terminals).

So that does nicely reduce the problem to one of "which box"?

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Ahh right, my fault for not being clearer now I've just read it back;
I'm talking about boxes for use as the central heating wiring centre,
the 10+ terminal ones.


Mine is this, and if that's what you mean, you are right - it is small
for all the cables that will eventually be crammed in there.

Honeywell Sundial Plan Wiring Centre
http://www.uk-plumbing.com/brochure/honeywell/WiringCentre4200.pdf

It's currently been hiding on the shelf uninstalled for a year now, me
being a wimp to going outside to the cold garage to tidy up the choc
block bare naked rats nest that's out there, while not risking the house
being without heating while doing it.

I've even had alternative plans of sticking a bit of DIN rail and clipon
terminals inside a suitable enclosure, where the advantage would be the
wiring arrangement would be more visible to fault-finding. The honeywell
wiring centre hides it all on the reverse of the PCB which is glued into
the ABS box. And that PCB is made of SRBP and outside is sometimes damp...

So I procrastinate. Project will be a done job in 2012 ...

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Peter B wrote:

I'm thinking purely in terms of the multiple choc-bloc styles ones here;
amount of room inside for cabling, hooking up lots of connections to the
same point, are cable clamps included or not, that sort of thing.


I *think* the larger of these is the one I fitted, difficult to tell
from the photo as it doesn't show internals, it had cable clamps, plenty
of ways, and space for a relay I needed to control the boiler.

http://www.heatingcontrolsonline.co.uk/acl-drayton-invensys-lifestyle-lwc1-wiring-centre-p-237.html



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On 14/11/2010 16:15, Andy Dingley wrote:

OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?


Wago.

Especially if you're switching a bunch of lights and you need to
common five or six wires together.


Just wanted to follow-up on everyone's comments from a few weeks ago.

I ordered some Wago pushwire connectors and boxes out of idle curiosity
(http://www.connexbox.com) and got to use a couple at the weekend,
replacing a horrible nest of JBs under the floorboards that had the
lights dimming if you moved them.

Net result - I'm converted. Granted, they're probably not the answer to
every problem, but they were to this one.

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Peter B wrote:
On 14/11/2010 16:15, Andy Dingley wrote:

OK, so not exactly the most fascinating subject, but are they the
subject of fervered religious views as to whether one is better than
another, or does no-one really give two figs?


Wago.

Especially if you're switching a bunch of lights and you need to
common five or six wires together.


Just wanted to follow-up on everyone's comments from a few weeks ago.

I ordered some Wago pushwire connectors and boxes out of idle
curiosity (http://www.connexbox.com) and got to use a couple at the
weekend, replacing a horrible nest of JBs under the floorboards that
had the lights dimming if you moved them.

Net result - I'm converted. Granted, they're probably not the answer
to every problem, but they were to this one.


That's another convert. We will soon have enough converts to make a cult:-)

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