I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on the
front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not set in.
I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees so they rest
against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked hinges only allow
about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side and can't go any
further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

Si

Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on the
front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not set in.
I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees so they rest
against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked hinges only allow
about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side and can't go any
further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

Si



These allow the doors to open almost fully i.e. just short of 180 degs.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/16131/...-165-Pack-of-2


The norm is 110 degs

On 15 June, 10:53, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wrote:

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

No idea. But if anyone sells them, I'd start by looking at Isaac Lord.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:53:28 +0100, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wibbled:

I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on
the front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not
set in. I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees
so they rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked
hinges only allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side
and can't go any further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

Si

Sounds like a bog standard kitchen cabinet hinge - remember, those doors
overlap the carcass so the hinge must have some outward motion built in.

Screwfix have then under "concealed hinge". I think there is a version
that screws on both sides, without needing the big round hole - I'm just
looking for the same for a lid on the bog boxing...

--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
o.uk...
I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on the
front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not set in.
I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees so they
rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked hinges only
allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side and can't go any
further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

Si


If anywhere http://www.woodfit.com/
Baz

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:05:02 +0000, Tim Watts wibbled:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:53:28 +0100, "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
wibbled:

I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on
the front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not
set in. I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees
so they rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked
hinges only allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side
and can't go any further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing
out slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

Si

Sounds like a bog standard kitchen cabinet hinge - remember, those doors
overlap the carcass so the hinge must have some outward motion built in.

Screwfix have then under "concealed hinge". I think there is a version
that screws on both sides, without needing the big round hole - I'm just
looking for the same for a lid on the bog boxing...

Sorry - didn't grok the 270 degree bit first time...



--
Tim Watts

Managers, politicians and environmentalists: Nature's carbon buffer.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Mungo \"Two Sheds\" Toadfoot"
saying something like:

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?

There certainly are and I've seen them in use, but I haven't a clue
where you'd find them.

"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
o.uk...
I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on the
front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not set in.
I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees so they
rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked hinges only
allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side and can't go any
further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?


Having a slight problem with my visualisation of the cosmic all but if you
had piano hinges with the hinge pin slightly proud of the side of the desk
would this not allow the door to go all the way back through 270 degrees?

ISTR the top of our old upright piano would fold right back on itself.

HTH

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

In , Mungo "Two
Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:


Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing
out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?


google 'crank hinges'


--
Roger Morton

David WE Roberts wrote:

"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
o.uk...
I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors
on the front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're
not set in. I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270
degrees so they rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the
cranked hinges only allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts
the side and can't go any further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing
out slightly when opening so that it can open fully?


Having a slight problem with my visualisation of the cosmic all but if
you had piano hinges with the hinge pin slightly proud of the side of
the desk would this not allow the door to go all the way back through
270 degrees?

ISTR the top of our old upright piano would fold right back on itself.

HTH

Dave R

I guess these are lay-on doors, like a kitchen unit, in which case
concealed 165 deg hinges are really the only option because they move
the door out sufficiently to clear the carcass. In any case, other types
of hinge don't work with chipboard or mdf because you can't get a good
enough fixing into the edges.

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
o.uk...
I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on
the front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not
set in. I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees so
they rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked hinges
only allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side and can't
go any further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?


Having a slight problem with my visualisation of the cosmic all but if you
had piano hinges with the hinge pin slightly proud of the side of the desk
would this not allow the door to go all the way back through 270 degrees?

ISTR the top of our old upright piano would fold right back on itself.


Hmmm... I have the same trouble visualising what hinges will do, and where
the appropriate parts are fixed. Here, therefore, is some pickchers wot I
have took. You will observe that when the door is opened to full capacity
only the dog can easily pass through the gap, therefore I'd like it to fold
right back. It's not a life-or-death thing but it would make me happy, and
that's all that really matters, isn't it?

Love, peace, and hugs all round,

http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/gytha_ogg/Cubber%20dinges/

Si

"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
...

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...

"Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot" wrote in message
o.uk...
I have here a flat-pack hideaway computer desk wot has got two doors on
the front of it. The doors fit flush across the front, i.e. they're not
set in. I'd like to be able to open the doors fully through 270 degrees
so they rest against the sides when the desk is in use but the cranked
hinges only allow about 220 degrees before the door contacts the side and
can't go any further.

Are there magic hinges available which would allow the door to swing out
slightly when opening so that it can open fully?


Having a slight problem with my visualisation of the cosmic all but if
you had piano hinges with the hinge pin slightly proud of the side of the
desk would this not allow the door to go all the way back through 270
degrees?

ISTR the top of our old upright piano would fold right back on itself.


Hmmm... I have the same trouble visualising what hinges will do, and where
the appropriate parts are fixed. Here, therefore, is some pickchers wot I
have took. You will observe that when the door is opened to full capacity
only the dog can easily pass through the gap, therefore I'd like it to
fold right back. It's not a life-or-death thing but it would make me
happy, and that's all that really matters, isn't it?

