Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised
I'd left my hacksaw at my brother's place. Then recalled that I'd
added a hacksaw onto a CPC order to bump it up to minimum free P&P.
Went to dig it out, and found I'd done this twice, so I've got a
brand new 12" hacksaw and a brand new junior hacksaw.

Started with the 12" hacksaw, being a substantial piece of tubular
steel I'm sawing through. Ping! -- second stroke and the new blade
pings in half -- sod it, no spares. Oh well, unwrap the junior
hacksaw, and at least that comes with a bundle of spare blades.
Check blade is in right way, etc, and start sawing. Nothing
happens. Have another look at the blade, and now the two edges are
indistinguishable -- absolutely no sign of any teeth left whatsoever.
At least the bundle of spare blades are a different colour, so they
might do better. Try to fit one into the junior hacksaw -- won't go
because the slots for the pins on the blade ends are much too small.
Now if only I had a hacksaw, I could widen them...

Of course, it's 11pm, so nowhere is going to be open. Next morning,
walk around to local hardware store and pick up a few 12" blades,
and the first one goes right through the steel tube like a knife
through butter.

Yes, I know, "should have used an angle grinder"!

--
Andrew Gabriel
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"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
.. .
Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised
I'd left my hacksaw at my brother's place. Then recalled that I'd
added a hacksaw onto a CPC order to bump it up to minimum free P&P.
Went to dig it out, and found I'd done this twice, so I've got a
brand new 12" hacksaw and a brand new junior hacksaw.

Started with the 12" hacksaw, being a substantial piece of tubular
steel I'm sawing through. Ping! -- second stroke and the new blade
pings in half --



Quite common with an all hard blade in unskilled hands.
They allow better precision in the right hands but I always break them too.
It really does only take a slight twist to break them.
I assume you bought some flexible blades so they don't break.

In article ,
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
Started with the 12" hacksaw, being a substantial piece of tubular
steel I'm sawing through. Ping! -- second stroke and the new blade
pings in half -- sod it, no spares. Oh well, unwrap the junior
hacksaw, and at least that comes with a bundle of spare blades.
Check blade is in right way, etc, and start sawing. Nothing
happens. Have another look at the blade, and now the two edges are
indistinguishable -- absolutely no sign of any teeth left whatsoever.
At least the bundle of spare blades are a different colour, so they
might do better. Try to fit one into the junior hacksaw -- won't go
because the slots for the pins on the blade ends are much too small.
Now if only I had a hacksaw, I could widen them...

Of course, it's 11pm, so nowhere is going to be open. Next morning,
walk around to local hardware store and pick up a few 12" blades,
and the first one goes right through the steel tube like a knife
through butter.

It's a bit of a fine line between blades which are hard enough for a long
life and don't break too easily. There are probably expensive ones with
different steel etc for the teeth and blade.

--
*Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

It's a bit of a fine line...

No longer necessary to compromise:

http://tinyurl.com/mafgxm

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/78811/...00mm-Pack-of-2

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:57:10 -0700 (PDT), RubberBiker wrote:

It's a bit of a fine line...

No longer necessary to compromise:

http://tinyurl.com/mafgxm

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/78811/...00mm-Pack-of-2

Yes, they've been bi-metal for some time now. Trouble is, the all-hard ones
were good for 'special' knives - I've several of different shapes, but the
bi-metal ones don't hold an edge so well.

I bought some cheap blades, then found that I had a piece of steel tube
that had been specially made for smoothing the blades.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

On 31 July, 12:21, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

It's a bit of a fine line between blades which are hard enough for a long
life and don't break too easily.

That "fine line" is an e-beam weld. There's no point in using any
hacksaw blade these days exccept bimetal ones, and all-hard for some
accurate bench work (You still need three+ blades to spread the tooth
sizes, and you might as well do that in three dedicated frames).

There are probably expensive ones with
different steel etc for the teeth and blade.

Except that they're cheap, and about 30 years old. I used to take my
own one in to school metalwork lessons, which was O levels back then,
so it was a fair while ago.

PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:57:10 -0700 (PDT), RubberBiker wrote:

It's a bit of a fine line...
No longer necessary to compromise:

http://tinyurl.com/mafgxm

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/78811/...00mm-Pack-of-2

Yes, they've been bi-metal for some time now. Trouble is, the all-hard ones
were good for 'special' knives - I've several of different shapes, but the
bi-metal ones don't hold an edge so well.

I bought some cheap blades, then found that I had a piece of steel tube
that had been specially made for smoothing the blades.

These are handy tools

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/36273/...24Tpi-12-300mm

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:14:45 GMT, Stuart Noble wrote:

PeterC wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:57:10 -0700 (PDT), RubberBiker wrote:

It's a bit of a fine line...
No longer necessary to compromise:

http://tinyurl.com/mafgxm

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/78811/...00mm-Pack-of-2

Yes, they've been bi-metal for some time now. Trouble is, the all-hard ones
were good for 'special' knives - I've several of different shapes, but the
bi-metal ones don't hold an edge so well.

I bought some cheap blades, then found that I had a piece of steel tube
that had been specially made for smoothing the blades.

