Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on an
Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point where
they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the pump off the
machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well aware
of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but if this
was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the wires and then
apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

SS wrote:
Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on
an Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point
where they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the
pump off the machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but
if this was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the
wires and then apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

The wires would only become live during a normal pumping cycle - they
wouldn't normally have power during a wash for example (i am not an
electrician BTW)

get a multimeter if you want to be safe - don't be fannying around with bits
of wire and light bulbs testing if the wires are live or not.

--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 17:07:24 +0100, "SS"
wrote:

Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on an
Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point where
they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the pump off the
machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well aware
of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but if this
was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the wires and then
apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Maplin have mains-testers from under a fiver, multmeters from only a
couple of quid more. You'll work out how to use them.

On Sep 1, 5:07*pm, "SS" wrote:
Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on an
Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point where
they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the pump off the
machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well aware
of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? *OK maybe sounds basic but if this
was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the wires and then
apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

In principle just connect the pump to the mains. But if you dont know
how to use a multimeter I dont know whether recommedng this is a good
plan.

NT

"NT" wrote in message
...
On Sep 1, 5:07 pm, "SS" wrote:
Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on an
Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point where
they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the pump off
the
machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware
of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but if
this
was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the wires and then
apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

In principle just connect the pump to the mains. But if you dont know
how to use a multimeter I dont know whether recommedng this is a good
plan.

NT

Thanks NT,
The way I do things are connect it up - plug in - and switch a quick on/off
from the mains switch.
I am well back from the live end.
I grew up in the days of sticking wires in sockets if we didnt have a plug,
using a screwdriver in the earth to open the other 2 pins!
Haven`t done that for years though :-) and I don`t recommend it.
I have never had the need for a multimeter so never bothered to learn as I
have always worked on low voltage things like 6v & 12v electrics and it was
usually just continuity I was after.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
SS wrote:

Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on
an Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point
where they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the
pump off the machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but
if this was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the
wires and then apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

It's easier to start from the other end. The pump will only be powered at
certain points in the washing cycle, so there's only any point in checking
the supply voltage when you're *certain* that the pump should be running.

So it's easier to start with the pump itself. Chances are that the wires are
connected to it by means of a couple of spade connectors. If so, if you rig
up a cable with a mains plug at one end and spade connectors at the other
end, you should be able to power the pump directly, and see whether it turns
or not.

You have already checked the obvious things, haven't you? Washing machine
pumps sometimes get bits of debris (from clothes, contents of pockets, etc.)
jammed in the blades - preventing them from rotating. There's often a
removeable filter which you can pull out to get at the action - but put a
tray underneath, capable of holding 1/2 a pint or so of water, before
removing the filter.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
SS wrote:

Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on
an Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point
where they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the
pump off the machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but
if this was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the
wires and then apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

It's easier to start from the other end. The pump will only be powered at
certain points in the washing cycle, so there's only any point in checking
the supply voltage when you're *certain* that the pump should be running.

So it's easier to start with the pump itself. Chances are that the wires
are connected to it by means of a couple of spade connectors. If so, if
you rig up a cable with a mains plug at one end and spade connectors at
the other end, you should be able to power the pump directly, and see
whether it turns or not.

You have already checked the obvious things, haven't you? Washing machine
pumps sometimes get bits of debris (from clothes, contents of pockets,
etc.) jammed in the blades - preventing them from rotating. There's often
a removeable filter which you can pull out to get at the action - but put
a tray underneath, capable of holding 1/2 a pint or so of water, before
removing the filter.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
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Roger, I have checked all the rubber hoses and filters and all are clear, I
have dismantled the pump and that looks good and spins ok. I have got the
pump to run when its is in `empty water only` cycle and this is the strange
part.....

With the machine standing upright the pump does not work, if I tilt the
machine over it starts to pump out the water.

I have checked all the spade connectors and they look ok. I have taken the
top cover off and checked for loose connectors, looks ok.
I am ok for emptying the machine in any case as the waste pipe reaches to
the back door and is low enough for the water to just drain out without
pumping..

I think loose wire or connection at or around the pump but damned if I can
find it!

