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Lidl have this compressor
http://lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_...ndex_13876.htm on offer at £80 next Thursday. Is it likely to be any good? [It's quite a lot cheaper than a (roughly) equivalent jobbie from the likes of Machine Mart]. I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. How many of you own one? How useful is it - particularly one of this size? -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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![]() "Roger Mills" wrote in message ... snip : : I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks : like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. : Before anyone can answer your questions you need to tell us what you intend to do with the compressor, inflating your car tyres, using a nail gun or repainting a car or house all need different spec's of compressors... -- Regards, Jerry. |
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On 10/09/2010 11:54, Jerry wrote:
"Roger wrote in message ... snip : : I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks : like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. : Before anyone can answer your questions you need to tell us what you intend to do with the compressor, inflating your car tyres, using a nail gun or repainting a car or house all need different spec's of compressors... The truth is that I don't really know! It may be the case of a solution looking for a problem - or a case of let's get one and see what I can do with it! Hence my request for other people's experiences. I guess that primarily I would use it for inflating tyres and blowing dirt off things. I might get attachments such as a nail gun and/or impact driver - and possibly sand blaster. I don't expect to do much - if any - paint spraying. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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![]() "Roger Mills" wrote in message ... : On 10/09/2010 11:54, Jerry wrote: : "Roger wrote in message : ... : : snip : : : : I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this : looks : : like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. : : : : Before anyone can answer your questions you need to tell us what : you intend to do with the compressor, inflating your car tyres, : using a nail gun or repainting a car or house all need different : spec's of compressors... : : : The truth is that I don't really know! It may be the case of a solution : looking for a problem - or a case of let's get one and see what I can do : with it! Hence my request for other people's experiences. : : I guess that primarily I would use it for inflating tyres and blowing : dirt off things. I might get attachments such as a nail gun and/or : impact driver - and possibly sand blaster. I don't expect to do much - : if any - paint spraying. The Lidil compressor should be fine for the first three uses (providing that you are not planning to 'nail for Britain' in a house building competition. Both impact and most certainly sand blasting could be a problem if used constantly as it doesn't have a very large (24lt) tank capacity, and thus you would be more reliant on the displacement of the actual compressor (the Air Displacement figure). That said, for the price, this unit should be good to get started if used sensibly. Always wear eye protection is using a compressed air supply for blowing dirt off/out of things, the average elf and safety inspector frowns on such use for understandable reasons! -- Regards, Jerry. |
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![]() "Jerry" wrote in message ... .. Always wear eye protection is using a compressed air supply for blowing dirt off/out of things, the average elf and safety inspector frowns on such use for understandable reasons! -- Neighbor has a large compressor (twin cylinder job) recently had it running so his 5yr old son could play with air hose. No safety kit, not even any shoes on. So he was happily blasting away stones, sand, water, cement dust etc. from his not yet laid drive .... does make you wonder how risky that is. |
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![]() "Rick Hughes" wrote in message ... : : "Jerry" wrote in message : ... : . Always wear eye : protection is using a compressed air supply for blowing dirt : off/out of things, the average elf and safety inspector frowns on : such use for understandable reasons! : -- : : : Neighbor has a large compressor (twin cylinder job) recently had it running : so his 5yr old son could play with air hose. : No safety kit, not even any shoes on. : : So he was happily blasting away stones, sand, water, cement dust etc. from : his not yet laid drive .... does make you wonder how risky that is. : Proves how stupid some parents are, not only is there a risk from flying grit etc. but the very real danger that such a young kid could have ended up inflating parts of his own body - should the wrong sort of blower-gun be in use... -- Regards, Jerry. |
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On 10/09/2010 14:34, Roger Mills wrote:
On 10/09/2010 11:54, Jerry wrote: "Roger wrote in message ... snip : : I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks : like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. : Before anyone can answer your questions you need to tell us what you intend to do with the compressor, inflating your car tyres, using a nail gun or repainting a car or house all need different spec's of compressors... The truth is that I don't really know! It may be the case of a solution looking for a problem - or a case of let's get one and see what I can do with it! Hence my request for other people's experiences. I guess that primarily I would use it for inflating tyres and blowing dirt off things. I love the idea of buying one of these for "blowing the dirt off things"... I fear SWMBO might require a little more justification than that... ;-) David |
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Lobster wrote:
