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Tim Watts June 2nd 10 09:36 AM

Filler - which one
 
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.

Cheers

Tim

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Tim Watts

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John Whitworth[_3_] June 2nd 10 09:58 AM

Filler - which one
 


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long that's
rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the plasterer
sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over to
take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is very
solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on thin and
not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be emulsioned.
Don't mind having to sand it.


For creamy stuff, you can mix 'powder filler' up to exactly the consistency
you require - i.e. polyfilla, porridge or pancake mix. But bear in mind, it
does remain powdery/porous until sealed/painted. That can make smoothing
very easy though. It's dirt cheap too. A few quid for a small box will last
ages.

JW


Jim K[_2_] June 2nd 10 10:01 AM

Filler - which one
 
On 2 June, 09:36, Tim Watts wrote:
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.


Wickes Master one hit filler is my current fave for non structural
stuff - as recommended here by TMH I think

A lot creamier than "red devil" or screwfix versions I have used in
the past - dries fast (unless inches thick :)), easy to sand if
needed - maybe worth a try?

Cheers
Jim K

Tim Watts June 2nd 10 10:59 AM

Filler - which one
 
On 02/06/10 09:58, John Whitworth wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.


For creamy stuff, you can mix 'powder filler' up to exactly the
consistency you require - i.e. polyfilla, porridge or pancake mix. But
bear in mind, it does remain powdery/porous until sealed/painted. That
can make smoothing very easy though. It's dirt cheap too. A few quid for
a small box will last ages.

JW


OK - I'll get some powder polyfilla - thanks John. Never used it, only
had the ready mixed before. I'll seal it with SBR just to make sure it
won't fall off :)

Cheers

Tim

--
Tim Watts

Hung parliament? Rather have a hanged parliament.

Tim Watts June 2nd 10 11:20 AM

Filler - which one
 
On 02/06/10 10:01, Jim K wrote:
On 2 June, 09:36, Tim wrote:
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.


Wickes Master one hit filler is my current fave for non structural
stuff - as recommended here by TMH I think

A lot creamier than "red devil" or screwfix versions I have used in
the past - dries fast (unless inches thick :)), easy to sand if
needed - maybe worth a try?


Thanks Jim - I'll have a look - going up to Wickes later today.

--
Tim Watts

Hung parliament? Rather have a hanged parliament.

fred June 2nd 10 06:51 PM

Filler - which one
 
In article , Tim Watts
writes
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.

For a really thin coat I'd say joint filler, used to joint taper edge PB
and designed to be sanded out to nothing. 8 quid a 12.5kg bag trade from
memory. Bag says Wondertex Ultralight Joint Filler Extra Smooth, says it
sets in 90mins but I'd leave it til next day for sanding. Goes on with a
float or better with an extra wide filler blade (say 12").
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fred
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DavidM June 2nd 10 07:46 PM

Filler - which one
 
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:36:08 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.

Cheers

Tim

Gyproc Easi-Fill - a bit like Pollyfilla powder but cheaper, easier to
work and can get a nice smooth finish, even blending the edges into
existing plaster. Easy to sand as well.

Got my last 5Kg bag from Wickes, but seen it in Homebase as well.

John Whitworth[_3_] June 2nd 10 10:12 PM

Filler - which one
 


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 02/06/10 09:58, John Whitworth wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.


For creamy stuff, you can mix 'powder filler' up to exactly the
consistency you require - i.e. polyfilla, porridge or pancake mix. But
bear in mind, it does remain powdery/porous until sealed/painted. That
can make smoothing very easy though. It's dirt cheap too. A few quid for
a small box will last ages.

JW


OK - I'll get some powder polyfilla - thanks John. Never used it, only had
the ready mixed before. I'll seal it with SBR just to make sure it won't
fall off :)

It's not powder polyfilla. It's just powder filler. B&Qs own brand was what
I got - but there must be equivalents about.


John Whitworth[_3_] June 2nd 10 10:12 PM

Filler - which one
 


"stuart noble" wrote in message
news:AHsNn.28124$J52.19832@hurricane...
John Whitworth wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.


For creamy stuff, you can mix 'powder filler' up to exactly the
consistency you require - i.e. polyfilla, porridge or pancake mix. But
bear in mind, it does remain powdery/porous until sealed/painted.


I disagree. These days even the cheapest interior fillers have a binder
(pva, cellulose, dunno) that makes them pretty non-porous. If you paint a
plaster wall, the bits that have been filled will usually require less
coats.

OK - it may be non-porous - but it is dusty and easy to rub down until
sealed.


Mr Fuxit June 2nd 10 11:33 PM

Filler - which one
 
On 2 June, 19:46, DavidM wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:36:08 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and the
plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.


Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear over
to take out the minor troughs and roughness.


What's the best these days?


I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will *be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.


Cheers


Tim


Gyproc Easi-Fill - a bit like Pollyfilla powder but cheaper, easier to
work and can get a nice smooth finish, even blending the edges into
existing plaster. Easy to sand as well.

Got my last 5Kg bag from Wickes, but seen it in Homebase as well.




Yep, that's what I'd use!

Stuart Noble June 3rd 10 09:39 AM

Filler - which one
 
John Whitworth wrote:


"stuart noble" wrote in message
news:AHsNn.28124$J52.19832@hurricane...
John Whitworth wrote:


"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
Got a bit of the wall above the tiling, 3" high x couple foot long
that's rough (I misestimated the original height of the tiles and
the plasterer sponged the wall a bit too high.

Anyway, I'm going to hand sand it but I need some filler to smear
over to take out the minor troughs and roughness.

What's the best these days?

I'd like something almost creamy - what I last bought from Wickes is
very solid, like putty which is great for holes. This needs to go on
thin and not mind being feathered. And not fall off(!). It will be
emulsioned. Don't mind having to sand it.

For creamy stuff, you can mix 'powder filler' up to exactly the
consistency you require - i.e. polyfilla, porridge or pancake mix.
But bear in mind, it does remain powdery/porous until sealed/painted.


I disagree. These days even the cheapest interior fillers have a
binder (pva, cellulose, dunno) that makes them pretty non-porous. If
you paint a plaster wall, the bits that have been filled will usually
require less coats.

OK - it may be non-porous - but it is dusty and easy to rub down until
sealed.


Which makes it ideal for the purpose. I tend to use dry wall filler or
Artex for skimming, but I don't think they're quite as resilient as bog
standard filler


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