Love, peace, and hugs all round,

http://s478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/gytha_ogg/Cubber%20dinges/


Yeah - those hinges won't but I can't see why piano hinges wouldn't do the
trick - need to check that the bit holding the pin in is only 90 degrees
round so that there is a clear space for the other part of the hinge to
rotate.
Go and have a look at cheapo hinges in one of the sheds and see if you can
fold them back on themselves.

Cheers

Dave R
--
No plan survives contact with the enemy.

Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

"David WE Roberts" wrote in message
...


Yeah - those hinges won't but I can't see why piano hinges wouldn't do the
trick - need to check that the bit holding the pin in is only 90 degrees
round so that there is a clear space for the other part of the hinge to
rotate.
Go and have a look at cheapo hinges in one of the sheds and see if you can
fold them back on themselves.


I'm thinking the front of the door, which becomes the back when it's opened,
IYSWIM, will still touch the side of the cabinet when it reaches the angle
of picture three in the link wot I posted. I also suspect piano hinges would
not allow the doors to close if placed so that the door goes right back
against the side of the unit, but then I really do have trouble visualising
hinges working. The mind gets bored in 0.03s and wanders and I'm unable to
get it back.

Si

Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
I'm thinking the front of the door, which becomes the back when it's opened,
IYSWIM, will still touch the side of the cabinet when it reaches the angle
of picture three in the link wot I posted. I also suspect piano hinges would
not allow the doors to close if placed so that the door goes right back
against the side of the unit, but then I really do have trouble visualising
hinges working. The mind gets bored in 0.03s and wanders and I'm unable to
get it back.

It looks like yours have the hinge pin at the back of the door. I reckon
it needs to be extentded around the edge of the door so it lies at the
front.

If you google for "270 degree hinge", you get loads of things like this:-

http://www.hardwaresource.com/index....uct_list&c=492

The only problem (apart from finding a UK source) is that this setup
makes the hinge specific to one thickness of door.

Mind-you, there seems to be a few other designs scattered amongst the
google hits too.

Cheers,

Colin.

"Colin Stamp" wrote in message
o.uk...
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
I'm thinking the front of the door, which becomes the back when it's
opened, IYSWIM, will still touch the side of the cabinet when it reaches
the angle of picture three in the link wot I posted. I also suspect piano
hinges would not allow the doors to close if placed so that the door goes
right back against the side of the unit, but then I really do have
trouble visualising hinges working. The mind gets bored in 0.03s and
wanders and I'm unable to get it back.

It looks like yours have the hinge pin at the back of the door. I reckon
it needs to be extentded around the edge of the door so it lies at the
front.

If you google for "270 degree hinge", you get loads of things like this:-

http://www.hardwaresource.com/index....uct_list&c=492

The only problem (apart from finding a UK source) is that this setup makes
the hinge specific to one thickness of door.

Mind-you, there seems to be a few other designs scattered amongst the
google hits too.


That looks like the very chap required! I see it has an installation diagram
for the hard of thinking too (me) so I shall have a Google around for an
appropriate size. Many thanks.

Si

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Colin Stamp
saying something like:

If you google for "270 degree hinge", you get loads of things like this:-

http://www.hardwaresource.com/index....uct_list&c=492

That's pretty much the type I've seen. Spot-on googling, old chap.

Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
"Colin Stamp" wrote in message
o.uk...
Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
I'm thinking the front of the door, which becomes the back when it's
opened, IYSWIM, will still touch the side of the cabinet when it reaches
the angle of picture three in the link wot I posted. I also suspect piano
hinges would not allow the doors to close if placed so that the door goes
right back against the side of the unit, but then I really do have
trouble visualising hinges working. The mind gets bored in 0.03s and
wanders and I'm unable to get it back.
It looks like yours have the hinge pin at the back of the door. I reckon
it needs to be extentded around the edge of the door so it lies at the
front.

If you google for "270 degree hinge", you get loads of things like this:-

http://www.hardwaresource.com/index....uct_list&c=492

The only problem (apart from finding a UK source) is that this setup makes
the hinge specific to one thickness of door.

Mind-you, there seems to be a few other designs scattered amongst the
google hits too.


That looks like the very chap required! I see it has an installation diagram
for the hard of thinking too (me) so I shall have a Google around for an
appropriate size. Many thanks.

Si



Yes, that looks good for your setup. Never seen them before.

On Jun 16, 2:10*am, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:
Colin Stamp saying something like:
If you google for "270 degree hinge", you get loads of things like this:-
http://www.hardwaresource.com/index....uct_list&c=492

That's pretty much the type I've seen. Spot-on googling, old chap.

Standard American TV cabinet hinges. The inset doors open and fold
back around to the sides.

"js.b1" wrote in message
...
On Jun 16, 2:10 am, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:
Colin Stamp saying something like:
If you google for "270 degree hinge", you get loads of things like this:-
http://www.hardwaresource.com/index....uct_list&c=492

That's pretty much the type I've seen. Spot-on googling, old chap.

Standard American TV cabinet hinges. The inset doors open and fold
back around to the sides.

Just proves what I said... somewhere - you can get pretty much anything in
America. Yeah, yeah, including shot )

Si