I love the idea of buying one of these for "blowing the dirt off things"... I fear SWMBO might require a little more justification than that... ;-) One of the more demanding uses for a compressor is to use an air/water gun for high pressure car washing. Compared to the Kärcher type of electric pressure washers these guns are cheap and effective. They need a lot of air though, I can only use the one I bought for washing the tractor with the largest compressor that I own. I note that the prices of all these things have rocketed recently. My diesel compressor cost about £400. Current versions are around £1600. I presume this is the rising cost of steel and the falling value of the pound at work. |
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Jerry wrote:
Before anyone can answer your questions you need to tell us what you intend to do with the compressor, inflating your car tyres, using a nail gun or repainting a car or house all need different spec's of compressors... Err no. That's balls. Simply size the compressor to the tool that makes the greatest demand for air. Stating that the tools all need different specs of compressors is utter crap. As usual from you. |
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In message , Steve Firth
writes Jerry wrote: Before anyone can answer your questions you need to tell us what you intend to do with the compressor, inflating your car tyres, using a nail gun or repainting a car or house all need different spec's of compressors... Err no. That's balls. Simply size the compressor to the tool that makes the greatest demand for air. Stating that the tools all need different specs of compressors is utter crap. Gentlemen please! Most workshop compressors do not have wheels so a mini portable may have uses in places hard to access. I'm not sure if the diesel, road drill type, compressor is oil free which might be an issue for spraying, etc. I haven't read the full thread but nobody has mentioned insurance and annual pressure vessel testing. D-I-Yers may escape but any commercial operation is vulnerable to the man with the clip board. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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![]() "Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... Most workshop compressors do not have wheels so a mini portable may have uses in places hard to access. I'm not sure if the diesel, road drill type, compressor is oil free which might be an issue for spraying, etc. Don't you need a coalescing (god knows if that's spelt correctly!) filter to remove the water and that should remove the oil too. |
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On 12 Sep, 22:04, "dennis@home" wrote:
"Tim Lamb" wrote in message ... Most workshop compressors do not have wheels so a mini portable may have uses in places hard to access. I'm not sure if the diesel, road drill type, compressor is oil free which might be an issue for spraying, etc. Don't you need a coalescing (god knows if that's spelt correctly!) *filter to remove the water and that should remove the oil too. Filter , usually combined with regulator and sometimes lubricator for air line tools in constant use http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com...spx-item-30878 http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...pment-air-hose air chisel is heck of lot lighter to handle than an SDS on tiles, air drill ditto for repetitive light drilling. Forget DA sanders on small compressors. Cheers Adam |
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![]() How many of you own one? How useful is it - particularly one of this size? I've got a Bostitch of about the same size. It's main use day-to-day is as a blow-off gun for quickly clearing dust and debris away from a work area, but I also use it to drive a nailer and for occasional air- brush use. dan. |
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On Sep 10, 11:41*am, Roger Mills wrote:
Lidl have this compressorhttp://lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_13876.htmon offer at £80 next Thursday. Is it likely to be any good? [It's quite a lot cheaper than a (roughly) equivalent jobbie from the likes of Machine Mart]. I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. How many of you own one? How useful is it - particularly one of this size? With compressors they can never have too much free air delivery or too big a receiver :-). I've just bought a new one -- the biggest I could get that would be on wheels and would run off a 13 amp socket. 200 litre receiver and huge starting capacitors and an automatic decompressor to allow an easy start. And belt driven. As has been pointed out to you, small compressors don't have much puff. And direct-drive oilless compressors don't tend to last as long. However, there are some jobs for which being able to bring the compressor to the job is very important and providing the tool is small and of low consumption, they'll do fine for occasional use. Pneumatic nailers and (especially) staplers are brilliant tools. As someone else has pointed out, air tools are delightful to handle, cheap and generally quite well made. With no electric motor they're compact and reliable. The Lidl compressor is probably a good enough buy if you regard it as a "taster" to see whether air tools are for you. John MacLeod |
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Roger Mills wrote:
Lidl have this compressor http://lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_...ndex_13876.htm on offer at £80 next Thursday. Is it likely to be any good? [It's quite a lot cheaper than a (roughly) equivalent jobbie from the likes of Machine Mart]. I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. How many of you own one? How useful is it - particularly one of this size? I have a similar SF one purchased about 8 years ago, very useful indeed. Brad nailer is great for tacking together all sorts when glueing, especially good on small mouldings. Blowgun as others have said for clearing out power tool vents etc. Also used for airbeds, pools etc. Tyre inflator really useful, particularly when both daughters & cars were at home. Never used the spraygun. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 10/09/10 11:41, Roger Mills wrote:
