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Ordered a metal shed about 6 weeks ago..1.52m square (metal)
Order accepted, payment taken...start building timber base.
Nearly finished base when 4 weeks later got the message."shed has been
discontinued"
Luckily..find another metal shed 1.52m x 1.41m and accept this as
replacement.
Order and payment are taken.
I begin changing size of shed base...now 99% complete.
Get call this morning..."this shed has been discontinued"
"FFFFFFFFFF*******^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^KKKKKKKKKKKK"
So now can't find any shed that can be accommodated on the base I have
built.

Sooooo..making the most of a bad situation.
The back yard dividing wall is about 1.7m high with no capping stones
and the back wall is about 2m high with old pointed capping stones on
it.
If I just shove the base into the corner where these walls join and
build 2 walls and a roof from plywood should I use 12mm or 18mm
plywood for the walls?

Any other advice gratefully received.

Thanks.

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Ordered a metal shed about 6 weeks ago..1.52m square (metal)
Order accepted, payment taken...start building timber base.
Nearly finished base when 4 weeks later got the message."shed has been
discontinued"


I think if you post this to uk.legal you'll find it's really THEIR
responsibility to source a replacement, seeing as they took your money
and neglected to tell you for four weeks that they couldn't provide
it...
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:24:01 +0100, Colin Wilson wrote:
I think if you post this to uk.legal you'll find it's really THEIR
responsibility to source a replacement, seeing as they took your money
and neglected to tell you for four weeks that they couldn't provide
it...


But does that replacement have to be an exact size match for the original?


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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:43:07 -0700, Arthur 51 wrote:
Any other advice gratefully received.


a) Go into the shed base business, sell one of your product, then email
all other customers to tell them that your product has been discontinued?

b) There's nothing that an angle grinder can't fix - although it may
require a visit to this company's offices with the aforementioned tool

I think personally if it took them a month just to tell me that they
couldn't provide the thing that I'd ordered, I'd be demanding my money
back and going elsewhere (what was the name of the company, just so folk
can avoid them?)

(on the bright side, at least a base is quick and easy to make - on the
less-bright side, f*cking annoying, time + money etc. Maybe if you have
receipts for materials used you can take the company to court and recover
costs?)

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Seriously, does it have to be metal?

I ask because it will suffer condensation in November+ like an ice-
pack on a humid day. That condensation will be external & internal
dropping off the roof onto anything inside. You can insulate, but most
steel sheds are profile section so it gets fiddly. Can you not do a
wooden shed?

If it comes to it - get some aluminium angle and make a frame, then
clad with that recycled plastic "?farmboard?" cut with a plastic saw.


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can avoid them?)

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Agreed. Name and shame so others are aware.
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Seriously, does it have to be metal?

I ask because it will suffer condensation in November+ like an ice-
pack on a humid day. That condensation will be external & internal
dropping off the roof onto anything inside. You can insulate, but most
steel sheds are profile section so it gets fiddly. Can you not do a
wooden shed?

If it comes to it - get some aluminium angle and make a frame, then
clad with that recycled plastic "?farmboard?" cut with a plastic saw.


Hate to tell you this but I have had a metal shed since 2004 and, so far,
never had condensation problems. Of course there is no heating in there.
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Ordered a metal shed about 6 weeks ago..1.52m square (metal)
Order accepted, payment taken...start building timber base.
Nearly finished base when 4 weeks later got the message."shed has been
discontinued"


I think if you post this to uk.legal you'll find it's really THEIR
responsibility to source a replacement, seeing as they took your money
and neglected to tell you for four weeks that they couldn't provide
it...


By accepting a replacement, Arthur agreed to a variation of the contract to
supply the first shed. However, there would appear to still be a contract to
supply the second shed. That does not mean that the supplier is responsible
for supplying a replacement, but Arthur would have a case for reasonable
damages for the breach of contract, which might be the cost of the base that
he cannot now use. Whether it is worth pursuing that.through the Courts is
another matter.

Colin Bignell


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Colin Wilson wrote:
Ordered a metal shed about 6 weeks ago..1.52m square (metal)
Order accepted, payment taken...start building timber base.
Nearly finished base when 4 weeks later got the message."shed has been
discontinued"


I think if you post this to uk.legal you'll find it's really THEIR
responsibility to source a replacement, seeing as they took your money
and neglected to tell you for four weeks that they couldn't provide
it...


shrug

So they may well be in breach of contract.
Best remedy available will be to get your money back.
I'm sure they wouldn't argue that.

