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On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:47:34 +0000, Jason
wrote: John wrote: Picture (set) here http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3994.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3993.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3992.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3991.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3990.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3989.jpg As you can see there is a wooden shed attached to the shelter That brickwork is gorgeous. You want to demolish it?? To me, that looks too new to be a wartime air raid shelter... It seems to resemble the type of building used by mobile radio (not cellphone) firms for their base stations around the 1970/80s. :-) -- Frank Erskine |
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"Jo" wrote in message o.uk... We moved house in September and our new garden houses a Levenshulme air raid shelter which has been used as a shed. However we have discovered that it is damp, leaks and everything we have stored in it has got ruined. We would like to be able to demolish it and replace it with a 'proper' shed. Has anyone had any experience of demolishing such a sturdy structure? What is a Levenshulme air raid shelter? |
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On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 23:22:24 +0000, Frank Erskine wrote:
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:47:34 +0000, Jason wrote: John wrote: Picture (set) here http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3994.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3993.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3992.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3991.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3990.jpg http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ewIMG_3989.jpg As you can see there is a wooden shed attached to the shelter That brickwork is gorgeous. You want to demolish it?? To me, that looks too new to be a wartime air raid shelter... The external brickwork's certainly in very good condition compared to other wartime "military" stuff that I've seen. *Very* thin roof, too - about half what I would have expected. But then maybe the selling point of most shelters was the reassurance they gave, not their actual performance (plus I've heard that a lot of military stuff was far too weedy to withstand much except for a quite far-off blast anyway; it was generally all a little under-engineered for the purpose) I have seen records of small surface structures like that which lead to much more interesting subterranean things beneath - maybe the OP should be hacking the floor up to see if there's a sealed-up staircase underneath cheers Jules |
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I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won!
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On 2/10/2013 6:08 PM, SteveW wrote:
On 10/02/2013 22:57, wrote: I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won! My grandparents had one. They kept it and used it as a shed. My grandparents did the same. |
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:08:15 +0000, SteveW
wrote: My grandparents had one. They kept it and used it as a shed. In the 60s it was quite common to see them turned to other uses, but some hardy souls had knocked theirs down. Rather, paid some other hardy soul to do it. In later years I really wished for one as a dead handy shed that could have been made utterly impregnable. |
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:43:44 +0000, fred wrote:
You're replying to a post that is over 3 years old you twit, get a grip. He only started weilding the sledgehammer when the post was fresh. |
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On Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:08:15 PM UTC, SteveW wrote:
On 10/02/2013 22:57, wrote: I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that.. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won! My grandparents had one. They kept it and used it as a shed. SteveW I had one of these at my first house - I'd considered demolishing it but then I saw another one close by in the process of demolition. Reinforced concrete roof, brickwork reinforced with steel rods... I kept it, put a strong door on and used it as a wine store (so dampness wasn't a major problem). The one problem there was was manoeuvring the cases of wine in since it still had a blast wall. |
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"Rick Hughes" wrote in message ... On 10/02/2013 22:57, wrote: I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won! There was an ex Austrian housepainter who would send over people who would knock them down for nothing ... not been around for a while. Does anyone know of an alternative site or something about that bloke in Jersey (or was it Guernsey) that found a nazi air raid shelter type thing in his garden, main site has most photo's not showing up, and the last entry in 2009 i believe, Or did he find the lost gold at the back of it and has buggered off to spend it? |
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:30:10 -0000, "Gazz" wrote:
Does anyone know of an alternative site or something about that bloke in Jersey (or was it Guernsey) that found a nazi air raid shelter type thing in his garden, main site has most photo's not showing up, and the last entry in 2009 i believe, Nothing in google channel islands war tunnels? |
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On Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:57:29 PM UTC, wrote:
I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won! I gather the recommended tool is called a V2. I couldn't find one down the hardware mongers tho. Could always try ebay. PS, do prepare the site properly, and keep a safe distance. NT |
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In article ,
wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:57:29 PM UTC, wrote: I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won! I gather the recommended tool is called a V2. I couldn't find one down the hardware mongers tho. Could always try ebay. better than ebay might be a military surplus store. there's a big one in Nottingham called "Anchor" . There are probably others. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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On Tuesday 12 February 2013 18:17 wrote in uk.d-i-y:
On Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:57:29 PM UTC, wrote: I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. We have only got as far as caving the roof in and taking down half of the entrance. That's 3 walls to go and the clear up. Reinforced concrete roof with steel bars running through the bricks all the way to the foundations. Forget kangos. Get a concrete saw and a road drill. Hit it hard with a sledge hammer. Failing that. Blow it up. You may go to prison,but at least you will have won! I gather the recommended tool is called a V2. I couldn't find one down the hardware mongers tho. Could always try ebay. PS, do prepare the site properly, and keep a safe distance. The question is: How would Fred Dibnah have done it? -- Tim Watts Personal Blog: http://squiddy.blog.dionic.net/ If you are reading this from a web interface eg DIY Banter, DIY Forum or Google Groups, please be aware this is NOT a forum, and you are merely using a web portal to a USENET group. Many people block posters coming from web portals due to perceived SPAM or inaneness. For a better method of access, please see: http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Usenet |
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In article , charles
writes In article , wrote: On Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:57:29 PM UTC, wrote: I've Just spent 16 hours of my weekend having a go at one of these. Good luck! There's about 3 weekends worth of work left. snip I gather the recommended tool is called a V2. I couldn't find one down the hardware mongers tho. Could always try ebay. better than ebay might be a military surplus store. there's a big one in Nottingham called "Anchor" . snip -but can you endure endless George Formby records while you are browsing their stock? -- Chris Holford |
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On 10/02/2013 23:40, alan wrote:
Blow it up. isn't that exactly what they protect against |
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On 14/08/2013 19:45, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 10/02/2013 23:40, alan wrote: Blow it up. isn't that exactly what they protect against Obviously a very slow burning fuse... -- Rod |
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On 14/08/2013 19:45, Rick Hughes wrote:
On 10/02/2013 23:40, alan wrote: Blow it up. isn't that exactly what they protect against They protect against being blown up from the outside - they will be far less resistant to being blown up from the inside ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message
... On 14/08/2013 19:45, Rick Hughes wrote: On 10/02/2013 23:40, alan wrote: Blow it up. isn't that exactly what they protect against They protect against being blown up from the outside - they will be far less resistant to being blown up from the inside ;-) I reckon it's a job for 617 squadron, and Barnes Wallis's 'Tall Boy' AWEM |
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On 14/08/2013 20:48, Andrew Mawson wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message ... On 14/08/2013 19:45, Rick Hughes wrote: On 10/02/2013 23:40, alan wrote: Blow it up. isn't that exactly what they protect against They protect against being blown up from the outside - they will be far less resistant to being blown up from the inside ;-) I reckon it's a job for 617 squadron, and Barnes Wallis's 'Tall Boy' AWEM What's wrong with an SDB AKA bunker buster? |
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On 14/08/2013 21:49, dennis@home wrote:
On 14/08/2013 20:48, Andrew Mawson wrote: "John Rumm" wrote in message ... On 14/08/2013 19:45, Rick Hughes wrote: On 10/02/2013 23:40, alan wrote: Blow it up. isn't that exactly what they protect against They protect against being blown up from the outside - they will be far less resistant to being blown up from the inside ;-) I reckon it's a job for 617 squadron, and Barnes Wallis's 'Tall Boy' AWEM What's wrong with an SDB AKA bunker buster? Seems that only gets through about three feet of steel reinforced concrete. -- Rod |
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