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Steve September 18th 09 04:13 PM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge tiles as an
alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight movement.. However, I don't
know where to find it - the only non-setting mastic I can find is Plumbers'
Mate - obviously unsuitable!

There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not
'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable non-setting
mastic?

Thanks



Stuart Noble September 18th 09 07:14 PM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
Steve wrote:
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge tiles as an
alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight movement.. However, I don't
know where to find it - the only non-setting mastic I can find is Plumbers'
Mate - obviously unsuitable!

There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not
'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable non-setting
mastic?

Thanks



Butyl glazing compound? UV resistance might be an issue though.

Steve September 18th 09 09:33 PM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
om...
Steve wrote:
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge tiles as
an alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight movement.. However, I
don't know where to find it - the only non-setting mastic I can find is
Plumbers' Mate - obviously unsuitable!

There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not
'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable non-setting
mastic?

Thanks


Butyl glazing compound? UV resistance might be an issue though.


Thanks. Might be OK, but seems designed for glass/metal/wood. Surfaces need
priming -
http://www.everbuild.co.uk/images/pd...20compound.DOC.

Ideally need something that bonds well to tiles/mortar.



Cash September 18th 09 09:43 PM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
Steve wrote:
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge
tiles as an alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight
movement.. However, I don't know where to find it - the only
non-setting mastic I can find is Plumbers' Mate - obviously
unsuitable!
There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not
'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable
non-setting mastic?

Thanks


Steve,

Firstly, as mastic is a sealant and not an adhesive, I wouldn't advise
using it instead of cement for ridge tiles, especially in high-wind areas -
would you use the stuff by itself to fix a door or window frame (wood or
plastic)?

Secondly, whilst "low modulus building mastic" actually sets, if the
thickness of the applied mastic is correct, then there will be sufficient
'flexibility in the bead to maintain the weatherproof seal under all
conditions - and you will only get problems if you use very thin beads of
mastic.

As for your original question, if the ridge tiles are properly packed and
fixed with the correct sand/cement/water ratio, then the tiles will still be
there even after very high winds.

Cash



Steve September 19th 09 08:49 AM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 

"Cash" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge
tiles as an alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight
movement.. However, I don't know where to find it - the only
non-setting mastic I can find is Plumbers' Mate - obviously
unsuitable!
There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not
'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable
non-setting mastic?

Thanks


Steve,

Firstly, as mastic is a sealant and not an adhesive, I wouldn't advise
using it instead of cement for ridge tiles, especially in high-wind
areas - would you use the stuff by itself to fix a door or window frame
(wood or plastic)?

Secondly, whilst "low modulus building mastic" actually sets, if the
thickness of the applied mastic is correct, then there will be sufficient
'flexibility in the bead to maintain the weatherproof seal under all
conditions - and you will only get problems if you use very thin beads of
mastic.

As for your original question, if the ridge tiles are properly packed and
fixed with the correct sand/cement/water ratio, then the tiles will still
be there even after very high winds.

Cash

Thanks Cash. The tiles are held securely by cement and the mastic is only
intended for the edges. I'll probably go with a low modulus mastic.

Steve



[email protected] January 20th 14 03:19 AM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
On Friday, September 18, 2009 4:43:55 PM UTC-4, Cash wrote:
Steve wrote:
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge
tiles as an alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight
movement.. However, I don't know where to find it - the only
non-setting mastic I can find is Plumbers' Mate - obviously
unsuitable!
There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not
'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable
non-setting mastic?

Thanks




Steve,

Firstly, as mastic is a sealant and not an adhesive, I wouldn't advise
using it instead of cement for ridge tiles, especially in high-wind areas -
would you use the stuff by itself to fix a door or window frame (wood or
plastic)?

Secondly, whilst "low modulus building mastic" actually sets, if the
thickness of the applied mastic is correct, then there will be sufficient
'flexibility in the bead to maintain the weatherproof seal under all
conditions - and you will only get problems if you use very thin beads of
mastic.

As for your original question, if the ridge tiles are properly packed and
fixed with the correct sand/cement/water ratio, then the tiles will still be
there even after very high winds.

Cash


Just cams across this. You have to watch out for the acidity of the product. I think that in the old days they would use a coal-tar based product so it may not be an issue nowadays but take a look at non-setting mastic damage and especially how it eats copper roof flashings (about halfway down the page: view-source:http://www.fourseasonsroofingandsidi...eplacement.htm

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Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
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Kipper at sea January 20th 14 09:14 PM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
On Friday, September 18, 2009 4:13:47 PM UTC+1, Steve wrote:
'Non-setting mastic' is sometimes recommended for pointing ridge tiles as an alternative to sand/cement, to allow for slight movement.. However, I don't know where to find it - the only non-setting mastic I can find is Plumbers' Mate - obviously unsuitable!There are plenty of low modulus building mastics but they are not 'non-setting'. Can anyone suggest where I can get a suitable non-setting mastic?Thanks


It comes in a plastic bag and it looks like a mass of small white polystyrene balls the size of pin heads mixed with some form of pink adhesive, texture is like putty density or similar to plasterseen. It never took on to expensive and not very practical.
Never seen it use and when asked at the merchants if they had sold any they just laughed.

Cash January 20th 14 10:51 PM

Non-setting mastic for roof ridge tile pointing
 
Artic wrote:
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On Friday, September 18, 2009 4:43:55 PM UTC-4, Cash wrote:



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Just thinking the same myself - bloody hell I was working for a living then,
as opposed to a life of luxury in retirement now.

How time flies. LOL

Cash




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