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My brain has just frozen.
For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared:
My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. Nice teaser, working aloud... Regular hexagon in 6 isosceles triangles. 360 degrees divided into 6 triangles gives angle of 60 degrees. Side opposite 60 degree angle is 1500. Split into two equal right angle triangles, with (out)side of 750 and opposite angle of 30 degrees. opposite/adjacent = tan 30 adjacent = opposite / tan 30 = 750 / tan 30 = 1299 adjacent side is half the across flats "diameter" of the hexagon, so across flats = 2598 I hope that's right or I'm going to feel a plonker. And the plonker won't like it... |
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On 6 May, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: My brain has just frozen. Apply alcohol. 1299.04 |
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Is is decking?
Can I have a prize? |
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Onetap coughed up some electrons that declared:
On 6 May, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: My brain has just frozen. Apply alcohol. 1299.04 That's half the value |
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On 6 May, 22:53, Tim S wrote:
adjacent side is half the across flats "diameter" of the hexagon, so across flats = 2598 Ahem. .... x 2 = 2598. Bums. |
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In message , The Medway
Handyman writes My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? **** simple - but work it out yourself consider the hexagon to be 6 equilateral triangles with side lengths of 1500 It then becomes a trivial geometric exercise I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. -- geoff |
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Tim S wrote:
Is is decking? Dead right! Why people want hexagonal decks is beyond me :-) Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Onetap coughed up some electrons that declared:
On 6 May, 22:53, Tim S wrote: adjacent side is half the across flats "diameter" of the hexagon, so across flats = 2598 Ahem. ... x 2 = 2598. Bums. Never mind. I was trying to cut coving with a mitre block today. Turned 1m into powder trying to work out which way to cut the bloody stuff for an internal bend. 3D problems mess my head up good. |
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geoff wrote:
In message , The Medway Handyman writes My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? **** simple - but work it out yourself consider the hexagon to be 6 equilateral triangles with side lengths of 1500 I'd got that far all by myself. Then my brain froze. It then becomes a trivial geometric exercise It would be trivial if could remember it all. Should have spent more time listening in class & less time passing notes to Julie Tolson... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared:
Tim S wrote: Is is decking? Dead right! Why people want hexagonal decks is beyond me :-) Half-hex would make sense, on the back of a house. Is it an island in the garden - or connected to said house? Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. You should get a few made up with neodynium magnets as a joke item - see if the recipient can ever pull it off the fridge again. You're name and number would remain with the customer, never lost. And we could get into a whole world of angle grinder skits |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk The square on the hippopotamus = the squares of the othe two sides. 1500 squared= 2250000 750 squared = 562500 Subtract= 1687500 Take the sq.root = 1299 Double = 2598 mm across flats. mark |
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The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared:
geoff wrote: In message , The Medway Handyman writes My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? **** simple - but work it out yourself consider the hexagon to be 6 equilateral triangles with side lengths of 1500 I'd got that far all by myself. Then my brain froze. It then becomes a trivial geometric exercise It would be trivial if could remember it all. Should have spent more time listening in class & less time passing notes to Julie Tolson... Hope she was worth it... |
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Tim S wrote:
The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Tim S wrote: Is is decking? Dead right! Why people want hexagonal decks is beyond me :-) Half-hex would make sense, on the back of a house. Is it an island in the garden - or connected to said house? Right down the bottom of the garden. To house a hexagonal pergola. Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? I thought I was the only one with that fantasy? But we like magnets too. I'll pop one in the post. If I knew your address. You should get a few made up with neodynium magnets as a joke item - see if the recipient can ever pull it off the fridge again. You're name and number would remain with the customer, never lost. That was the concept in the first place. And it works. And we could get into a whole world of angle grinder skits As if we need help :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Tim S wrote:
The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/debbie-harry-mercedes-benz-fashion-week-spring-2008-marc-jacobs-arrivals-vw7yDO.jpg |
