My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing it,
but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it lets
the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything I can do
to undo the rad to bleed it please?

Ben Short wrote:
My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to
bleed one rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I
have broken two keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way
clockwise facing it, but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a
few others. I have bled the bathroom one and it is still cold so need
to do this kitchen one so it lets the heeat through but I cannot undo
it. Can anyone suggest anything I can do to undo the rad to bleed it
please?

Spray it with WD40 & leave for a while, use a steel (not brass) bleed key -
you might need to hold it with something like mole grips for extra leverage.
Steady pressure is best.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Ben Short
wibbled on Wednesday 25 November 2009 00:43

My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing it,

Anticlockwise shurley?

but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it
lets the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything I
can do to undo the rad to bleed it please?

I've not known them stick like that. I'm also impressed that you've broken 2
keys without destroying the valve.

If the thread is seized due to corrosion, I might try:

a) using a metal rod, place one end on the bit of the valve that is supposed
to turn and tap the other end sharply but not excessively with a pin hammer
(as opposed to a club hammer). That might break the seal. You want sharp
light shocks, not dull heavy ones, the latter of course may snap something
off causing you to become wet and highly unpopular!


z) Heat the valve pin (as far as it is possible to do so) with a blowtorch
and hope the expansion cracks the seal, noting that this will knacker the
paint and possibly the hemp/bosswhite or whatever is sealing the air bleed
valve into the rad.

There are probably many other ideas between a and z. z really is a plan of
last resort if a-y fail.

--
Tim Watts

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Ben Short
wibbled on Wednesday 25 November 2009 00:43

My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed
one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing
it,

Anticlockwise shurley?

but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled
the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it
lets the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything
I
can do to undo the rad to bleed it please?

I've not known them stick like that. I'm also impressed that you've broken
2
keys without destroying the valve.

If the thread is seized due to corrosion, I might try:

a) using a metal rod, place one end on the bit of the valve that is
supposed
to turn and tap the other end sharply but not excessively with a pin
hammer
(as opposed to a club hammer). That might break the seal. You want sharp
light shocks, not dull heavy ones, the latter of course may snap something
off causing you to become wet and highly unpopular!


z) Heat the valve pin (as far as it is possible to do so) with a blowtorch
and hope the expansion cracks the seal, noting that this will knacker the
paint and possibly the hemp/bosswhite or whatever is sealing the air bleed
valve into the rad.

There are probably many other ideas between a and z. z really is a plan of
last resort if a-y fail.

--
Tim Watts

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The valve is on the rear of the rad, left hand side. If I look at it from
the front it needs turning to the right, clockwise to undo it, which if I
was behind the rad looking at the valve would be anticlockwise.

Is this right.

"Ben Short" wrote:
The valve is on the rear of the rad, left hand side. If I look at it from
the front it needs turning to the right, clockwise to undo it, which if I
was behind the rad looking at the valve would be anticlockwise.

Is this right.

Yes.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:43:47 -0000, "Ben Short"
wrote:

My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing it,
but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it lets
the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything I can do
to undo the rad to bleed it please?


Still manually bleeding those radiators?

http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...r_Bleeder.html

Seen these the other week on an eco-site...

I imagine if they go wrong it's a bit messy though.
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"Ben Short" wrote

My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing it,
but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it
lets the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything I
can do to undo the rad to bleed it please?

Try tightening it VERY SLIGHTLY then slackening.
Sometimes threads bind up so that a small movement in the opposite direction
is needed to free them before unscrewing.

Phil

On Nov 25, 8:48*am, "TheScullster" wrote:
"Ben Short" wrote

My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing it,
but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it
lets the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything I
can do to undo the rad to bleed it please?

Try tightening it VERY SLIGHTLY then slackening.
Sometimes threads bind up so that a small movement in the opposite direction
is needed to free them before unscrewing.

Phil

Someone suggested a blow torch, but a soldering iron can also give
localised heating that might free it.

Another thought: what about puttin ga new bleed screwin the other
end? perhaps you can remove the plug there more easily thatn getting
the original screw to work.

RObert

"RobertL" wrote

Another thought: what about puttin ga new bleed screwin the other
end? perhaps you can remove the plug there more easily thatn getting
the original screw to work.


The type of rad the OP is describing has the bleed nipple on the back face
not in a screwed connection to each end.
If it's like the ones we have at work there are proper *pipe tappings* at
the bottom of the rad at each end only.


Phil

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ben Short wrote:



The valve is on the rear of the rad, left hand side. If I look at it
from the front it needs turning to the right, clockwise to undo it,
which if I was behind the rad looking at the valve would be
anticlockwise.
Is this right.

Yes, that's right. But your original reference to "clockwise when facing it"
was misleading - because you *ain't* facing the valve when you're in front
of the radiator!
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mogga
wibbled on Wednesday 25 November 2009 08:37



Still manually bleeding those radiators?


http://www.heatandplumb.com/acatalog...r_Bleeder.html

Seen these the other week on an eco-site...

I imagine if they go wrong it's a bit messy though.

Last time I looked into something like those, they had a very finite stated
life before maintainance was required...

I'd like them more if they were like the pipe fitted auto bleeders, that you
had to activate by unscrewing a valve. Mostly automatic, but after a week
or two when tyhe system is fully purged of dissolved air, you can at least
lock them off for peace of mind.

As all my pipe drops are from the ceiling down and the feed pipe will go
into the top of the rad, I might be able to arrange auto bleeders in the
pipework rather than the rads. I'll still have a manual bleed valve on the
rad though.

--
Tim Watts

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RobertL
wibbled on Wednesday 25 November 2009 09:00

On Nov 25, 8:48*am, "TheScullster" wrote:
"Ben Short" wrote

My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed
one rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have
broken two keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way
clockwise facing it, but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few
others. I have bled the bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do
this kitchen one so it lets the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can
anyone suggest anything I can do to undo the rad to bleed it please?

Try tightening it VERY SLIGHTLY then slackening.
Sometimes threads bind up so that a small movement in the opposite
direction is needed to free them before unscrewing.

Phil

Someone suggested a blow torch, but a soldering iron can also give
localised heating that might free it.

Yes - that's sounds like an excellent idea. Usually the screw in bit of a
bleed valve is very light - if you could dump a bit of heat into that alone
quickly, it might do the trick.

At least it will almost certainly not damage anything. Definately a plan
(a/b)

Another thought: what about puttin ga new bleed screwin the other
end? perhaps you can remove the plug there more easily thatn getting
the original screw to work.

RObert

--
Tim Watts

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In article ,
Ben Short wrote:
My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed
one rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have
broken two keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way
clockwise facing it, but it will not budge.

There's your problem. Facing it, you turn anti-clockwise to unscrew.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Ben Short wrote:
My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed
one rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have
broken two keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way
clockwise facing it, but it will not budge.

There's your problem. Facing it, you turn anti-clockwise to unscrew.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Read the other posts. He is not facing it. The bleed screw is on the back
of the radiator.

"Ben Short" wrote in message
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My inlaws have just moved into a new dormer and I cannot seem to bleed one
rad for them. It is behind the rad on the far left and I have broken two
keys trying to undo it. I am turning it the right way clockwise facing it,
but it will not budge. It is cold and so are a few others. I have bled the
bathroom one and it is still cold so need to do this kitchen one so it
lets the heeat through but I cannot undo it. Can anyone suggest anything I
can do to undo the rad to bleed it please?

Righty Tighty.
Lefty Loosey.

Baz