The fact that there are knock-on expenses from the other work that has
been done is 'consequential', and they will probably have no liability
for consequential damages.

Best not pour concrete till you have the shed in your posession.

IMHO, of course.

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Any other advice gratefully received.


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(what was the name of the company, just so folk
can avoid them?)

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Agreed. Name and shame so others are aware.
--
Keith W
Sunbury on Thames
(If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living)


The first company was Internet Gardener failing to supply a 1.52m square
metal shed
for about £137 and taking 4 weeks or so to let me know.
The 2nd company failing was Waltons that took my order and payment for a
1.52m x 1.41m
metal shed and took a week to let know they couldn't. deliver.
I've had both payments fully refunded.
As suggested in my original post I will shove the base into the corner of
the yard. and screw some cls to the walls
and fix some plywood to it. Bang on a roof and bobs me uncle.
It was always intended as a temporary solution to a storage problem hence
not using a
concrete base.

Thanks.

Arthur

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Seriously, does it have to be metal?

I ask because it will suffer condensation in November+ like an ice-
pack on a humid day. That condensation will be external & internal
dropping off the roof onto anything inside. You can insulate, but most
steel sheds are profile section so it gets fiddly. Can you not do a
wooden shed?

If it comes to it - get some aluminium angle and make a frame, then
clad with that recycled plastic "?farmboard?" cut with a plastic saw.


Hate to tell you this but I have had a metal shed since 2004 and, so far,
never had condensation problems. Of course there is no heating in there.


If you are beside the Thames, then that is why you have not suffered
from condensation. You are in a dry part of the UK.

If you lived a lot further North, like Lancashire, or Yorkshire, where
cotton and wool made a fortune for the mill owners because of the damp
atmosphere, your shed would suffer lots of condensation, regrettably.

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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:24:01 +0100, Colin Wilson
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Ordered a metal shed about 6 weeks ago..1.52m square (metal)
Order accepted, payment taken...start building timber base.
Nearly finished base when 4 weeks later got the message."shed has been
discontinued"


I think if you post this to uk.legal you'll find it's really THEIR
responsibility to source a replacement, seeing as they took your money
and neglected to tell you for four weeks that they couldn't provide
it...


(Late I know). uk.legal is moderated - and in my experience - s l o
w!


uk.legal isn't moderated.

uk.legal.moderated is moderated.

The titles give it away...


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Sooooo..making the most of a bad situation.
The back yard dividing wall is about 1.7m high with no capping stones
and the back wall is about 2m high with old pointed capping stones on
it.
If I just shove the base into the corner where these walls join and
build 2 walls and a roof from plywood should I use 12mm or 18mm
plywood for the walls?

Any other advice gratefully received.


You may fall foul of Building Regulations if you use your boundary walls to
build a shed.

Latest regs. seem to require the shed to be at least 0.5 metres from any
boundary.

Your local Building Control Officer should be able to advise you if you want
to check.

Don't know how worried BC will be about a small shed against a wall, though,
as it is unlikely to be a nuisance or fire risk to your neighbours, which
seems to be the main thrust of the legislation.

However, best to check before you decide what to do.

HTH
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:10:00 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:

Colin Wilson wrote:
Ordered a metal shed about 6 weeks ago..1.52m square (metal)
Order accepted, payment taken...start building timber base.
Nearly finished base when 4 weeks later got the message."shed has been
discontinued"


I think if you post this to uk.legal you'll find it's really THEIR
responsibility to source a replacement, seeing as they took your money
and neglected to tell you for four weeks that they couldn't provide
it...


shrug

So they may well be in breach of contract.
Best remedy available will be to get your money back.
I'm sure they wouldn't argue that.

The fact that there are knock-on expenses from the other work that has
been done is 'consequential', and they will probably have no liability
for consequential damages.

Best not pour concrete till you have the shed in your posession.

IMHO, of course.


I'd agree, but with many shed suppliers, erection is an option, in which
case you have to have the base ready for them on delivery day - in this
case there would be a better chance of hitting them for any additional
costs.

SteveW


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