Is there a height restriction on a garden shed or similar which is placed
close to a property boundary?

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On 15 Oct, 09:38, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Is there a height restriction on a garden shed or similar which is placed
close to a property boundary?

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Speak to a planning officer at your local authority planning
department and or look at their website There are some height,
placement and distance from boundary restrictions.

Toom

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Is there a height restriction on a garden shed or similar which is placed
close to a property boundary?

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When I built a timber garage with a brick dwarf wall, it had to be 1m inside
the boundary. Then a 4m height restriction without pp.

mark

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Is there a height restriction on a garden shed or similar which is placed
close to a property boundary?


See http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html -
this covers both planning and building regs.
Note the different building regs. for up to 15sq m floor area and up to 30sq
m. floor area and the differences if you are building from 'substantially
non-combustible materials'.

You will need to comply with a mixture of planning and building regs. - it
has become quite confusing following the latest act.

For your specific question:

"#
Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of
2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched
roof or three metres for any other roof.
#
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or
container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the
dwellinghouse."

This is, of course, to build without having to submit an application for
planning or building regs approval. With approval I presume much more is
possible.

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On 15 Oct, 09:38, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
Is there a height restriction on a garden shed or similar which is placed
close to a property boundary?

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Speak to a planning officer at your local authority planning
department and or look at their website There are some height,
placement and distance from boundary restrictions.

Toom

I nearly did that today, all lines busy unfortunately. Just bought a
new garden shed, well a 10' metal shipping container actually. I think
I should be OK, neighbours don't mind, infact one of them is popping
around with a JCB to dig out a base for it. But I do want to check with
planning before I put it in place.
All I need to do then is figure out what sort of wooden cladding to put
on the outside to make it look pretty!!!!!!!!!!



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Bill

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David WE Roberts wrote:
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or
container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the
dwellinghouse."

Right. This is a sort of gazebo. Hexagonal with a pointy roof. The top of
which I'd guess is some 3.5 metres. And less than 0.5 metre from the
boundary.

This is, of course, to build without having to submit an application for
planning or building regs approval. With approval I presume much more is
possible.

Would any planning application be notified to those the other side of the
boundary?

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On 15 Oct, 23:34, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
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* *David WE Roberts wrote:

Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or
container *within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the
dwellinghouse."

Right. This is a sort of gazebo. Hexagonal with a pointy roof. The top of
which I'd guess is some 3.5 metres. And less than 0.5 metre from the
boundary.

This is, of course, to build without having to submit an application for
planning or building regs approval. With approval I presume much more is
possible.

Would any planning application be notified to those the other side of the
boundary?


For most types of application, specific neighbour notification and/or
a public notice displayed at the site is a standard part and purpose
of the procedure to allow affected parties to consider and make
representation if appropriate.

I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Toom

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Toom Tabard wrote:
Would any planning application be notified to those the other side of the
boundary?


For most types of application, specific neighbour notification and/or
a public notice displayed at the site is a standard part and purpose
of the procedure to allow affected parties to consider and make
representation if appropriate.

Snag with that is it's in a different street. And most affected by it
might never go there.

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Toom Tabard wrote:
I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Definitely written by an idiot. 'Curtilage' isn't in basic dictionaries.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
David WE Roberts wrote:
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or
container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the
dwellinghouse."

Right. This is a sort of gazebo. Hexagonal with a pointy roof. The top of
which I'd guess is some 3.5 metres. And less than 0.5 metre from the
boundary.

This is, of course, to build without having to submit an application for
planning or building regs approval. With approval I presume much more is
possible.

Would any planning application be notified to those the other side of the
boundary?

If it is wooden construction then I think you would contravene both planning
and building regs.
I keep getting confused over all this, but I think under 15sq m internal
floor area must still be 0.5m from the boundary if there is any chance of it
catching fire.
As you are less than 2m from the boundary you are outside the planning
guidelines as well.
"Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or
container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the
dwellinghouse."

Curtilage is a wierd word - (sound like a west country version of gristle)
and I only found out about it when looking at details for a house which came
with extra land outside the curtilage which (in this particlular case)
limited what you could do with the extra land.

I think that any planning application would be notified to all your
immediate neighbours including those at the bottom of your garden - but best
to check with planning themselves.

If nobody objects and nobody official notices then after a while you should
be O.K. (I think) - but one nosey or grumpy person could result in you
having to move it or pull it down.

On 16 Oct, 14:17, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
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* *Toom Tabard wrote:

Would any planning application be notified to those the other side of the
boundary?

For most types of application, specific neighbour notification and/or
a public notice displayed at the site is a standard part and purpose
of the procedure to allow affected parties to consider and make
representation if appropriate.

Snag with that is it's in a different street. And most affected by it
might never go there.


