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Donwill[_3_] August 10th 09 03:20 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.
Any ideas?
Don

Neil[_9_] August 10th 09 03:25 PM

Perspex adhesive
 

"Donwill" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a small
acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of that
this day and age.
Any ideas?
Don


You should be able to get some suitable adhesive from your local sign shop.




BigWallop[_2_] August 10th 09 04:45 PM

Perspex adhesive
 

"Donwill" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.
Any ideas?
Don


Ask your local pharmacist for help. They may be able to get you a small
bottle. You do have to sign a legal document for it now-a-days, though, to
prevent you from using such chemicals in an illegal manner. But you should
be able to get it from the friendly chemists shop.




Dave W[_2_] August 11th 09 05:07 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
There's a model shop near me (Stoneleigh, Surrey) which sells small
bottles of plastic weld fluid, which sticks many types including
Perspex. You position the two bits you want to join together, and
apply this very thin liquid to the join so that it wicks into the gap.
It works well, and presumably is available in other parts of the
country. It says it contains Methyl Chloride. I didn't have to sign
anything.

Dave W

NT[_2_] August 11th 09 07:09 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
On Aug 10, 3:20*pm, Donwill wrote:
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.


ha, no. Its diy makable but I dont remember how. And not a great
choice. Can you really not find acetone?


NT

Any ideas?
Don


Harry Bloomfield[_3_] August 11th 09 07:21 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
BigWallop has brought this to us :
"Donwill" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.
Any ideas?
Don


Ask your local pharmacist for help. They may be able to get you a small
bottle. You do have to sign a legal document for it now-a-days, though, to
prevent you from using such chemicals in an illegal manner. But you should
be able to get it from the friendly chemists shop.


Needing to solve a similar problem myself, I attempted to obtain some.
The chemists do not seem to stock it all and would have to get it in
specially and it is not available without prescription.

So I then looked for a alternatives and found http://bondrite.co.uk/

To weld acrylic (which is also Perspex) they recommend WC102 which is
£5 delivered, for a 20gm bottle including applicator.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk



Donwill[_3_] August 12th 09 08:34 AM

Perspex adhesive
 
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
BigWallop has brought this to us :
"Donwill" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.
Any ideas?
Don


Ask your local pharmacist for help. They may be able to get you a small
bottle. You do have to sign a legal document for it now-a-days,
though, to
prevent you from using such chemicals in an illegal manner. But you
should
be able to get it from the friendly chemists shop.


Needing to solve a similar problem myself, I attempted to obtain some.
The chemists do not seem to stock it all and would have to get it in
specially and it is not available without prescription.

So I then looked for a alternatives and found http://bondrite.co.uk/

To weld acrylic (which is also Perspex) they recommend WC102 which is
£5 delivered, for a 20gm bottle including applicator.

Thanks for that, have ordered some.
Cheers
Don

Donwill[_3_] August 12th 09 08:43 AM

Perspex adhesive
 
NT wrote:
On Aug 10, 3:20 pm, Donwill wrote:

I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.


ha, no. Its diy makable but I dont remember how. And not a great
choice. Can you really not find acetone?


NT



AFAIA, Acetone is not a solvent for Methyl Methacrylate (perspex,
acrylic, plexiglas, etc)
Don

NT[_2_] August 12th 09 10:58 AM

Perspex adhesive
 
On Aug 12, 8:43*am, Donwill wrote:
NT wrote:
On Aug 10, 3:20 pm, Donwill wrote:


I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.


ha, no. Its diy makable but I dont remember how. And not a great
choice. Can you really not find acetone?


NT


AFAIA, Acetone is not a solvent for Methyl Methacrylate (perspex,
acrylic, plexiglas, etc)
Don


I'm pretty sure it is.


NT

Andrew Gabriel August 12th 09 01:16 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
In article ,
"BigWallop" writes:

"Donwill" wrote in message
...
I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.
Any ideas?
Don


Ask your local pharmacist for help. They may be able to get you a small
bottle. You do have to sign a legal document for it now-a-days, though, to
prevent you from using such chemicals in an illegal manner. But you should
be able to get it from the friendly chemists shop.


I have found Cyanoacrylate works well with perspex.
It appears to solvent weld it, as well as polymerising.
With care, you can bond two transparent pieces together
with the bond being invisible when you look through it,
and if you pull it apart, the perspex breaks before the
bond separates.

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] August 12th 09 06:25 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
Donwill wrote:
NT wrote:
On Aug 10, 3:20 pm, Donwill wrote:

I'm trying to purchase a small quantity of acrylic cement to bond a
small acrylic tube to some rod.
In the past I've used Chloroform but I don't suppose I can get any of
that this day and age.


ha, no. Its diy makable but I dont remember how. And not a great
choice. Can you really not find acetone?


NT


AFAIA, Acetone is not a solvent for Methyl Methacrylate (perspex,
acrylic, plexiglas, etc)
Don


No, I don't think it is.


Not sure that methyl chloride is either, or methyly ethyl ketone..or
Xylene..

These all work with ABS, styrene and PVC though. I THINK.

Acetone dissolves super glue..one of the few things that does.


Dave W[_2_] August 13th 09 10:55 AM

Perspex adhesive
 
On 12 Aug, 13:16, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
I have found Cyanoacrylate works well with perspex.
It appears to solvent weld it, as well as polymerising.
With care, you can bond two transparent pieces together
with the bond being invisible when you look through it,
and if you pull it apart, the perspex breaks before the
bond separates.

I was amazed at your claim. I haven't any superglue in the house, but
do have a bottle of Loctite SuperGlue3 remover dated 1994. I tried
this and it worked as you describe after an hour or so!

Dave W


Dave W[_2_] August 13th 09 11:00 AM

Perspex adhesive
 
On 11 Aug, 17:07, Dave W wrote:
There's a model shop near me (Stoneleigh, Surrey) which sells small
bottles of plastic weld fluid, which sticks many types including
Perspex. You position the two bits you want to join together, and
apply this very thin liquid to the join so that it wicks into the gap.
It *works well, and presumably is available in other parts of the
country. It says it contains Methyl Chloride. I didn't have to sign
anything.

Dave W


For completeness, here is what's on the label:

EMA Plastic Weld
For styrene, butyrate, ABS, acrylic, Perspex.
EMA Model Supplies Ltd.
Unit 2, Shepperton Business Park
Govett Ave.
Shepperton
TW17 8BA
(01932) 228 228


Dave W

Andrew Gabriel August 13th 09 04:48 PM

Perspex adhesive
 
In article ,
Dave W writes:
On 12 Aug, 13:16, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
I have found Cyanoacrylate works well with perspex.
It appears to solvent weld it, as well as polymerising.
With care, you can bond two transparent pieces together
with the bond being invisible when you look through it,
and if you pull it apart, the perspex breaks before the
bond separates.

I was amazed at your claim. I haven't any superglue in the house, but
do have a bottle of Loctite SuperGlue3 remover dated 1994. I tried
this and it worked as you describe after an hour or so!


I guess the SuperGlue3 remover is just acetone.
As perspex dissolves in acetone, this is probably
simply a solvent weld you are producing.

Cyanoacrylate polymerises into an acrylic resin,
not dissimilar to perspex, so the mechanism
of the bond is different with Cyanoacrylate.
(Having read up some more, I suspect I was wrong
about Cyanoacrylate solvent welding perspex, as
it's not in a solvent. It forms a similar acrylic
polymer to perspex, and most likely is that the
polymer directly bonds to the perspex polymer
surface.)

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]


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