On 4 May, 13:14, "Graham." wrote:

You seem to have either not read properly what the OP asked or read it
and failed to understand - he was talking about mains sockets i.e.
240V
{pedant}
Isn't it officialy 230V now?
{/pedant}

definitive
(Gets multi-meter out)
245V, about 100 meters from this:http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/infoweb/substation.jpg
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alexander.keys1 wrote:
On 4 May, 13:14, "Graham." wrote:

You seem to have either not read properly what the OP asked or read it
and failed to understand - he was talking about mains sockets i.e.
240V
{pedant}
Isn't it officialy 230V now?
{/pedant}
definitive
(Gets multi-meter out)
245V, about 100 meters from this:http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/infoweb/substation.jpg
/definitive

Still 240V and will stay that way:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/electrical/...ical.html#240V



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On Fri, 08 May 2009 18:54:30 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

Isn't it officialy 230V now?
245V, about 100 meters from ...
Still 240V and will stay that way:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/electrical/...ical.html#240V

*Offically* the mains voltage is as the first bullet point in the above
link, that is 230V +10% -6% but as 240V is within that tolerances there is
no actual need to physically change anything.

What hasn't happened and the last I heard very unlikely to happen is the
tolerance change to +/- 10%. The main reason being that 207 to 253v is
really far to large a range of voltage to be accomodated.

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Dave.

On Fri, 08 May 2009 19:43:16 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Fri, 08 May 2009 18:54:30 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

Isn't it officialy 230V now?
245V, about 100 meters from ...
Still 240V and will stay that way:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/electrical/...ical.html#240V

*Offically* the mains voltage is as the first bullet point in the above
link, that is 230V +10% -6% but as 240V is within that tolerances there is
no actual need to physically change anything.

What hasn't happened and the last I heard very unlikely to happen is the
tolerance change to +/- 10%. The main reason being that 207 to 253v is
really far to large a range of voltage to be accomodated.

230V may be the official figure, but the supply in the UK actually remains
at 240V +/- 6% as before. The EU diktat does not require the changing of
supply voltages, instead it requires equipment to be suitable for use on
230V +10%/-6%, so that it will be fine on our supply, but also fine on
other European supplies of various specs that also fall within the overall
EU spec.

SteveW

On Fri, 8 May 2009 21:58:39 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/electrical/...ical.html#240V

*Offically* the mains voltage is as the first bullet point in the above
link, that is 230V +10% -6% but as 240V is within that tolerances there
is no actual need to physically change anything.

230V may be the official figure, but the supply in the UK actually
remains at 240V +/- 6% as before.

Not so sure, I bet if you complained that your supply was below 225v (240v
-6%) but above 216v (230v -6%) they'd say no fault within spec.

The fact that the infrastructure hasn't chnaged means that 240 +/-6% is
what most people will have but that extra few volts on the lower end mean
they can load things up more and still remain within spec without having
to upgrade anything.

At least at the other end you can complain about more than 253v instead of
254.4v B-)

The move of the spec to 230v +/-10% that should have happened years ago
hasn't yet and I hope it never does.

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Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2009 21:58:39 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:

http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/electrical/...ical.html#240V

*Offically* the mains voltage is as the first bullet point in the above
link, that is 230V +10% -6% but as 240V is within that tolerances there
is no actual need to physically change anything.

230V may be the official figure, but the supply in the UK actually
remains at 240V +/- 6% as before.

Not so sure, I bet if you complained that your supply was below 225v
(240v -6%) but above 216v (230v -6%) they'd say no fault within spec.

We had a 217v brownout recently - flourescent tubes were flickering, server
UPS whining & bleeping, very noticable. They came straight out (Sunday
evening) found a fault in a substation and put it back to 236v with a cheery
smile.

Steve Walker wrote:
| Dave Liquorice wrote:
|| On Fri, 8 May 2009 21:58:39 +0100, Steve Walker wrote:
||
||||| http://www.diyfaq.org.uk/electrical/...ical.html#240V
||||
|||| *Offically* the mains voltage is as the first bullet point in
|||| the above link, that is 230V +10% -6% but as 240V is within that
|||| tolerances there is no actual need to physically change anything.
|||
||| 230V may be the official figure, but the supply in the UK actually
||| remains at 240V +/- 6% as before.
||
|| Not so sure, I bet if you complained that your supply was below
|| 225v (240v -6%) but above 216v (230v -6%) they'd say no fault
|| within spec.
|
| We had a 217v brownout recently - flourescent tubes were
| flickering, server UPS whining & bleeping, very noticable. They
| came straight out (Sunday evening) found a fault in a substation
| and put it back to 236v with a cheery smile.

Not like what happened near here then, some dastard broke in & somehow
nicked a load of copper from a substation, causing brownouts & power
cuts to the immediate area. A week later they're still working on
putting it right.

1 question, how on earth (no pun intended) did they steal it in the
first place without 'browning out' themselves (pun intended)?

In message , Kráftéé
writes
Not like what happened near here then, some dastard broke in & somehow
nicked a load of copper from a substation, causing brownouts & power
cuts to the immediate area. A week later they're still working on
putting it right.
Meh, close to here they nicked a load of copper and managed to cut off
half a town's telephones, took BT over a week to restore it all.

1 question, how on earth (no pun intended) did they steal it in the
first place without 'browning out' themselves (pun intended)?


They quite often don't manage that. Darwinian selection at its finest
IMHO.
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Clint Sharp

Clint Sharp wrote:
| In message , Kráftéé
| writes
|| Not like what happened near here then, some dastard broke in &
|| somehow nicked a load of copper from a substation, causing
|| brownouts & power cuts to the immediate area. A week later
|| they're still working on putting it right.
| Meh, close to here they nicked a load of copper and managed to cut
| off half a town's telephones, took BT over a week to restore it all.

Yes I have heard rumours about such things happening, I've even heard
of one case where they ripped fibre out the ground/box thinking it was
copper..
||
|| 1 question, how on earth (no pun intended) did they steal it in the
|| first place without 'browning out' themselves (pun intended)?
||
||
| They quite often don't manage that. Darwinian selection at its
| finest IMHO.

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:12:25 +0100, Kr*ft wrote:

Not like what happened near here then, some dastard broke in & somehow
nicked a load of copper from a substation, causing brownouts & power
cuts to the immediate area. A week later they're still working on
putting it right.

1 question, how on earth (no pun intended) did they steal it in the
first place without 'browning out' themselves (pun intended)?

In a substation there will be handy switches for turning things
off... Mind you the pikeys that do this sort of think aren't the
brightest sparks in the box.


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Cheers
Dave.