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amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my
programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK |
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JimK wrote:
amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Well the Screwfix site says it has battery backup, so perhaps yours hasn't been fitted ? Andy C |
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"Andy Cap" wrote in message o.uk... JimK wrote: amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Well the Screwfix site says it has battery backup, so perhaps yours hasn't been fitted ? Andy C Perhaps a little bit of plastic tape hasn't been removed from the battery compartment? Peter |
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Peter Andrews wrote:
Perhaps a little bit of plastic tape hasn't been removed from the battery compartment? Peter He wont own up either way ! ;-) Andy C |
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On Oct 28, 5:25 pm, Andy Cap wrote:
Peter Andrews wrote: Perhaps a little bit of plastic tape hasn't been removed from the battery compartment? Peter He wont own up either way ! ;-) Andy C arf etc well it remembers the time and day whatever happens so *a* battery is connected somehwere - nought in it's instructions about remembering programming, - nought in it's instructions about bits of paper back to the experts please Jim |
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JimK wrote:
On Oct 28, 5:25 pm, Andy Cap wrote: Peter Andrews wrote: Perhaps a little bit of plastic tape hasn't been removed from the battery compartment? Peter He wont own up either way ! ;-) Andy C arf etc well it remembers the time and day whatever happens so *a* battery is connected somehwere - nought in it's instructions about remembering programming, - nought in it's instructions about bits of paper back to the experts please Mine does and doesn't. Half the time when the power gioes, its because there is some kind of line surge, and that has a 50-50 chance of seemingly wiping out whatever flash RAM or battery backed Ram they use. Jim |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
JimK wrote: On Oct 28, 5:25 pm, Andy Cap wrote: Peter Andrews wrote: Perhaps a little bit of plastic tape hasn't been removed from the battery compartment? Peter He wont own up either way ! ;-) Andy C arf etc well it remembers the time and day whatever happens so *a* battery is connected somehwere - nought in it's instructions about remembering programming, - nought in it's instructions about bits of paper back to the experts please Mine does and doesn't. Half the time when the power gioes, its because there is some kind of line surge, and that has a 50-50 chance of seemingly wiping out whatever flash RAM or battery backed Ram they use. Jim I've got an old Drayton and coincidentally we has a power outage for a couple of hours at midday and as previously, all settings are retained. There's no point having a battery if the thing loses it's settings. I'd be having a word with Danfoss, looking for a solution. Andy C |
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JimK pretended :
well it remembers the time and day whatever happens so *a* battery is connected somehwere - nought in it's instructions about remembering programming, - nought in it's instructions about bits of paper As the clock part is likely a separate part to the memory which stores the program and often clocks keep going while the memory is lost if the battery is not quite up to spec.. I would suggest that the voltage of the battery is checked, be it rechargeable or replaceable cell. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:13:42 GMT, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
As the clock part is likely a separate part to the memory which stores the program and often clocks keep going while the memory is lost if the battery is not quite up to spec.. I would suggest that the voltage of the battery is checked, be it rechargeable or replaceable cell. How long has the thing been connected to power? Some have rechargeable batteries that take a while (day or two) to become fully charged from initial power up. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Oct 28, 11:54 pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:13:42 GMT, Harry Bloomfield wrote: As the clock part is likely a separate part to the memory which stores the program and often clocks keep going while the memory is lost if the battery is not quite up to spec.. I would suggest that the voltage of the battery is checked, be it rechargeable or replaceable cell. How long has the thing been connected to power? Some have rechargeable batteries that take a while (day or two) to become fully charged from initial power up. -- Cheers Dave. about 10 months :) (I still regard it as new...) have emailed DPS and Danfoss and we'll see what occurs. Cheers JimK |
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JimK wrote:
amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? Maybe the battery isn't fitted correctly or you have a faulty unit |
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In article , Rob Horton
writes Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? In this instance I would say that indefinitely means just longer than it takes for your rights to expire under SOGA. -- fred BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs |
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On Oct 29, 10:52 am, Rob Horton wrote:
JimK wrote: amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? Maybe the battery isn't fitted correctly or you have a faulty unit thanks for the link to the pdf :) cheers JimK |
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On Oct 29, 12:34 pm, JimK wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:52 am, Rob Horton wrote: JimK wrote: amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? Maybe the battery isn't fitted correctly or you have a faulty unit thanks for the link to the pdf :) cheers JimK well so far Danfoss have confirmed that it should retain programming (as we now know), DPS have yet to reply to my emails JimK |
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"JimK" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 12:34 pm, JimK wrote: On Oct 29, 10:52 am, Rob Horton wrote: JimK wrote: amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? Maybe the battery isn't fitted correctly or you have a faulty unit thanks for the link to the pdf :) cheers JimK well so far Danfoss have confirmed that it should retain programming (as we now know), DPS have yet to reply to my emails JimK I am sure that the battery is an internal rechargable one on this model. You have a faulty internal battery. Pressure Danfoss into a replacement. Adam |
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On Oct 29, 7:27 pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: "JimK" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 12:34 pm, JimK wrote: On Oct 29, 10:52 am, Rob Horton wrote: JimK wrote: amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? Maybe the battery isn't fitted correctly or you have a faulty unit thanks for the link to the pdf :) cheers JimK well so far Danfoss have confirmed that it should retain programming (as we now know), DPS have yet to reply to my emails JimK I am sure that the battery is an internal rechargable one on this model. You have a faulty internal battery. Pressure Danfoss into a replacement. Adam well as DPS supplied the shebang I expect they (contractually) to sort it out pronto. Should that not work out, I will get back onto Danfoss who have been prompt and informative so far. cheers JimK |
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On 29 Oct, 20:04, JimK wrote:
On Oct 29, 7:27 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: "JimK" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 12:34 pm, JimK wrote: On Oct 29, 10:52 am, Rob Horton wrote: JimK wrote: amazingly my new heatbank has a programmer that doesn;t remember my programming when there's a power cut/interruption/tripped mcb etc - does that sound right or have i got a duffer? Getting fecked off with the reprogramming/not knwoing if it's reset itself unless checking - what are the reccommendations for a replacement that remembers!? any to avoid? Is this an opportunity to soup it up with weather compensation and other clever stuff perchance? Currently it's a "Danfoss FP715Si" - 2 channel, pretty flexible but what's the point if it can't feckin remember it!! TIA JimK Looking at the datasheet http://danfoss-randall.co.uk/PCMPDF/732v02.pdf reveals the following information: "Battery backup on power failure" "Time and all other settings-indefinately" Hmm, interesting use of the word indefinately. How long is that, 1 year, 10 years or 500,000,000 years? Maybe the battery isn't fitted correctly or you have a faulty unit thanks for the link to the pdf :) cheers JimK well so far Danfoss have confirmed that it should retain programming (as we now know), DPS have yet to reply to my emails JimK I am sure that the battery is an internal rechargable one on this model. You have a faulty internal battery. Pressure Danfoss into a replacement. Adam well as DPS supplied the shebang I expect they (contractually) to sort it out pronto. Should that not work out, I will get back onto Danfoss who have been prompt and informative so far. cheers JimK so much for pronto, they've apparently sent me another programmer day before yesterday by fedex "next day" - whose website now claims there's an address query - doh! No replies to my emails asking DPS to check it out - seems to be usual practice down there...... You got your ears on DPS?? |
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