I've just had two Marshall combos from the music department of a local
school, in for repair. Both had been subjected to some kind of electrical
safety check fairly recently, and both had a large sticker on them that
trumpeted "PASS". But where had the moron that did the tests stuck them ? On
the front panel, that's where. One of them completely covered the recessed
power on indicator and its legend, and the other covered the legend for two
of the control pots. I can perhaps, just about, understand if such a label
had been stuck on the front of a portable air conditioner unit or a toaster
or computer tower or something, but an amplifier with controls and
indicators that need to be seen clearly ? What was the bloke thinking when
he did it ? Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors
all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain cells to
keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ? Common sense ?
What's that ...?

Arfa

Arfa Daily wrote:

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain cells to
keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ? Common
sense ? What's that ...?

I think its because the H&S mantra is so all pervading that the PASS
sticker must not only be there but IT MUST BE SEEN!

I don't think people are necessarily stupid but I do think that worrying
about rules & regs actually contracts the mind and prevents common sense.

--
Scott

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

"Arfa Daily" wrote in message
...
I've just had two Marshall combos from the music department of a
local
school, in for repair. Both had been subjected to some kind of
electrical
safety check fairly recently, and both had a large sticker on them
that
trumpeted "PASS". But where had the moron that did the tests stuck
them ? On
the front panel, that's where. One of them completely covered the
recessed
power on indicator and its legend, and the other covered the legend
for two
of the control pots. I can perhaps, just about, understand if such a
label
had been stuck on the front of a portable air conditioner unit or a
toaster
or computer tower or something, but an amplifier with controls and
indicators that need to be seen clearly ? What was the bloke
thinking when
he did it ? Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer
monitors
all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their
screens ?

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain
cells to
keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ? Common
sense ?
What's that ...?

Arfa


The DIY sheds are full of things where the stores barcode gets stuck
over the instructions.

AWEM

On 28/09/10 13:19, Scott M wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain cells
to keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ?
Common sense ? What's that ...?

I think its because the H&S mantra is so all pervading that the PASS
sticker must not only be there but IT MUST BE SEEN!

I don't think people are necessarily stupid but I do think that worrying
about rules & regs actually contracts the mind and prevents common sense.


Which came first:

Being hard of thinking

or

Needing an idiot's guide to everything?

???

--
Tim Watts

"Arfa Daily" wrote in message
...
I've just had two Marshall combos from the music department of a local
school, in for repair. Both had been subjected to some kind of electrical
safety check fairly recently, and both had a large sticker on them that
trumpeted "PASS". But where had the moron that did the tests stuck them ?
On the front panel, that's where. One of them completely covered the
recessed power on indicator and its legend, and the other covered the
legend for two of the control pots. I can perhaps, just about, understand
if such a label had been stuck on the front of a portable air conditioner
unit or a toaster or computer tower or something, but an amplifier with
controls and indicators that need to be seen clearly ? What was the bloke
thinking when he did it ? Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and
computer monitors all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle
of their screens ?

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain cells to
keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ? Common sense
? What's that ...?

Arfa

We had someone PAT test everything in our office, a lot of the stickers were
placed on the data plate of the equpment, right over the serial
number/service tags...

...Not impressed...

Aldi fairly recently had polarised sunglasses. They were in little
sealed packets with dangly labels saying that there were different
strengths and that each pair was marked individually. I thought "I'll
get a strong absorption pair".

After a good few minutes of looking at several pairs trying to find the
marked strength, including the one or two previously opened by
inquisitive lurkers, I found myself a nice young shelf stacker to
assist.

Together we eventually discovered that the strengths were marked on the
inside of the folded side arms. Again together, we opened about 20
packets before we found one of the high strength pairs.

The sunglasses are now in my car and very good they are, too. Two days
later I was in Aldi again. All of the huge pile of sunglasses had
disappeared.

I expect they will all appear in the spring in different packaging.
--
Bill

Arfa Daily wrote:
I've just had two Marshall combos from the music department of a local
school, in for repair. Both had been subjected to some kind of
electrical safety check fairly recently, and both had a large sticker on
them that trumpeted "PASS". But where had the moron that did the tests
stuck them ? On the front panel, that's where. One of them completely
covered the recessed power on indicator and its legend, and the other
covered the legend for two of the control pots. I can perhaps, just
about, understand if such a label had been stuck on the front of a
portable air conditioner unit or a toaster or computer tower or
something, but an amplifier with controls and indicators that need to be
seen clearly ? What was the bloke thinking when he did it ? Do you think
that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors all over this school,
with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain cells to
keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ? Common
sense ? What's that ...?

Arfa

I never found a Marshall Valve combo that worked for more than ten
minutes without a completely illegal line fuse.


100mA fuses and 110dB vibration levels just don't mix..:-)

When I was developing equipment,. I had one of these in almost permanent
use for comparison purposes. I replaced it with 1/2A after the first
three blows. Apparently tinfoil was the normal roadie solution.

It's not restricted to Pat.
I sent a multimeter for NAMAS acredited calibration to have it
returned with the security seal over the battery compartment lid.