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On 7 May, 07:42, Lobster wrote:
Tim S wrote: The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/debbie-harry-mercedes-benz-fa... What about whipped cream and Julia Bradbury aka Walking Man's totty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Bradbury |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. 2600. Near enough. -- *We waste time, so you don't have to * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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The Medway Handyman wrote: geoff wrote: In message , The Medway Handyman writes My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? **** simple - but work it out yourself consider the hexagon to be 6 equilateral triangles with side lengths of 1500 I'd got that far all by myself. Then my brain froze. It then becomes a trivial geometric exercise It would be trivial if could remember it all. Should have spent more time listening in class & less time passing notes to Julie Tolson... Not as accurate as calculating, but a simple vector drawing prog should give you the answer - Draw on this old Acorn did it in seconds. -- *Does fuzzy logic tickle? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"geoff" wrote in message ... In message , The Medway Handyman writes My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? **** simple - but work it out yourself consider the hexagon to be 6 equilateral triangles with side lengths of 1500 It then becomes a trivial geometric exercise I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. -- geoff It becomes 1500 x srt of 3 when you look at it that way. Adam |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Not as accurate as calculating, but a simple vector drawing prog should give you the answer - Draw on this old Acorn did it in seconds. thread hijack alert! That reminds me! Dave, or anyone who knows !Draw, have you ever seen a decent Windoze equivalent? -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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Scott M wrote: Not as accurate as calculating, but a simple vector drawing prog should give you the answer - Draw on this old Acorn did it in seconds. thread hijack alert! That reminds me! Dave, or anyone who knows !Draw, have you ever seen a decent Windoze equivalent? http://www.inkscape.org/download/ Is said to be based on !Draw, but I haven't really tried it. But I used an add on prog to make the hexagon - called Drawlots. That wouldn't work with Inkscape. Of course you could buy Virtual RPC which allows you run pretty well any RISC OS prog on a PC - think there's a free version too. -- *Sorry, I don't date outside my species. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) coughed up some electrons that declared:
http://www.inkscape.org/download/ I use it on linux - pretty reasonable vector drawing program. |
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Scott M wrote:
That reminds me! Dave, or anyone who knows !Draw, have you ever seen a decent Windoze equivalent? Blimey. A blast from the past. !Draw was great, wasn't it? Inkscape is about the best current replacement, although it's never felt as natural to me. Google Sketchup is worth investigating as well. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Is said to be based on !Draw, but I haven't really tried it. But I used an add on prog to make the hexagon - called Drawlots. That wouldn't work with Inkscape. Ta, I shall give it a bash. Of course you could buy Virtual RPC which allows you run pretty well any RISC OS prog on a PC - think there's a free version too. Hah, can beat that - I've got my old A3000 in the garage (having been evicted from my mum's house where its spent many a long year) if I had space to set it up! -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On Thu, 7 May 2009 11:46:47 UTC, Scott M wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Is said to be based on !Draw, but I haven't really tried it. But I used an add on prog to make the hexagon - called Drawlots. That wouldn't work with Inkscape. Ta, I shall give it a bash. Of course you could buy Virtual RPC which allows you run pretty well any RISC OS prog on a PC - think there's a free version too. Hah, can beat that - I've got my old A3000 in the garage (having been evicted from my mum's house where its spent many a long year) if I had space to set it up! It may only be a replica, but I've just built one of these.... http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120-2.htm We're talking 1960s.... (I built the front panel too) -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
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Jim wrote:
Blimey. A blast from the past. !Draw was great, wasn't it? Spent many a happy hour of my late childhood drawing all sorts of things in it. I can never get my head round the idea that such a program isn't a mandatory part of an OS. That or a real time memory hex editor (anyone remember the one that came with the Watford Electronics Shadow RAM board for the Model B?) Inkscape is about the best current replacement, although it's never felt as natural to me. Another vote. That throws the rest of my afternoon out while I try it then! -- Scott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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On Thu, 07 May 2009 07:42:07 +0100, Lobster wrote:
Tim S wrote: The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/debbie-harry-mercedes-benz-fashion-week-spring-2008-marc-jacobs-arrivals-vw7yDO.jpg looks as if the cream is now internal. -- Peter. You don't understand Newton's Third Law of Motion? It's not rocket science, you know. |
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On 6 May, 22:40, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: My brain has just frozen. For a hexagon with each side measuring 1500, what would be the 'across flats' dimension? I know its pie fag er indoors, but I can't get my head around it - I blame a long day in the sun. -- Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Across the flats (half way betwen intersections) is 1299x2=2598 opposite intersections (corner to 60 degree corner) are 1500x2 (equilateral triangles)=3000 hope that helps |
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Jim wrote: That reminds me! Dave, or anyone who knows !Draw, have you ever seen a decent Windoze equivalent? Blimey. A blast from the past. !Draw was great, wasn't it? No 'was' - versions of it are still being developed. -- *How can I miss you if you won't go away? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Scott M wrote: Blimey. A blast from the past. !Draw was great, wasn't it? Spent many a happy hour of my late childhood drawing all sorts of things in it. I can never get my head round the idea that such a program isn't a mandatory part of an OS. It's one of the reasons I still use a RISC OS machine. CAD progs that do the same (and more, of course) are just to complicated to bother with for me. It's excellent for sketching out pretty well anything - if like me you can't draw freehand for toffee. -- *Sorry, I don't date outside my species. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Tim S wrote:
Is is decking? Can I have a prize? Piggin typical. Spent ages last night working out a cutting list to price the job up. Quite excited about doing my first hexagonal deck. Lady rang me this morning to say she had changed her mind & wants a square one instead... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message om... Tim S wrote: Is is decking? Can I have a prize? Piggin typical. Spent ages last night working out a cutting list to price the job up. Quite excited about doing my first hexagonal deck. Lady rang me this morning to say she had changed her mind & wants a square one instead... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman Ask Drivel to work out the "across flats" on that one. Adam |
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In message , Lobster
writes Tim S wrote: The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-pho...edes-benz-fash ion-week-spring-2008-marc-jacobs-arrivals-vw7yDO.jpg Waaaaa Tell me it can't be so ... -- geoff |
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"PeterC" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 May 2009 07:42:07 +0100, Lobster wrote: Tim S wrote: The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/debbie-harry-mercedes-benz-fashion-week-spring-2008-marc-jacobs-arrivals-vw7yDO.jpg looks as if the cream is now internal. -- Peter. Do not Google for that Adam |
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On Thu, 07 May 2009 17:29:08 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:
Lady rang me this morning to say she had changed her mind & wants a square one instead... Give her an extra two sides for free! |
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"Huge" wrote in message ... On 2009-05-07, Lobster wrote: Tim S wrote: The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/debbie-harry-mercedes-benz-fashion-week-spring-2008-marc-jacobs-arrivals-vw7yDO.jpg She don't look bad for 64. This one looks better http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8037181.stm Adam |
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In message ,
ARWadsworth writes "Huge" wrote in message ... On 2009-05-07, Lobster wrote: Tim S wrote: The Medway Handyman coughed up some electrons that declared: Can I have a prize? Only prize I have is a TMH fridge magnet - any good? Debbie Harry and a bushel of whipped cream out of the question then? But we like magnets too. 30 years on, you might want to stick with just the whipped cream actually :-( http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-pho...rcedes-benz-fa shion-week-spring-2008-marc-jacobs-arrivals-vw7yDO.jpg She don't look bad for 64. This one looks better http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8037181.stm Go on, you would, wouldn't you -- geoff |
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mark wrote: The square on the hippopotamus = the squares of the othe two sides. It's the *squaw* on the hippopotamus. D'oh! Equals the sum of the squaws on the other two hides? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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geoff wrote:
In message , The Medway Handyman writes Owain wrote: mark wrote: The square on the hippopotamus = the squares of the othe two sides. It's the *squaw* on the hippopotamus. D'oh! Equals the sum of the squaws on the other two hides? Thank you children, No detention for you today Please sir, sir. FXputs hand up How about; Some Officers Have, Curly Auburn Hair, Till Old Age. I can still remember that! -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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