These are handy tools

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/36273/...24Tpi-12-300mm

A sort-of-supported pad saw, but not sure about the blade in as shown.
Could help with some jobs. I might make something similar to try it out.
If I do need to push a blade with a pad saw, I try to use part of a broken
one, where the end teeth are still unworn, on the grounds that I'll prolly
break it.
--
Peter.
The head of a pin will hold more angels if
it's been flattened with an angel-grinder.

"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
...
On 31 July, 12:21, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

It's a bit of a fine line between blades which are hard enough for a long
life and don't break too easily.

That "fine line" is an e-beam weld. There's no point in using any
hacksaw blade these days exccept bimetal ones, and all-hard for some
accurate bench work (You still need three+ blades to spread the tooth
sizes, and you might as well do that in three dedicated frames).

There are probably expensive ones with
different steel etc for the teeth and blade.

Except that they're cheap, and about 30 years old. I used to take my
own one in to school metalwork lessons, which was O levels back then,
so it was a fair while ago.

My Pound Shop hacksaw has teeth with a very strange shape - difficult to
tell which way they are pointing - and the pins are tool big for the slots.

Dave Plowman (News) explained :
It's a bit of a fine line between blades which are hard enough for a long
life and don't break too easily. There are probably expensive ones with
different steel etc for the teeth and blade.

There are, but they tend to start to split at the teeth.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

pings in half -- sod it, no spares. Oh well, unwrap the junior
hacksaw, and at least that comes with a bundle of spare blades.
Check blade is in right way, etc, and start sawing. Nothing
happens. Have another look at the blade, and now the two edges are
indistinguishable -- absolutely no sign of any teeth left whatsoever.
At least the bundle of spare blades are a different colour, so they
might do better. Try to fit one into the junior hacksaw -- won't go
because the slots for the pins on the blade ends are much too small.

Yes, had a junior plus blade exactly like this in a recent "toolbox plus
tools" offer; I forget where from, maybe screwfix?. Curiously, the other
tools in the kit are more than adequate.

On 31 Jul 2009 10:10:52 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised

tut. I thought you'd found somewhere selling chocolate hacksaws.
;-/
--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

mogga wrote:
On 31 Jul 2009 10:10:52 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised

tut. I thought you'd found somewhere selling chocolate hacksaws.
;-/

Ye can get pink hacksaws, so chocolate can't be far

http://www.tomboytools.co.uk/showprod.php?id=69


Oh, here we go ...

http://www.chocolatevault.com/plumbing.htm

--
Adrian C

In article ,
Adrian C writes:
mogga wrote:
On 31 Jul 2009 10:10:52 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised

tut. I thought you'd found somewhere selling chocolate hacksaws.
;-/

Ye can get pink hacksaws, so chocolate can't be far

http://www.tomboytools.co.uk/showprod.php?id=69


Oh, here we go ...

http://www.chocolatevault.com/plumbing.htm

No spare blades available, but you have to buy 6 hacksaws...

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

In message , Adrian C
writes
mogga wrote:
On 31 Jul 2009 10:10:52 GMT, (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised
tut. I thought you'd found somewhere selling chocolate hacksaws.
;-/

Ye can get pink hacksaws, so chocolate can't be far

http://www.tomboytools.co.uk/showprod.php?id=69


Oh, here we go ...

http://www.chocolatevault.com/plumbing.htm

That'll be Drivel stuck in the toilets for a good few hours ...

--
bumsnase

"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
.. .
Needed to hacksaw an inch off a TV mounting bracket, and realised
I'd left my hacksaw at my brother's place. Then recalled that I'd
added a hacksaw onto a CPC order to bump it up to minimum free P&P.
Went to dig it out, and found I'd done this twice, so I've got a
brand new 12" hacksaw and a brand new junior hacksaw.

Started with the 12" hacksaw, being a substantial piece of tubular
steel I'm sawing through. Ping! -- second stroke and the new blade
pings in half -- sod it, no spares. Oh well, unwrap the junior
hacksaw, and at least that comes with a bundle of spare blades.
Check blade is in right way, etc, and start sawing. Nothing
happens. Have another look at the blade, and now the two edges are
indistinguishable -- absolutely no sign of any teeth left whatsoever.
At least the bundle of spare blades are a different colour, so they
might do better. Try to fit one into the junior hacksaw -- won't go
because the slots for the pins on the blade ends are much too small.
Now if only I had a hacksaw, I could widen them...

Of course, it's 11pm, so nowhere is going to be open. Next morning,
walk around to local hardware store and pick up a few 12" blades,
and the first one goes right through the steel tube like a knife
through butter.

Yes, I know, "should have used an angle grinder"!


Interesting you calling them chocolate, I always reckoned those
useless screwdriver sets you used to get in fancy-goods shops
were made of creme cheese.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 19:36:12 +0100, Graham. wrote:

Interesting you calling them chocolate, I always reckoned those
useless screwdriver sets you used to get in fancy-goods shops
were made of creme cheese.

Naw, they are made from toffee.

The orginal post content refers to these hacksaws as "chocolate
teapots", look good but no use what so ever for the intended purpose.

--
Cheers
Dave.