Lidl have this compressor http://lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_...ndex_13876.htm on offer at £80 next Thursday. Anyone else notice the box at the left of the page: "Similar Items - Men’s Socks" !!! |
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Roger Mills wrote:
I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. On a related note, what kind of compressor would be useful for the times when you want some air to blow away dirt, but can't do it yourself because you can't focus your puff enough or don't want to spray saliva all over the workpiece? Would a cheap tyre compressor do, or are those strictly for tyre inflating? Thanks Theo |
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Theo Markettos wrote:
Roger Mills wrote: I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. On a related note, what kind of compressor would be useful for the times when you want some air to blow away dirt, but can't do it yourself because you can't focus your puff enough or don't want to spray saliva all over the workpiece? Would a cheap tyre compressor do, or are those strictly for tyre inflating? You need at least a tank to hold pressure. Probably the cheap airbrush type is a minimum, or use a can of compressed something or other. Thanks Theo |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:18:58 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Would a cheap tyre compressor do, or are those strictly for tyre inflating? Low volume, high pressure. You can hardly feel the draft froma tyre inflator... You need at least a tank to hold pressure. It's called a tyre. Still not convinced I need a compressor but a work around for blowing needs would be a bit of tube with a trigger nozzle one end and tyre connector the other. I have a heavy duty tyre inflator to fill the tyre. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 15/09/2010 15:13, Theo Markettos wrote:
Roger wrote: I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. On a related note, what kind of compressor would be useful for the times when you want some air to blow away dirt, but can't do it yourself because you can't focus your puff enough or don't want to spray saliva all over the workpiece? Would a cheap tyre compressor do, or are those strictly for tyre inflating? Thanks Theo For small jobs like blowing the dust out of a computer I use one of these: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=45631 If by cheap tyre compressor you mean the small 12v jobbies that work from a car's cigar lighter socket, they wouldn't be very much use because they can produce a high pressure but very little flow - whereas you need a lot of flow but not much pressure for blowing dirt away. The optional Air Tool Set (£9.99) on offer at Lidl alongside the compressor has a tyre inflator gun and also a separate gun with various different nozzles - so you should be able to choose the most appropriate nozzle for each 'blow out' job. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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Theo Markettos wrote:
Roger Mills wrote: I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. On a related note, what kind of compressor would be useful for the times when you want some air to blow away dirt, but can't do it yourself because you can't focus your puff enough or don't want to spray saliva all over the workpiece? Would a cheap tyre compressor do, or are those strictly for tyre inflating? You should be careful about using a "garage" compressor for cleaning the internals of computers. Unless you have suitable processing, what you think of as pure compressed air is potentially a mist of oil, water vapour and dust. Do you really want to be spraying this over your silicon chips? If you're planning to clean a lot of computers, you might consider a compressor which is designed for an air brush, e.g.: http://www.everythingairbrush.com/ac...AS_Series.html Note the "oil free, water trap and air filter" bit. |
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On 10 Sep, 11:48, Huge wrote:
How useful is it Very. Another one of those "how did I manage without this" tools. Mine looks very similar to the Lidl one. what have you done/managed to do/failed to do with it? Cheers Jim K |
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On 10 Sep 2010 10:48:33 GMT, Huge wrote:
On 2010-09-10, Roger Mills wrote: Lidl have this compressor http://lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/lidl_...ndex_13876.htm on offer at £80 next Thursday. Is it likely to be any good? [It's quite a lot cheaper than a (roughly) equivalent jobbie from the likes of Machine Mart]. I've often toyed with the idea of having a compressor - so this looks like a possible opportunity to 'stick my toe in the water'. How many of you own one? An air compressor? Me. And me (4 actually). I've a 50l / 15cfm jobby when I really need some air and don't mind the noise and a Bambi / Wolf 25l / 2cfm hybrid that is virtually silent when I need a bit of air and want it without the need for earplugs (or it's late). Then I have the lightweight oil-free portable (240V) jobby that is handy for blowing the dust out of stuff and tire inflation and a similar pump on a 25l reservoir that the daughter uses up in Scotland, mainly for the blowgun and tyre inflator. Very handy when used with a rattle gun, air gun and tyre inflator. Cheers, T i m |
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Huge wrote:
How many of you own one? An air compressor? Me. AOL How useful is it Very. AOL I now have three compressors. A large diesel-powered one for use on the farm, it's a 15cfm unit and it's essential for powering farm tools. I also have a compressor like the Lidl unit which I bought for use at home because I realised how much I missed using the air tools once I didn't have access to a compressor. I don't know why, but I find my air drill and air chisel to be more "handy" than electric versions of the same tools. |
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