outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Hi there, I have a bit of a mystery...
we've just tried to turn off our water from the stop cock near our property boundary. Lifted the lid, the hole was full of mud (as you would expect) but we excavated, found the tap, turned it clockwise until it reached the end... and absolutely NO effect on water pressure in our house (or next door who share our mains from the street). We even tried turning fully the other way, and still no effect. There are no other visible signs of a stop cock outside. The around the house back and front is old concrete and the stop cock we tried had been carefully concreted around so we assumed that was the one. We can turn off our water at the inside stop cock obviously, but there might be a reason to need to turn off further back. I'm completely puzzled by this... any suggestions anyone? |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Unless I am mistaken, those tap operate like a 90 degrees toggle - i.e.
assuming water in on. Choose a direction (say clockwise), turn 90 degrees and water is off. Turn 90 degrees again, and water is on again, etc. "Clare" wrote in message ... Hi there, I have a bit of a mystery... we've just tried to turn off our water from the stop cock near our property boundary. Lifted the lid, the hole was full of mud (as you would expect) but we excavated, found the tap, turned it clockwise until it reached the end... and absolutely NO effect on water pressure in our house (or next door who share our mains from the street). We even tried turning fully the other way, and still no effect. There are no other visible signs of a stop cock outside. The around the house back and front is old concrete and the stop cock we tried had been carefully concreted around so we assumed that was the one. We can turn off our water at the inside stop cock obviously, but there might be a reason to need to turn off further back. I'm completely puzzled by this... any suggestions anyone? |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
On 18 July, 16:27, "JoeJoe" wrote:
Unless I am mistaken, those tap operate like a 90 degrees toggle - i.e. assuming water in on. Choose a direction (say clockwise), turn 90 degrees and water is off. Turn 90 degrees again, and water is on again, etc. Thanks Joe, your idea sounded promising so have given it a go, but I'm afraid still no change. |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
"Clare" wrote in message ... On 18 July, 16:27, "JoeJoe" wrote: Unless I am mistaken, those tap operate like a 90 degrees toggle - i.e. assuming water in on. Choose a direction (say clockwise), turn 90 degrees and water is off. Turn 90 degrees again, and water is on again, etc. Thanks Joe, your idea sounded promising so have given it a go, but I'm afraid still no change. I once looked into my stop tap hole and could only see mud. I poked about and couldn't find anything - called the water board and they came out - cleaned the mud tested the tap and sent me a £10 (I think) rebate off my bill because they were later than they said. |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
"Clare" wrote in message ... On 18 July, 16:27, "JoeJoe" wrote: Unless I am mistaken, those tap operate like a 90 degrees toggle - i.e. assuming water in on. Choose a direction (say clockwise), turn 90 degrees and water is off. Turn 90 degrees again, and water is on again, etc. Thanks Joe, your idea sounded promising so have given it a go, but I'm afraid still no change. Not in my experience for water (although it would be for gas). My guess is that the rubber washer has long since disappeared. A plumber might be able to freeze it and then just replace the "removable" part. |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
In message
, Clare writes Hi there, I have a bit of a mystery... we've just tried to turn off our water from the stop cock near our property boundary. Lifted the lid, the hole was full of mud (as you would expect) but we excavated, found the tap, turned it clockwise until it reached the end... and absolutely NO effect on water pressure in our house (or next door who share our mains from the street). We even tried turning fully the other way, and still no effect. If there are any other houses around, turn off the tap and wait to see who complains. On one site I know of a stopcock in front of the house leads to a pipe that runs under the house, down the garden and into a house on the other side of the block. The two buildings were once part of the same builder's business. -- Bernard Peek |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
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outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Bernard Peek wrote :
In message , Clare writes Hi there, I have a bit of a mystery... we've just tried to turn off our water from the stop cock near our property boundary. Lifted the lid, the hole was full of mud (as you would expect) but we excavated, found the tap, turned it clockwise until it reached the end... and absolutely NO effect on water pressure in our house (or next door who share our mains from the street). We even tried turning fully the other way, and still no effect. If there are any other houses around, turn off the tap and wait to see who complains. On one site I know of a stopcock in front of the house leads to a pipe that runs under the house, down the garden and into a house on the other side of the block. The two buildings were once part of the same builder's business. Turn taps on inside the house, find a bit of steel rod to place on top of stop tap and you should be able to hear the sound of your water flowing through it. No sound probably means it is not your stop tap. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Bernard Peek wrote : In message , Clare writes Hi there, I have a bit of a mystery... we've just tried to turn off our water from the stop cock near our property boundary. Lifted the lid, the hole was full of mud (as you would expect) but we excavated, found the tap, turned it clockwise until it reached the end... and absolutely NO effect on water pressure in our house (or next door who share our mains from the street). We even tried turning fully the other way, and still no effect. If there are any other houses around, turn off the tap and wait to see who complains. On one site I know of a stopcock in front of the house leads to a pipe that runs under the house, down the garden and into a house on the other side of the block. The two buildings were once part of the same builder's business. Turn taps on inside the house, find a bit of steel rod to place on top of stop tap and you should be able to hear the sound of your water flowing through it. No sound probably means it is not your stop tap. I wouldn't speculate. Just ring the water company and tell them you can't turn your water off. That's your |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Bernard Peek wrote : In message , Clare writes Hi there, I have a bit of a mystery... we've just tried to turn off our water from the stop cock near our property boundary. Lifted the lid, the hole was full of mud (as you would expect) but we excavated, found the tap, turned it clockwise until it reached the end... and absolutely NO effect on water pressure in our house (or next door who share our mains from the street). We even tried turning fully the other way, and still no effect. If there are any other houses around, turn off the tap and wait to see who complains. On one site I know of a stopcock in front of the house leads to a pipe that runs under the house, down the garden and into a house on the other side of the block. The two buildings were once part of the same builder's business. Turn taps on inside the house, find a bit of steel rod to place on top of stop tap and you should be able to hear the sound of your water flowing through it. No sound probably means it is not your stop tap. "that's your right" I meant to say. Bloody cat walked over the keyboard |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Dave wrote:
wrote: On 18 Jul, "newshound" wrote: Not in my experience for water (although it would be for gas). My guess is that the rubber washer has long since disappeared. A plumber might be able to freeze it and then just replace the "removable" part. Surely up to /and/ /including/ the external stop tap is the responsibility of the water authority. As I wrote in another thread, our new water meter has been fitted after the in house stop tap. So the water authority are responsible for the feed from the street tap right up to our in house shut off tap. :-) Interesting. I wonder if that's official procedure now. The old system always left a difficult bit between the property boundary and the internal stopcock |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Thanks guys,
we've just tried Harry's ingenious listening with a metal rod trick and *can* hear something when we turn our taps on (finally feel we're getting to the bottom of this!) so looks like it is our stop cock and will get onto the water board tomorrow to have them come fix it. |
outside stop cock doesn't stop water when turned.
Clare wrote:
Thanks guys, we've just tried Harry's ingenious listening with a metal rod trick and *can* hear something when we turn our taps on He can also tell which way the Apaches went & how long ago... :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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