SS has brought this to us :
"NT" wrote in message
...
On Sep 1, 5:07 pm, "SS" wrote:
Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on an
Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point where
they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the pump off the
machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well aware
of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but if this
was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the wires and then
apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

In principle just connect the pump to the mains. But if you dont know
how to use a multimeter I dont know whether recommedng this is a good
plan.

NT

Thanks NT,
The way I do things are connect it up - plug in - and switch a quick on/off
from the mains switch.
I am well back from the live end.
I grew up in the days of sticking wires in sockets if we didnt have a plug,
using a screwdriver in the earth to open the other 2 pins!
Haven`t done that for years though :-) and I don`t recommend it.
I have never had the need for a multimeter so never bothered to learn as I
have always worked on low voltage things like 6v & 12v electrics and it was
usually just continuity I was after.

In that case, if you are competent to use the screwdriver in the earth
trick...

Try connecting a small 240v lamp, in a lampholder with flex across the
pins of the pump. At a 'pump out' stage in the machines cycle, the lamp
should illuminate.

If instead you disconnect all the wiring to the pump and feed it
directly with a 240v supply from perhaps a 13amp suitably fused socket,
the pump should run.

Usually the reason for these pumps not running is that the impeller is
jammed with a coin fluff or similar. You can easily check this by
trying to turn the cooling fan on the motors shaft.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

SS has brought this to us :
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
SS wrote:

Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on
an Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point
where they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the
pump off the machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but
if this was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the
wires and then apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

It's easier to start from the other end. The pump will only be powered at
certain points in the washing cycle, so there's only any point in checking
the supply voltage when you're *certain* that the pump should be running.

So it's easier to start with the pump itself. Chances are that the wires
are connected to it by means of a couple of spade connectors. If so, if you
rig up a cable with a mains plug at one end and spade connectors at the
other end, you should be able to power the pump directly, and see whether
it turns or not.

You have already checked the obvious things, haven't you? Washing machine
pumps sometimes get bits of debris (from clothes, contents of pockets,
etc.) jammed in the blades - preventing them from rotating. There's often a
removeable filter which you can pull out to get at the action - but put a
tray underneath, capable of holding 1/2 a pint or so of water, before
removing the filter.
-- Cheers,
Roger
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monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
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Roger, I have checked all the rubber hoses and filters and all are clear, I
have dismantled the pump and that looks good and spins ok. I have got the
pump to run when its is in `empty water only` cycle and this is the strange
part.....

With the machine standing upright the pump does not work, if I tilt the
machine over it starts to pump out the water.

I have checked all the spade connectors and they look ok. I have taken the
top cover off and checked for loose connectors, looks ok.
I am ok for emptying the machine in any case as the waste pipe reaches to the
back door and is low enough for the water to just drain out without pumping..

I think loose wire or connection at or around the pump but damned if I can
find it!



I wonder...

Usually they just pump more than long enough on a timer, to clear the
water out, but could your machine perhaps have a sensor to check when
the machine is empty?

Look for a thin rubber pipe running up to a small pan shaped object
about 3" diameter, with a couple of wires connected - basically a very
low pressure operated switch. Water rises up the pipe to the switch
which has a diaphragm inside it to trigger a switch. The pipes
sometimes choke up with fluff. Remove the switch end of the pipe and
blow down it and /or flush some water through to clear it.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
k...
SS has brought this to us :
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
SS wrote:

Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on
an Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point
where they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the
pump off the machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but
if this was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the
wires and then apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

It's easier to start from the other end. The pump will only be powered
at certain points in the washing cycle, so there's only any point in
checking the supply voltage when you're *certain* that the pump should
be running.

So it's easier to start with the pump itself. Chances are that the wires
are connected to it by means of a couple of spade connectors. If so, if
you rig up a cable with a mains plug at one end and spade connectors at
the other end, you should be able to power the pump directly, and see
whether it turns or not.