John

On 28 Sep, 14:15, John wrote:
It's not restricted to Pat.
I sent a multimeter for NAMAS acredited calibration to have it
returned with the security seal over the battery compartment lid.

John

Done on purpose, as changing the battery gives you access inside... Or
maybe alters the calibration?

On 28 Sep, 15:09, Phil wrote:
On 28 Sep, 14:15, John wrote:

It's not restricted to Pat.
I sent a multimeter for NAMAS acredited calibration to have it
returned with the security seal over the battery compartment lid.

John

Done on purpose, as changing the battery gives you access inside... Or
maybe alters the calibration?

The battery compartment gave no access to anywhere else.
Changing the battery wouldn't affect calibration. It was a standard
PP3.
I sent it back and they put a new sticker in a different place.
Just a numpty at the calibration house.

John

On 28 Sep,
John wrote:

It's not restricted to Pat.
I sent a multimeter for NAMAS acredited calibration to have it
returned with the security seal over the battery compartment lid.

A friend sent off an oscilliscope for repair. It came back with calibration
sticker and certificate, but still didn't work. how they calibrated it is
anyone's guess.

--
B Thumbs
Change lycos to yahoo to reply

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:44:21 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:

snip
Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors
all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

Can't blame HSE - they particularly warn about this:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/july.htm

:-)

--
Geo

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:43:16 +0100, Geo wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:44:21 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:

snip
Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors
all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

Can't blame HSE - they particularly warn about this:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/july.htm

:-)

No, it's not HSE's fault. It's the "just in case" / "better be sure"
brigade who don't have the skills to assess what a risk is, yet somehow
have got themselves into a position where they get to make the
decision (probably because no-one else wanted the job). So they
presume that anything which is possible is therefore a "risk"
in the literal meaning and therefore must be fixed/mitigated/avoided
no matter the chance of it happening and no matter the inconvenience
it causes.
Telling them that the law doesn't require it will make no difference
as they'll still come up with the "better be sure" universal
response.


--
http://www.thisreallyismyhost.99k.or...2411631660.php

In message , Arfa Daily
writes
I've just had two Marshall combos from the music department of a local
school, in for repair. Both had been subjected to some kind of
electrical safety check fairly recently, and both had a large sticker
on them that trumpeted "PASS". But where had the moron that did the
tests stuck them ? On the front panel, that's where. One of them
completely covered the recessed power on indicator and its legend, and
the other covered the legend for two of the control pots. I can
perhaps, just about, understand if such a label had been stuck on the
front of a portable air conditioner unit or a toaster or computer
tower or something, but an amplifier with controls and indicators that
need to be seen clearly ? What was the bloke thinking when he did it ?
Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors all
over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

Is it just in this country that people barely have enough brain cells
to keep their heart ticking now, or is it a world-wide problem ? Common
sense ? What's that ...?

Arfa


Amongst other things I repair portable radios, walkie talkies. We get
quite a few back with the reported fault of "low transmit audio" the
reason being that they have stuck a label with the users name over the
little hole marked "mic" Do people not have common sense any more? Do
they not understand how even simple things work? Do they not read the
manual? NO they don't.........
--
Bill

On 28 Sep, 16:42, pete wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:43:16 +0100, Geo wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:44:21 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:

snip
Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors
all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

Can't blame HSE - they particularly warn about this:-
http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/july.htm

:-)

No, it's not HSE's fault. It's the "just in case" / "better be sure"
brigade who don't have the skills to assess what a risk is, yet somehow
have got themselves into a position where they get to make the
decision (probably because no-one else wanted the job). So they
presume that anything which is possible is therefore a "risk"
in the literal meaning and therefore must be fixed/mitigated/avoided
no matter the chance of it happening and no matter the inconvenience
it causes.
Telling them that the law doesn't require it will make no difference
as they'll still come up with the "better be sure" universal
response.

And even if the internal people kow that, the insurance company will
say that everything must be tested by a qualified PAT test person.
BTDTGTTS.

Chris

cutWhen I was developing equipment,. I had one of these in almost permanent
use for comparison purposes. I replaced it with 1/2A after the first
three blows. Apparently tinfoil was the normal roadie solution.

Or the silver foil from the inside of 10 Woodbines.

CJ

On 28 Sep, 12:44, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
Do you think that maybe there are TV sets and computer monitors
all over this school, with "PASS" stickers in the middle of their screens ?

My gf haunts charity shops in her search for obscure Scandinavian
pottery. A favourite trick of the shops is to place the price sticker
neatly on the base, right over the maker's mark.

At the same time I'll be hunting for books. The rarer it is, the more
chance they've stuck a price sticker into the middle of the cover,
using cheap stickers that seem to use epoxy as an adhesive. If you
raise this with them, make sure that you're holding the book rather
than them - otherwise a clawed talon will reach straight out and rip
the sticker clean off before you can stop them, probably taking a
chunk of the cover with it.

In message
,
John writes
It's not restricted to Pat.
I sent a multimeter for NAMAS acredited calibration to have it
returned with the security seal over the battery compartment lid.
Yeah, I've had that on more than one occasion too..

John

--
Clint Sharp