Hello,

I have just removed the wallpaper ready to redecorate. It looks as
though at some point in the past (1) the plaster was painted. At a
later point, (2) the paint must have been papered over. Then this
paper was (3) removed and took half of the paint off with it. It seems
whoever lived here at the time then (4) emulsioned over the wall and
(5) papered on top. I have just removed this paper.

I am concerned that the jagged patches of paint from (2) and (3) will
show through my new paper. I think the new paper is much thinner that
what I have taken off and I know from using it in other parts of the
house, it is not very tolerant of anything left on the wall behind it.

I'm thinking that lining the wall with lining paper might be the
easiest way forward. What do you think? Is there another way to remove
the paint (2) under the paint (4)?

I was wondering whether it could sand off, but that would take longer
than lining it, I think.

I'm not sure a wire brush and the group favorite: angle grinder, would
help as it might be too harsh and damage the plaster too.

I can't steam it effectively because the jagged paint is underneath a
second coat of paint.

Thanks in advance,
Stephen.

Stephen coughed up some electrons that declared:

Hello,

I have just removed the wallpaper ready to redecorate. It looks as
though at some point in the past (1) the plaster was painted. At a
later point, (2) the paint must have been papered over. Then this
paper was (3) removed and took half of the paint off with it. It seems
whoever lived here at the time then (4) emulsioned over the wall and
(5) papered on top. I have just removed this paper.

I am concerned that the jagged patches of paint from (2) and (3) will
show through my new paper. I think the new paper is much thinner that
what I have taken off and I know from using it in other parts of the
house, it is not very tolerant of anything left on the wall behind it.

I'm thinking that lining the wall with lining paper might be the
easiest way forward. What do you think? Is there another way to remove
the paint (2) under the paint (4)?

I was wondering whether it could sand off, but that would take longer
than lining it, I think.

I'm not sure a wire brush and the group favorite: angle grinder, would
help as it might be too harsh and damage the plaster too.

I can't steam it effectively because the jagged paint is underneath a
second coat of paint.

Thanks in advance,
Stephen.

Perhaps an orbital sander might blend the paint edges in enough. Otherwise
lining paper would be the normal solution.

Have you enough spare new paper just to hang a piece and see how it turns
out when dry? Unless the paper is really thin and fine, I wouldn't normally
imagine paint on plaster would show through.

Cheers

Tim

Tim S wrote:

Have you enough spare new paper just to hang a piece and see how it turns
out when dry? Unless the paper is really thin and fine, I wouldn't normally
imagine paint on plaster would show through.


I _thought_ I'd get away with hanging paper over a surface like that - I
didn't - it showed through.

In message , Tim S
writes
Perhaps an orbital sander might blend the paint edges in enough. Otherwise
lining paper would be the normal solution.

Need to be wary of doing this if the house is old, possibly lead based
paint.
Have you enough spare new paper just to hang a piece and see how it turns
out when dry? Unless the paper is really thin and fine, I wouldn't normally
imagine paint on plaster would show through.

Cheers

Tim

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Clint Sharp

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Clint Sharp wrote:
Perhaps an orbital sander might blend the paint edges in enough.
Otherwise lining paper would be the normal solution.

Need to be wary of doing this if the house is old, possibly lead based
paint.

On a wall? I doubt it. Woodwork, yes. Walls and ceilings used distemper.

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In article ,
Clint Sharp wrote:
Perhaps an orbital sander might blend the paint edges in enough.
Otherwise lining paper would be the normal solution.

Need to be wary of doing this if the house is old, possibly lead based
paint.

On a wall? I doubt it. Woodwork, yes. Walls and ceilings used distemper.

Wouldn't want to put money on that, I'd definitely do a lead test before
sanding it down if it appears to be . Just because it *should* be
distemper and lead based pain *should* only be used on woodwork...

I've seen painted plaster in houses around here (1930s era) that was
definitely not distemper. It's cheap insurance to find out before you
start sanding on unknowns.
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Clint Sharp

Clint Sharp wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Clint Sharp wrote:
Perhaps an orbital sander might blend the paint edges in enough.
Otherwise lining paper would be the normal solution.

