Hi, all.

We had a big family gathering at the weekend, which involved several
fondues.

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

--
Ron

"Ron Lowe" wrote in message
...
Hi, all.

We had a big family gathering at the weekend, which involved several
fondues.

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for
disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at
a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

--
Ron


OK on TDi200 & TDi300, not too happy with TD5 as it's semi common
rail. However at that dilution it'd probably be ok anyway.

AWEM

On 20/06/2010 20:48, Andrew Mawson wrote:

"Ron wrote in message
...
Hi, all.

We had a big family gathering at the weekend, which involved several
fondues.

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for
disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at
a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

--
Ron


OK on TDi200& TDi300, not too happy with TD5 as it's semi common
rail. However at that dilution it'd probably be ok anyway.

AWEM


OK, I don't know about the designations. It's a 2006 Disco3 V6 2.7ish
Turbo-Diesel.

I don't know the details of how the injection system works.

I may play safe and dump it in the Agrekko genny 500l tank anyways, it
sucks fuel at a furious rate.

--
Ron

On Jun 20, 8:58*pm, Ron Lowe wrote:
On 20/06/2010 20:48, Andrew Mawson wrote:







"Ron *wrote in message
...
Hi, all.

We had a big family gathering at the weekend, which involved several
fondues.

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for
disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at
a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

--
Ron

OK on TDi200& *TDi300, not too happy with TD5 as it's semi common
rail. However at that dilution it'd probably be ok anyway.

AWEM

OK, I don't know about the designations. * It's a 2006 Disco3 V6 2.7ish
Turbo-Diesel.

I don't know the details of how the injection system works.

I may play safe and dump it in the Agrekko genny 500l tank anyways, it
sucks fuel at a furious rate.

Do it at the start of a long run. And give the machine a chance to
clean itself with a drop of the good stuff afterwards. How did you
filter it?

On 20/06/2010 21:02, Weatherlawyer wrote:

Do it at the start of a long run. And give the machine a chance to
clean itself with a drop of the good stuff afterwards. How did you
filter it?


Gravity.

I let it sit overnight, and decanted it like a fine wine.

--
R

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ron Lowe saying
something like:

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

Filter, filter, filter. Down to 5 microns, if possible.
No problem with running clean, dewatered waste veg oil in an older IDI
or even DI system, but I don't and wouldn't do it on a modern CR system.

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ron Lowe saying
something like:

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

Filter, filter, filter. Down to 5 microns, if possible.
No problem with running clean, dewatered waste veg oil in an older IDI
or even DI system, but I don't and wouldn't do it on a modern CR system.

I have a 2 cylinder Lister on a generator, what are your thoughts on
cooking oil in that? Not that I have a lot of it, but it would be good
to find a use for the old stuff.
How easy is it to filter down to 5 microns?
Start and warm up on diesel first or is their a %mix of derv and
cooking oil that is OK?

--
Bill

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Bill
saying something like:

I have a 2 cylinder Lister on a generator, what are your thoughts on
cooking oil in that? Not that I have a lot of it, but it would be good
to find a use for the old stuff.

Jeez, they'll run on anything.

How easy is it to filter down to 5 microns?

Easy in the first stages, coarse filtering can be done with cloth
doubled or tripled over; requires actually buying a filter for the final
ones. 5 micron filters aren't hard to find. At the end stages you really
need to start pumping it if you want it within a reasonable time.

Start and warm up on diesel first or is their a %mix of derv and
cooking oil that is OK?

For a stationary engine I'd start and stop on diesel, and for normal
running, 100% vegoil will be ok once the engine and fuel system are up
to temp. If this is in an unheated outbuilding or outside in the winter,
a heated fuel system is a must for the vegoil pipery.
Of course, it will run perfectly fine on a 50/50 mix in the summer,
60/40 (dino/vegoil) in the winter, but be ready for unreliable starting
in the winter.

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Bill
saying something like:

I have a 2 cylinder Lister on a generator, what are your thoughts on
cooking oil in that? Not that I have a lot of it, but it would be good
to find a use for the old stuff.

Jeez, they'll run on anything.

Thought that maybe the case. :-)



How easy is it to filter down to 5 microns?

Easy in the first stages, coarse filtering can be done with cloth
doubled or tripled over; requires actually buying a filter for the final
ones. 5 micron filters aren't hard to find. At the end stages you really
need to start pumping it if you want it within a reasonable time.

