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PM April 16th 09 09:27 AM

Cable marking
 
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC equipment).
The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap. However the
adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks, or less if the
cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.

Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?




Dave Plowman (News) April 16th 09 10:56 AM

Cable marking
 
In article ,
PM wrote:
I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment). The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap.
However the adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks,
or less if the cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.


Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?


The only really long lasting way - other than for just a number - is to
cover the label with clear heat shrink. But not practical unless you can
remove a plug from the cable.

You might have more success labelling the plug or line outlet as these
doesn't flex.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[email protected] April 16th 09 11:58 AM

Cable marking
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
PM wrote:
I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment). The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap.
However the adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks,
or less if the cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.


Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?


The only really long lasting way - other than for just a number - is to
cover the label with clear heat shrink. But not practical unless you can
remove a plug from the cable.

You might have more success labelling the plug or line outlet as these
doesn't flex.

I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems to
last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey). It's not very
good on black SWA of course! :-)

--
Chris Green

PM April 16th 09 12:33 PM

Cable marking
 
wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
PM wrote:
I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment). The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap.
However the adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of
weeks, or less if the cable is moved around a lot, they start to
peel off.


Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My
first idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work?
Any better ideas?


The only really long lasting way - other than for just a number - is
to cover the label with clear heat shrink. But not practical unless
you can remove a plug from the cable.

You might have more success labelling the plug or line outlet as
these doesn't flex.

I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems to
last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey). It's not very
good on black SWA of course! :-)


I have a printer that prints barcodes and other info onto the stickers -
don't really want to try and emulate this with a marker pen!



Jules[_2_] April 16th 09 01:57 PM

Cable marking
 
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:58:32 +0000, tinnews wrote:
I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems to
last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey).


Seconded - I've done that for most of the AC wiring in the house as I've
been tracing things out; I suspect it'll survive pretty well.

In the UK I used to just stick small paper labels to the plugs with plain
ol' sellotape - they were all still going strong after nearly ten years.

cheers

Jules


Andy Burns[_6_] April 16th 09 01:58 PM

Cable marking
 
PM wrote:

I have a printer that prints barcodes and other info onto the stickers -
don't really want to try and emulate this with a marker pen!


The Dymo Rhino tapes are supposed to have better adhesive, saw one
lurking on the local RS trade counter last week ...

whisky-dave April 16th 09 03:01 PM

Cable marking
 

"PM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment).
The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap. However the
adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks, or less if the
cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.

Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?


http://www.rapidonline.com/Cables-Co.../kw/cable+ties

sticking the label on the ties, or perhaps spraying a clear lacquer or
plastic coat
type aerosol spray or a clear varnish might work.

We use these in the lab, but a bit pricey.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...hTerm=233-9990

they have other types basically a label covered by clear tape.
We use them to identify our mains leads as tested/inspected.







Frank Erskine April 16th 09 03:01 PM

Cable marking
 
On 16 Apr 2009 10:58:32 GMT, wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article ,
PM wrote:
I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment). The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap.
However the adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks,
or less if the cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.


Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?


The only really long lasting way - other than for just a number - is to
cover the label with clear heat shrink. But not practical unless you can
remove a plug from the cable.

You might have more success labelling the plug or line outlet as these
doesn't flex.

I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems to
last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey). It's not very
good on black SWA of course! :-)


I believe BT use a fine gold metallic marker pen to write on external
cables and jointing sleeves (usually PE). I don't know how long it
lasts though.

--
Frank Erskine

Harry Stottle[_3_] April 16th 09 07:34 PM

Cable marking
 

"PM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment).
The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap. However the
adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks, or less if the
cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.

Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?

Cover and overlap the stickers on both sides with sellotape, always works
for me.


Calvin Sambrook April 16th 09 09:46 PM

Cable marking
 
"PM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment).
The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap. However the
adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks, or less if the
cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.

Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?


We use Brady labels which are self amalgamating. They come in various sizes
on A4 sheets which can be laser printed.

Fantastic but so is the price.


george (dicegeorge) April 16th 09 10:02 PM

Cable marking
 


Calvin Sambrook wrote:
"PM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment).


http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/pr...sp?SKU=CB10273
TYCO ELECTRONICS / RAYCHEM - WCD-762 - LOADED DISPENSER COLOURS
Unit Price: £9.76 (£11.22)

its a white tape you wrap round the cable
write on it
and it has a layer of sellotape
cleverly built in to it
which you then wrap around it
so the ink doesnt rub off.

