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Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something about
it. My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in
2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the white for
the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat dependent on what SWMBO
picks colourwise
3. Does everyone still use rollers or are paint pads the way to do it
nowdays

Cheers

Jim




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On Jun 22, 8:26*pm, "JimM" wrote:
Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something about
it. *My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in


filler doesnt need sanding if you fill it smooth to begin with.
Washing is optional.


2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the white for
the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat dependent on what SWMBO
picks colourwise


Dulux, Leyland.


3. Does everyone still use rollers or are paint pads the way to do it
nowdays

Cheers

Jim


Rollers cover everything with paint mist. A 5" brush works well
enough.


NT
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On 22 June, 20:26, "JimM" wrote:
Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something about
it. *My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in
2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the white for
the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat dependent on what SWMBO
picks colourwise
3. Does everyone still use rollers or are paint pads the way to do it
nowdays

Cheers

Jim


Gloss before emulsion. You can wipe emulsion off gloss, but not gloss
off emulsion.
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After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something about
it. My plan of attack is to


Paint pads are used here.

Gloss before emulsion, as emulsion is easy to remove from gloss, not
vice versa. (At least with real gloss, not that watered ****e)
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:26:40 +0100, "JimM" wrote:

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something
about
it. My plan of attack is to


Paint pads are used here.

Gloss before emulsion, as emulsion is easy to remove from gloss, not
vice versa. (At least with real gloss, not that watered ****e)


Use Matt Emulsion - never Silk




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JimM wrote:
Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard
yellow colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do
something about it. My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in


Nope. Gloss woodwork before you emulsion.

2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the white
for the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat dependent on
what SWMBO picks colourwise


Go for a 'one coat' or 'once' matt emulsion. Don't argue, just do it :-)

3. Does everyone still use rollers or are paint pads the way to do it
nowdays


Rollers. Buy the el cheapo B&Q jobbies & bin them afterwards.


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JimM wrote:
Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard
yellow colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do
something about it. My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in


Nope. Gloss woodwork before you emulsion.

2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the white
for the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat dependent on
what SWMBO picks colourwise


Go for a 'one coat' or 'once' matt emulsion. Don't argue, just do it :-)


But *not* with a brush: thick paint and brushmarks are a nightmare. (That
goes for your gloss too. Go for proper 'runny' undercoats and topcoat,
unless you like brushmarks. I hate them, and, once in, they are very
difficult to get out, and get worse with every coat.)

S


3. Does everyone still use rollers or are paint pads the way to do it
nowdays


Rollers. Buy the el cheapo B&Q jobbies & bin them afterwards.


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JimM wrote:
Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard
yellow colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do
something about it. My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in


Nope. Gloss woodwork before you emulsion.

2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the
white for the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat
dependent on what SWMBO picks colourwise


Go for a 'one coat' or 'once' matt emulsion. Don't argue, just do
it :-)


But *not* with a brush: thick paint and brushmarks are a nightmare.
(That goes for your gloss too. Go for proper 'runny' undercoats and
topcoat, unless you like brushmarks. I hate them, and, once in, they
are very difficult to get out, and get worse with every coat.)


That's an interesting comment. I am quite happy to see "grain" though others
might not.

I do still flatten to remove before repainting.


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On Jun 22, 8:26*pm, "JimM" wrote:
Hi all

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something about
it. *My plan of attack is to

Fill any cracks
Sand down filler, woodwork etc
Wash down all over
Emulsion ceiling
Emulsion walls
Gloss woodwork

But before I start I do have a couple of questions

1. Is the above the correct order to do things in
2. Any recomendations on brand of paint to use. Thinking of the white for
the ceiling here as the wall paint will be somewhat dependent on what SWMBO
picks colourwise
3. Does everyone still use rollers or are paint pads the way to do it
nowdays


Are you the bloke who was posting every other message to that thread
about a leaking roof recently?



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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:26:40 +0100, "JimM" wrote:

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something
about
it. My plan of attack is to


Paint pads are used here.

Gloss before emulsion, as emulsion is easy to remove from gloss, not
vice versa. (At least with real gloss, not that watered ****e)


Use Matt Emulsion - never Silk

Why only Matt ? If you mark a matt finish, it is hard to wipe down
without washing off the paint and leavong a mark.
Where people have dogs/cats or "little people" with sticky hands, a
silk, soft sheen or vinyl finish is preferable as they are considered
wipeable.

I only gloss before, if I am wallpapering.


Mike P the 1st


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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:26:40 +0100, "JimM" wrote:

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something
about
it. My plan of attack is to

Paint pads are used here.

Gloss before emulsion, as emulsion is easy to remove from gloss, not
vice versa. (At least with real gloss, not that watered ****e)


Use Matt Emulsion - never Silk

Why only Matt ? If you mark a matt finish, it is hard to wipe down
without washing off the paint and leavong a mark.
Where people have dogs/cats or "little people" with sticky hands, a
silk, soft sheen or vinyl finish is preferable as they are considered
wipeable.

I only gloss before, if I am wallpapering.


Mike P the 1st


Silk seems to exaggerate all imperfections - matt hides them as it scatters
the reflected light better. Modern matts seem to be quite tough when it
comes to washing off marks - the key point is to use plenty of water /
cleaning solution and don't rub too hard. Aim to 'float' the dirt off.


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On 02/07/2010 20:38, Mike P the 1st wrote:
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:26:40 +0100, wrote:

After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something
about
it. My plan of attack is to

Paint pads are used here.

Gloss before emulsion, as emulsion is easy to remove from gloss, not
vice versa. (At least with real gloss, not that watered ****e)


Use Matt Emulsion - never Silk

Why only Matt ?


On a ceiling, it just doesn't look right. Walls, you can get away with,
but that is only my personal opinion.

Dave
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On 02/07/2010 22:51, dave wrote:
On 02/07/2010 20:38, Mike P the 1st wrote:
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After 8 years the wife finally can't take any more of the custard
yellow
colour of our front room so I've been given my orders to do something
about
it. My plan of attack is to

Paint pads are used here.

Gloss before emulsion, as emulsion is easy to remove from gloss, not
vice versa. (At least with real gloss, not that watered ****e)


Use Matt Emulsion - never Silk

Why only Matt ?


On a ceiling, it just doesn't look right. Walls, you can get away with,
but that is only my personal opinion.


It depends on the room IME... generally I like white matt ceilings, but
there are some rooms where silk seems to work better. Probably ones with
highly detailed sculpted ceiling papers - the silk makes the pattern
more visible.


Sorry, I didn't consider that, only plain and artex ones. You are
probably right there.

Dave

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