Neighbour means neighbour to the installation site. Don't know
specifics in England, but in Scotland it would be all those within a
certain distance of the installation site. And public display location
(s) can be a black art, but is usually where those likely to be
affected would see it.

Toom

On 16 Oct, 14:23, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
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* *Toom Tabard wrote:

I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Definitely written by an idiot. 'Curtilage' isn't in basic dictionaries.

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Try using an on line dictionary - far quicker, more reliable and
considerably more extensive ;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/curtilage

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robgraham wrote:
On 16 Oct, 14:23, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article
,
Toom Tabard wrote:

I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Definitely written by an idiot. 'Curtilage' isn't in basic
dictionaries.


Try using an on line dictionary - far quicker, more reliable and
considerably more extensive ;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/curtilage

Quicker? How can it be quicker than one on your HD? And which doubles as a
spell checker?

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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:23:18 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article
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Toom Tabard wrote:
I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Definitely written by an idiot. 'Curtilage' isn't in basic dictionaries.

French legalese. "A piece of land cut off to form a Courtyard"

It's a legal term to describe a (possibly walled) enclosure without a
roof on it's own land but associated with a house and benefiting from
the same protection as the house for legal purposes.

Can be within the house or outside it, or even seperate altogether.

Important in American law when it comes to tresspassers getting shot.

Derek

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
David WE Roberts wrote:
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or
container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the
dwellinghouse."


Can i ask you where you bought a metal shipping container to use as a shed
please?

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article
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Toom Tabard wrote:
I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Definitely written by an idiot. 'Curtilage' isn't in basic dictionaries.

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Search Google.... define: curtilage

It's in loads of dictionaries.

mark

In article ,
mark wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article
,
Toom Tabard wrote:
I assume a gazebo would be classified as an outbuilding:-

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/eng...315233153.html

Definitely written by an idiot. 'Curtilage' isn't in basic
dictionaries.

Search Google.... define: curtilage

It's in loads of dictionaries.

And the one at the top of the list here is this one :-

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/d.../d0004149.html

I rest my case. ;-)

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In article ,
David WE Roberts wrote:
If nobody objects and nobody official notices then after a while you
should be O.K. (I think) - but one nosey or grumpy person could result
in you having to move it or pull it down.

It's not me who's building it. It would take up most of my garden. ;-)

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In message , john royce
writes

Can i ask you where you bought a metal shipping container to use as a shed
please?

I found mine at a local mechanics workshop on a farm where he had been
using it for storage, there were also a couple of 20' ones in an auction
centre in Bedford last week that went for £750:00 each.



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John Rumm
wibbled on Saturday 17 October 2009 13:45

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Is there a height restriction on a garden shed or similar which is placed
close to a property boundary?

From memory, it needs to be 1m or more away from the boundary if made
from combustible material (a rule almost universally ignored IME), and
can be up to 3m high with a pent roof, or 4m to the top of an apex roof.


Probably the most widely ignored rule ever (check out the number of sheds up
against fences).



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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


And the one at the top of the list here is this one :-

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/d.../d0004149.html

I rest my case. ;-)


From the newsletter of 12 October 2009:

Wordsmith.org

A.Word.A.Day
with Anu Garg

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad
people will find a way around the laws." While there's truth in Plato's
words, most of us fall somewhere between good and bad. And for people in
that spectrum, laws serve as good deterrents.

Like any other profession, the world of law has its own jargon. Even
though legal terms may seem designed to keep laypersons in the dark so
that the lawyers can charge hefty fees, there's a need for them. In a
field where a single word can make a world of difference, a succinct,
and more importantly, unambiguous vocabulary is essential.

May you never have to consult a lawyer (or a barrister, solicitor,
attorney, advocate, or whatever they are called in your land), but it's
good to know some of the legal jargon. This week we'll summons five of
these terms to AWAD.


curtilage

PRONUNCIATION:
(KUR-til-ij)

MEANING:
noun: An area of land encompassing a dwelling and its surrounding yard,
considered as enclosed whether fenced or not.

ETYMOLOGY:
From Old French courtillage, from courtil (garden), from cort (court).
Ultimately from the Indo-European root gher- (to enclose or grasp) that
is also the source of such words as orchard, kindergarten, French jardin
(garden), choir, courteous, Hindi gherna (to surround), yard, and
horticulture.

USAGE:
"Obtaining a licence to step out beyond the curtilage of the site was
critical to the feasibility of this concept."
Rob Gregory; 10 Hills Place; Architects' Journal (London, UK); Sep 10, 2009.

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "john royce"
saying something like:

Can i ask you where you bought a metal shipping container to use as a shed
please?

Ebay, or look up 'shipping containers' in YP.
Pre-xmas last year I could have got a 40' container via ebay, that was
for sale in Essex. For a mere 350quid.
Trouble was, transportation. Not transporting it within the UK, that
would have been relatively cheap; getting it across to Ireland wouldn't
have been.