Need to be wary of doing this if the house is old, possibly lead based
paint.

On a wall? I doubt it. Woodwork, yes. Walls and ceilings used distemper.

Wouldn't want to put money on that, I'd definitely do a lead test before
sanding it down if it appears to be . Just because it *should* be
distemper and lead based pain *should* only be used on woodwork...

Oh FFS. Lead isn't that poisonous.

I've seen painted plaster in houses around here (1930s era) that was
definitely not distemper.

It wasn't lead either.

It's cheap insurance to find out before you
start sanding on unknowns.

In article ,
Clint Sharp wrote:
On a wall? I doubt it. Woodwork, yes. Walls and ceilings used distemper.

Wouldn't want to put money on that, I'd definitely do a lead test before
sanding it down if it appears to be . Just because it *should* be
distemper and lead based pain *should* only be used on woodwork...

How many old houses have you worked on? Lead paint was *far* more
expensive than water based stuff and no one with any sense would use it on
an ordinary plastered wall. Only one you might find it on is direct to
brick.

I've seen painted plaster in houses around here (1930s era) that was
definitely not distemper. It's cheap insurance to find out before you
start sanding on unknowns.

My comment applies even more to houses of that era.

It makes sense to take precautions when sanding anything.

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Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I have just removed the wallpaper ready to redecorate. It looks as
though at some point in the past (1) the plaster was painted. At a
later point, (2) the paint must have been papered over. Then this
paper was (3) removed and took half of the paint off with it. It seems
whoever lived here at the time then (4) emulsioned over the wall and
(5) papered on top. I have just removed this paper.

I am concerned that the jagged patches of paint from (2) and (3) will
show through my new paper. I think the new paper is much thinner that
what I have taken off and I know from using it in other parts of the
house, it is not very tolerant of anything left on the wall behind it.

I'm thinking that lining the wall with lining paper might be the
easiest way forward. What do you think? Is there another way to remove
the paint (2) under the paint (4)?

I was wondering whether it could sand off, but that would take longer
than lining it, I think.

I'm not sure a wire brush and the group favorite: angle grinder, would
help as it might be too harsh and damage the plaster too.

I can't steam it effectively because the jagged paint is underneath a
second coat of paint.

Thanks in advance,
Stephen.

Polyskim and a sander is your fiend

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember The Natural Philosopher
saying something like:

Polyskim and a sander is your fiend

Rough little devil.

Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I have just removed the wallpaper ready to redecorate. It looks as
though at some point in the past (1) the plaster was painted. At a
later point, (2) the paint must have been papered over. Then this
paper was (3) removed and took half of the paint off with it. It seems
whoever lived here at the time then (4) emulsioned over the wall and
(5) papered on top. I have just removed this paper.

I am concerned that the jagged patches of paint from (2) and (3) will
show through my new paper. I think the new paper is much thinner that
what I have taken off and I know from using it in other parts of the
house, it is not very tolerant of anything left on the wall behind it.

I'm thinking that lining the wall with lining paper might be the
easiest way forward. What do you think? Is there another way to remove
the paint (2) under the paint (4)?

Heavy duty lining paper, no question.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I have just removed the wallpaper ready to redecorate. It looks as
though at some point in the past (1) the plaster was painted. At a
later point, (2) the paint must have been papered over. Then this
paper was (3) removed and took half of the paint off with it. It seems
whoever lived here at the time then (4) emulsioned over the wall and
(5) papered on top. I have just removed this paper.

I am concerned that the jagged patches of paint from (2) and (3) will
show through my new paper. I think the new paper is much thinner that
what I have taken off and I know from using it in other parts of the
house, it is not very tolerant of anything left on the wall behind it.

I'm thinking that lining the wall with lining paper might be the
easiest way forward. What do you think? Is there another way to remove
the paint (2) under the paint (4)?

Heavy duty lining paper, no question.



Or skim with filler if your plastering skills are up to it. I prefer it
to the Polyskim finish and it holds up very well in a thin layer.