I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one which
can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does get below
freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux) works fine there, but
I know that it isn't technically rated for it. My understanding is that
there's really only a problem on combined fridge/freezers, where cheaper
units has a single thermostat somewhere which may detect it cold enough
outside not to need to cool the fridge and it also decides not to cool the
freezer bit.

Piers

Piers Finlayson
wibbled on Monday 14 December 2009 16:43

I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one
which can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does get
below
freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux) works fine there,
but
I know that it isn't technically rated for it. My understanding is that
there's really only a problem on combined fridge/freezers, where cheaper
units has a single thermostat somewhere which may detect it cold enough
outside not to need to cool the fridge and it also decides not to cool the
freezer bit.

Piers

Not a chest freezer, but my 1995 Hotpoint Iced Diamond "normal" freezer is
as quiet and as effective as the day I bought it, save for an internal door
clip snapping.

Of course, that was 1995 - can't say anything about their current
reputation.

Mine does have a cabinet heater built in to avoid condensation in cool
environments.

--
Tim Watts

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Piers Finlayson wrote:
I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit
large amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine
thread, wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one
which can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does
get below freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux)
works fine there, but I know that it isn't technically rated for it.
My understanding is that there's really only a problem on combined
fridge/freezers, where cheaper units has a single thermostat
somewhere which may detect it cold enough outside not to need to cool
the fridge and it also decides not to cool the freezer bit.

Piers

Mine's in an unheated outbuilding and you've got to watch out for
condesation pooling on the top of the lid - it then pours down the back when
you open it up. this is resolved by having a cloth in the vicinity

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

"Tim W" wrote in message
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Piers Finlayson
wibbled on Monday 14 December 2009 16:43

I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one
which can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does get
below
freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux) works fine there,
but
I know that it isn't technically rated for it. My understanding is that
there's really only a problem on combined fridge/freezers, where cheaper
units has a single thermostat somewhere which may detect it cold enough
outside not to need to cool the fridge and it also decides not to cool
the
freezer bit.

Piers

Not a chest freezer, but my 1995 Hotpoint Iced Diamond "normal" freezer is
as quiet and as effective as the day I bought it, save for an internal
door
clip snapping.

Of course, that was 1995 - can't say anything about their current
reputation.

Mine does have a cabinet heater built in to avoid condensation in cool
environments.

--
Tim Watts

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I think you will find that the heater you refer to is in fact the condenser
which is built into a double skin outer casing.

John
wibbled on Monday 14 December 2009 18:18


"Tim W" wrote in message
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Piers Finlayson
wibbled on Monday 14 December 2009 16:43

I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one
which can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does get
below
freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux) works fine there,
but
I know that it isn't technically rated for it. My understanding is that
there's really only a problem on combined fridge/freezers, where cheaper
units has a single thermostat somewhere which may detect it cold enough
outside not to need to cool the fridge and it also decides not to cool
the
freezer bit.

Piers

Not a chest freezer, but my 1995 Hotpoint Iced Diamond "normal" freezer
is as quiet and as effective as the day I bought it, save for an internal
door
clip snapping.

Of course, that was 1995 - can't say anything about their current
reputation.

Mine does have a cabinet heater built in to avoid condensation in cool
environments.

--
Tim Watts

This space intentionally left blank...


I think you will find that the heater you refer to is in fact the
condenser which is built into a double skin outer casing.

No. Mine's an electric auxillary heater - there's a switch to disable it
(the "economy" switch).

The condensor is round the back in the usual location ;-

--
Tim Watts

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The critical thing to consider when using a freezer in a cool location
is the effect of external condensation. Even if the freezer is rated for
such use, condensation can compromise the insulation by soaking into the
foam and eventually turning the foam into a block of ice not only does
this mean the insulation effectiveness is reduced but also the steel
refigerant pipes buried next to the insulation corrode and the
refrigerant leaks out.
There is one type that reduces the problem. These don't have the
conventional black radiator on the back but instead use the whole skin
of the case to dissipate the waste heat. it is rare to get condensation
on this design. The efficiency is slightly lower as a result but the
machine lasts longer.
I always put the freezer up on bricks and keep it a good few inches from
any walls. This allows more air to circulate and reduce condensation.

Bob

wrote:
On 14 Dec,
Piers wrote:

I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one which
can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does get below
freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux) works fine there, bu
I know that it isn't technically rated for it. My understanding is that
there's really only a problem on combined fridge/freezers, where cheaper
units has a single thermostat somewhere which may detect it cold enough
outside not to need to cool the fridge and it also decides not to cool the
freezer bit.

I've recently got a Liebherr. So far so good. running costs far lower than
the one it replaced. It's in the kitchen but I think it is rated as suitable
for the garage.

In message , Piers Finlayson
writes
I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

As well as reliability and energy efficiency I'm also looking for one which
can survive being left in an unheated outbuilding which does get below
freezing. My existing (el cheapo, Zanussi-Electrolux) works fine there, but
I know that it isn't technically rated for it. My understanding is that
there's really only a problem on combined fridge/freezers, where cheaper
units has a single thermostat somewhere which may detect it cold enough
outside not to need to cool the fridge and it also decides not to cool the
freezer bit.


We have an Electrolux Premier Eco chest freezer, it spent at least 5
years in the unheated detached garage in our old house with no problems.

worked fine, no evidence of condensation on it (though presumably that
has much to do with the environment it's in.)
--
Chris French

"Piers Finlayson" wrote in message
...
I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

Not quite what you asked, but I always assumed that chest freezers were more
efficient than upright freezers because the door was on top so less 'cold'
was lost when you opened the door.

However last time I looked upright freezers had better efficiency ratings
than chest freezers.

So does it have to be a chest freezer?
You may find a better option in an upright freezer.

HTH

Dave R

On 16/12/2009 09:11, in article , "David
WE Roberts" wrote:


"Piers Finlayson" wrote in message
...
I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

Not quite what you asked, but I always assumed that chest freezers were more
efficient than upright freezers because the door was on top so less 'cold'
was lost when you opened the door.

However last time I looked upright freezers had better efficiency ratings
than chest freezers.

So does it have to be a chest freezer?
You may find a better option in an upright freezer.


Actually, an upright freezer would be just fine too - as you, I had assumed
that chest freezers were more efficient (and probably cheaper too for the
same size). It would also be nice to save the floor space with an upright.

Thanks for the suggestion.

In message , David WE Roberts
writes

"Piers Finlayson" wrote in message
...
I'm going to need to buy an additional chest freezer soon, to fit large
amounts of dead pig, and, inspired by the Miele/washing machine thread,
wondered if those here had any recommendations.

Not quite what you asked, but I always assumed that chest freezers were
more efficient than upright freezers because the door was on top so
less 'cold' was lost when you opened the door.

However last time I looked upright freezers had better efficiency
ratings than chest freezers.


Well, just a quick gander around the web, there are plenty of both
upright and chest freezers that are highly rated on the efficiency
gradings (most of either type seem to be A+ nowadays.

However, a random sampling of a a couple suggests that the listed annual
power consumption for chest freezers is a bit lower than for uprights.

Is the door opening factored into the energy ratings though. I suspect
not?
--
Chris French