You have already checked the obvious things, haven't you? Washing
machine pumps sometimes get bits of debris (from clothes, contents of
pockets, etc.) jammed in the blades - preventing them from rotating.
There's often a removeable filter which you can pull out to get at the
action - but put a tray underneath, capable of holding 1/2 a pint or so
of water, before removing the filter.
-- Cheers,
Roger
______
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monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
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Roger, I have checked all the rubber hoses and filters and all are clear,
I have dismantled the pump and that looks good and spins ok. I have got
the pump to run when its is in `empty water only` cycle and this is the
strange part.....

With the machine standing upright the pump does not work, if I tilt the
machine over it starts to pump out the water.

I have checked all the spade connectors and they look ok. I have taken
the top cover off and checked for loose connectors, looks ok.
I am ok for emptying the machine in any case as the waste pipe reaches to
the back door and is low enough for the water to just drain out without
pumping..

I think loose wire or connection at or around the pump but damned if I
can find it!



I wonder...

Usually they just pump more than long enough on a timer, to clear the
water out, but could your machine perhaps have a sensor to check when the
machine is empty?

Look for a thin rubber pipe running up to a small pan shaped object about
3" diameter, with a couple of wires connected - basically a very low
pressure operated switch. Water rises up the pipe to the switch which has
a diaphragm inside it to trigger a switch. The pipes sometimes choke up
with fluff. Remove the switch end of the pipe and blow down it and /or
flush some water through to clear it.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Harry, I will check that out tomorrow and post back here with results.

Had an email from a machine repair man and he reckons it is the programme
control switch.
He has had similar probs with this model, he gave me some advice on how to
check it and he appears to be correct.

Thanks to all for input.

"SS" wrote in message
...

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
k...
SS has brought this to us :
"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
SS wrote:

Hi all,
Without going in to all the detail I need to check the pump/power on
an Electrolux washing machine.

I want to check if the power is coming down the wires to the point
where they push onto the pump, if this is ok then I want to take the
pump off the machine and see if it runs ok.
I don`t have a multimeter and don`t know how to use one but I am well
aware of `electricity` and keeping myself safe.

Is there some way I could check this out? OK maybe sounds basic but
if this was a 6 or 12V system I would connect a lightbulb to the
wires and then apply the voltage via a battery to the pump.

Any ideas?
thanks

It's easier to start from the other end. The pump will only be powered
at certain points in the washing cycle, so there's only any point in
checking the supply voltage when you're *certain* that the pump should
be running.

So it's easier to start with the pump itself. Chances are that the
wires are connected to it by means of a couple of spade connectors. If
so, if you rig up a cable with a mains plug at one end and spade
connectors at the other end, you should be able to power the pump
directly, and see whether it turns or not.

You have already checked the obvious things, haven't you? Washing
machine pumps sometimes get bits of debris (from clothes, contents of
pockets, etc.) jammed in the blades - preventing them from rotating.
There's often a removeable filter which you can pull out to get at the
action - but put a tray underneath, capable of holding 1/2 a pint or so
of water, before removing the filter.
-- Cheers,
Roger
______
Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!

Roger, I have checked all the rubber hoses and filters and all are
clear, I have dismantled the pump and that looks good and spins ok. I
have got the pump to run when its is in `empty water only` cycle and
this is the strange part.....

With the machine standing upright the pump does not work, if I tilt the
machine over it starts to pump out the water.

I have checked all the spade connectors and they look ok. I have taken
the top cover off and checked for loose connectors, looks ok.
I am ok for emptying the machine in any case as the waste pipe reaches
to the back door and is low enough for the water to just drain out
without pumping..

I think loose wire or connection at or around the pump but damned if I
can find it!



I wonder...

Usually they just pump more than long enough on a timer, to clear the
water out, but could your machine perhaps have a sensor to check when the
machine is empty?

Look for a thin rubber pipe running up to a small pan shaped object about
3" diameter, with a couple of wires connected - basically a very low
pressure operated switch. Water rises up the pipe to the switch which has
a diaphragm inside it to trigger a switch. The pipes sometimes choke up
with fluff. Remove the switch end of the pipe and blow down it and /or
flush some water through to clear it.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Harry, I will check that out tomorrow and post back here with results.