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I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at
screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin -- Martin Carroll |
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On Jul 16, 7:55*am, Martin Carroll wrote:
I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. *They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin -- Martin Carroll Toolstation have acrylic frame sealers from £1.16. A |
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"Martin Carroll" wrote in message I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin My comment would be to know exactly what you are using. If you are intending to use white, make sure you get some tried and tested product with plenty of testimony from this group or elsewhere. The company that fitted our front door have a good local reputation - they used brown sealant on a white frame claiming that it wouldn't discolout like the white alternative. Sounds like a strange choice, but looks OK IMO. Sorry can't give you a specific trade name to use, but I would avoid cheap unless you have a better reason than cost to use it. Scraping out metres of discoloured sealer 2 years hence will certainly make it false economy. Phil |
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TheScullster wrote: If you are intending to use white, make sure you get some tried and tested product with plenty of testimony from this group or elsewhere. The company that fitted our front door have a good local reputation - they used brown sealant on a white frame claiming that it wouldn't discolout like the white alternative. Sounds like a strange choice, but looks OK IMO. Sorry can't give you a specific trade name to use, but I would avoid cheap unless you have a better reason than cost to use it. Scraping out metres of discoloured sealer 2 years hence will certainly make it false economy. I fitted a UPVC window and patio doors from Screwfix to the kitchen some ten years ago and sealed with white silicone. It may have mellowed slightly but still looks ok. Not that there are great wads of it - I made up some 'shuttering' and used mortar to true up the walls to the side of the opening so there was a nice smooth edge to the opening leaving the required clearance. -- *Why do the two "sanction"s (noun and verb) mean opposites?* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Martin Carroll wrote:
I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin I needed this doing, and the bloke used what looks like mortar mix. That's how it's usually done, he explained. And that's probably why it usually needs redoing ;-) Rob |
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Rob wrote: Martin Carroll wrote: I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin I needed this doing, and the bloke used what looks like mortar mix. That's how it's usually done, he explained. And that's probably why it usually needs redoing ;-) It's the way the instructions said with mine from Screwfix, IIRC. Fill the gap twixt frame and wall with foam, then run a mortar fillet (a bit like pointing) round the edge, and seal between it and the frame with silicone. That's for a window mounted flush to the outside. I removed some of the foam on the 'outside' to give a reasonable depth for the mortar. But I can imagine a pro wanting a faster method. Rob -- *If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Martin Carroll wrote:
They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Not directly comparable, but I bought some of their "No Nonsense" parcel tape and it was utterly, utterly pathetic. Put me off buying anything else in that range and drove home the point that people will produce things down to a price no matter how useless it makes them. -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On Jul 16, 8:38*am, Adrian Brentnall wrote:
Might be worth dropping in to your local replacement window place (the workshop, not the showroom (yellow pages) and seeing if they'll sell you a case of the stuff that they use.... Our local independent double glazing outfit uses Siroflex Silicone which is a brand that Toolstation sells. I wouldn't use acrylic outside. But having used it once in a kitchen, I wouldn't use it inside either. |
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Scott M wrote:
Martin Carroll wrote: They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Not directly comparable, but I bought some of their "No Nonsense" parcel tape and it was utterly, utterly pathetic. Put me off buying anything else in that range and drove home the point that people will produce things down to a price no matter how useless it makes them. I use No Nonsense grab adhesive and its excellent. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:55:42 +0100, Martin Carroll wrote:
I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin ========================================= A mortar fillet can look much neater than gunned sealants and it's really quite durable. It needs a bit of practice to get it looking perfect but the end result looks much better than sealant. Cic. -- ========================================== Using Ubuntu Linux Windows shown the door ========================================== |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Rob wrote: Martin Carroll wrote: I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin I needed this doing, and the bloke used what looks like mortar mix. That's how it's usually done, he explained. And that's probably why it usually needs redoing ;-) It's the way the instructions said with mine from Screwfix, IIRC. Fill the gap twixt frame and wall with foam, then run a mortar fillet (a bit like pointing) round the edge, and seal between it and the frame with silicone. That's for a window mounted flush to the outside. I removed some of the foam on the 'outside' to give a reasonable depth for the mortar. But I can imagine a pro wanting a faster method. Ah, OK, maybe he did that. Actually and in fairness it does look neat and more in keeping with the stone fronted house. He came recommended via a local Sheffield forum as someone who'd done done work on conservation projects. £200 for all the front windows and door, and about a third of the pointing at the front, including scaffold. Pretty happy all told. Rob |
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"Martin Carroll" wrote in message ... I have about a dozen window frames plus 3 doors to seal and looking at screwfix the named sealants are in excess of £4.50 each. They do sell a "No Nonsense" acrylic sealer for £2.99 and a water-based "weather resistant" one for £1.35. Anyone tried the cheaper ones and have any comments to make? Cheers Martin -- Martin Carroll Are the frames plastic or timber? - AFAIK the use of a polysulphide sealant is recommended for timber. PeterK |
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Cicero wrote:
A mortar fillet can look much neater than gunned sealants and it's really quite durable. It needs a bit of practice to get it looking perfect but the end result looks much better than sealant. Cic. Can you get "textured acrylic" in cartridges? Beige/grey sealant with added sand that looked like cement could be useful for minor repointing and other small jobs, would have an indefinite shelf-life, and would need so much practice to get right. The few times I've tried to use mortar fillets they've shrunk or cracked and fallen out. -- Reentrant |
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Reentrant wrote: Can you get "textured acrylic" in cartridges? Beige/grey sealant with added sand that looked like cement could be useful for minor repointing and other small jobs, would have an indefinite shelf-life, and would need so much practice to get right. The few times I've tried to use mortar fillets they've shrunk or cracked and fallen out. Then you're not doing it right since it's just like pointing. -- *It's lonely at the top, but you eat better. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Cicero wrote:
A mortar fillet can look much neater than gunned sealants and it's really quite durable. It needs a bit of practice to get it looking perfect but the end result looks much better than sealant. Greed but it does leak and lead to rot of the frame and it cracks as the wood "breathes". I've had good results in the past with a mortar fillet sealed with transparent silicone. Other than that, Sikaflex for the expensive route, MSP sealants (grey or white only) for fcheapskates like me. |
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Steve Firth wrote: A mortar fillet can look much neater than gunned sealants and it's really quite durable. It needs a bit of practice to get it looking perfect but the end result looks much better than sealant. Greed but it does leak and lead to rot of the frame and it cracks as the wood "breathes". I've had good results in the past with a mortar fillet sealed with transparent silicone. But it shouldn't actually touch the wood - just the bricks. I used some thin wood strip as a spacer to give a nice neat gap - actually a venetian blind blade. ;-) And then seal between it and the frame with silicone or a paintable sealer if the frame is to be painted. -- *If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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