Start and warm up on diesel first or is their a %mix of derv and
cooking oil that is OK?

For a stationary engine I'd start and stop on diesel, and for normal
running, 100% vegoil will be ok once the engine and fuel system are up
to temp. If this is in an unheated outbuilding or outside in the winter,
a heated fuel system is a must for the vegoil pipery.

I'm not that desperate, not yet anyway, so it won't be heated. Be good
to feel a bit "green" though. The smell of the exhaust should
"interest" the neighbours too.

Of course, it will run perfectly fine on a 50/50 mix in the summer,
60/40 (dino/vegoil) in the winter, but be ready for unreliable starting
in the winter.


OK thanks for that, I'll start thinking about change over taps.
--
Bill

"Bill" wrote in message
...
In message , Grimly Curmudgeon
writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ron Lowe saying
something like:

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for
disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

Filter, filter, filter. Down to 5 microns, if possible.
No problem with running clean, dewatered waste veg oil in an older IDI
or even DI system, but I don't and wouldn't do it on a modern CR system.

I have a 2 cylinder Lister on a generator, what are your thoughts on
cooking oil in that? Not that I have a lot of it, but it would be good to
find a use for the old stuff.
How easy is it to filter down to 5 microns?
Start and warm up on diesel first or is their a %mix of derv and cooking
oil that is OK?


At the Golf Club I was a mechanic at a few lives ago we used to run 4 cyl
Massey 235s on a mix of 60% chip oil (From the restaurants) mixed with 30%
Dino and the last 10% was a drop of 4 star.
Mixed up thoroughly in a 45 gal drum, left for a week to settle and siphoned
off to a clean 5 gal plastic drum.

Filter?....... That's what the inline ones used to do innit?

As a low revving DI engine they ran well, and I only changed the filters
annually to nothing lost on performance or cost.

Got some increased patronage at the restaurants though as the chippy smell
used to make the golfers hungry ;-)

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Me Here"
saying something like:

At the Golf Club I was a mechanic at a few lives ago we used to run 4 cyl
Massey 235s on a mix of 60% chip oil (From the restaurants) mixed with 30%
Dino and the last 10% was a drop of 4 star.

Oh yes, that's a good point. I mix in a cupful of petrol (boosts the
cetane rating, supposedly) and a cupful of ATF (keeps injectors clean)
every 60L batch.

I find settling is a good and cheap way, if you've got the time, but the
inline filters on many cars and vans aren't cheap, so pre-filtering is
best.

Ron Lowe wrote:
On 20/06/2010 20:48, Andrew Mawson wrote:

"Ron wrote in message
...
Hi, all.

We had a big family gathering at the weekend, which involved several
fondues.

Consequently, I now have several litres of used groundnut oil for
disposal.

I was considering pouring it into the LR Discovery's diesel tank, at
a
ratio of say 2 litres waste oil to 80 litres of real diesel.

Or if I was shy of that, then into the 500 Litre tank of our big
generator at work.

Comments?

--
Ron


OK on TDi200& TDi300, not too happy with TD5 as it's semi common
rail. However at that dilution it'd probably be ok anyway.

AWEM


OK, I don't know about the designations. It's a 2006 Disco3 V6 2.7ish
Turbo-Diesel.

That's the Ford/Jaguar/LandRover/Peugeot/Citroen common rail V6 diesel
engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 - I wouldn't be
putting Vegetable oil anywhere near it unless I wasn't too bothered if it
kept working!

On 21/06/2010 12:38, chunkyoldcortina wrote:

OK on TDi200& TDi300, not too happy with TD5 as it's semi common
rail. However at that dilution it'd probably be ok anyway.

AWEM


OK, I don't know about the designations. It's a 2006 Disco3 V6 2.7ish
Turbo-Diesel.

That's the Ford/Jaguar/LandRover/Peugeot/Citroen common rail V6 diesel
engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17 - I wouldn't
be putting Vegetable oil anywhere near it unless I wasn't too bothered
if it kept working!



Fine.
It's not going in the Disco.

It's done, 3 litres in the big generator, diluted into 500l of red
diesel. This big engine has a mechanically-driven injector pump with a
series of pipes coming out of it distributor-style to the individual
injectors. Looks like all old diesels to me.

Filtering will be handled by the in-line fuel filters.

--
Ron