* Each dispenser contains a roll of pre-cut Self Laminating labels
for Wire, cable and pipe identification
* Each label has a white write on area for easy marking
* Special pad allows easy marking
* Marker dispenses automatically when the liner is pulled from base
of unit
* On application, the mark is protected against mechanical
influences by an over laminated adhesive lined transparent layer
* Temperature Range: -40°C to +120°C



[g]

Calvin Sambrook April 16th 09 10:10 PM

Cable marking
 
"george (dicegeorge)" wrote in message
...


Calvin Sambrook wrote:
"PM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC
equipment).


http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/pr...sp?SKU=CB10273
TYCO ELECTRONICS / RAYCHEM - WCD-762 - LOADED DISPENSER COLOURS
Unit Price: £9.76 (£11.22)

its a white tape you wrap round the cable
write on it
and it has a layer of sellotape
cleverly built in to it
which you then wrap around it
so the ink doesnt rub off.

* Each dispenser contains a roll of pre-cut Self Laminating labels for
Wire, cable and pipe identification
* Each label has a white write on area for easy marking
* Special pad allows easy marking
* Marker dispenses automatically when the liner is pulled from base of
unit
* On application, the mark is protected against mechanical influences
by an over laminated adhesive lined transparent layer
* Temperature Range: -40°C to +120°C



[g]


That sounds very similar (obviously I meant laminating and not amalgamating)
but the format is much better suited to the one-off uses suggested by the
original post than the A4 sheets we use.

In fact I might get some to use at work for the one-offs as the A4 sheets,
while good for production runs are a pain for one-offs.


Rod April 16th 09 10:34 PM

Cable marking
 
PM wrote:
Hi all,

I need to put stickers on several mains cables (IEC leads for PC equipment).
The stickers wrap round the cables with a small overlap. However the
adhesive is not strong enough and after a couple of weeks, or less if the
cable is moved around a lot, they start to peel off.

Opinions please on the best way of making these more permanent. My first
idea is clear parcel tape over the sticker - will this work? Any better
ideas?


Possibly not useful for the specific application as most such cable is
black, but I have recently come across Edding 8404 aerospace markers.
Water based ink, fine lines, and largely solvent and rub-proof. Write on
many plastics and metals. Amazingly good.

I got mine from Cult Pens (no connection except as a satisfied customer):

http://www.cultpens.com/acatalog/edding_8404_aerospace_marker.html#a3899

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

John Weston April 17th 09 10:08 AM

Cable marking
 
In article . com,
"Jules" wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:58:32 +0000, tinnews wrote:
I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems to
last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey).


Seconded - I've done that for most of the AC wiring in the house as I've
been tracing things out; I suspect it'll survive pretty well.

In the UK I used to just stick small paper labels to the plugs with plain
ol' sellotape - they were all still going strong after nearly ten years.

Unfortunately, over a long term Sellotape adhesive dries out and the
becomes brown. I've got several archival documents that have been
runied that way

--
John W
To mail me replace the obvious with co.uk twice

Dave Plowman (News) April 17th 09 10:51 AM

Cable marking
 
In article ,
John Weston wrote:
In article . com,
"Jules" wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:58:32 +0000, tinnews wrote:
I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems to
last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey).


Seconded - I've done that for most of the AC wiring in the house as
I've been tracing things out; I suspect it'll survive pretty well.

In the UK I used to just stick small paper labels to the plugs with
plain ol' sellotape - they were all still going strong after nearly
ten years.

Unfortunately, over a long term Sellotape adhesive dries out and the
becomes brown. I've got several archival documents that have been
runied that way


It also loses adhesion.

--
*I must always remember that I'm unique, just like everyone else. *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

PM April 20th 09 11:47 AM

Cable marking
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
John Weston wrote:
In article . com,
"Jules" wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:58:32 +0000, tinnews wrote:
I just write on the cable itself with a fine marker pen, it seems
to last pretty well on normal T&E (either white or grey).

Seconded - I've done that for most of the AC wiring in the house as
I've been tracing things out; I suspect it'll survive pretty well.

In the UK I used to just stick small paper labels to the plugs with
plain ol' sellotape - they were all still going strong after nearly
ten years.

Unfortunately, over a long term Sellotape adhesive dries out and the
becomes brown. I've got several archival documents that have been
runied that way


It also loses adhesion.


I need it to last 2 to 3 years max.




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