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The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red
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On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote:
The warning says *something like: *Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? |
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wrote in message ... On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Thanks for that. I thought shopping trolleys were things pulled along by old ladies, often finished in a tartan effect. mark |
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"mark" wrote:
wrote in message ... On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Thanks for that. I thought shopping trolleys were things pulled along by old ladies, often finished in a tartan effect. Not all old ladies are finished in a tartan effect. Some are finished in camel hair effect, others in tweed effect. ;-) |
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On Mar 25, 8:54 am, wrote:
On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? No he's talking about Supermarket Trolleys like the heading says |
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No he's talking about Supermarket Trolleys like the heading says Or, in other words a Fiat Punto ?? Dave ;-P |
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:56:12 +0000, Dave wrote:
No he's talking about Supermarket Trolleys like the heading says Or, in other words a Fiat Punto ?? Lose the 'super' bit and you might be on to something... ( & be thankful you don't have the sh*t trolleys that we all have here in the US :-) |
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in 191248 20090324 223846 Jules wrote:
( & be thankful you don't have the sh*t trolleys that we all have here in the US :-) Aren't most trolleys used in the US made by a British guy who was featured in "This Old House"? |
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"Matty F" wrote in message ... On Mar 25, 8:54 am, wrote: On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? No he's talking about Supermarket Trolleys like the heading says Translated to "Shopping Carts" for our US cousins ... Arfa |
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"Arfa Daily" writes: "Matty F" wrote in message ... No he's talking about Supermarket Trolleys like the heading says Translated to "Shopping Carts" for our US cousins ... Reminds me the first time I saw "No Strollers" at the escalator entrance to a US shopping mall, which I took to mean the tramps/druggies wandering around aimlessly should stay outside. Actually, it means no push chairs, which would explain why there were a number of tramps/druggies wandering around aimlessly inside... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:23:59 +0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , "Arfa Daily" writes: "Matty F" wrote in message ... No he's talking about Supermarket Trolleys like the heading says Translated to "Shopping Carts" for our US cousins ... Reminds me the first time I saw "No Strollers" at the escalator entrance to a US shopping mall, which I took to mean the tramps/druggies wandering around aimlessly should stay outside. I've seen stroller used in the UK before, too (by Maclaren, I think it was, who I believe are a UK company) a couple of years ago. I was told later that 'stroller' was originally a UK term though, then adopted by the US, then dropped by the UK in favour of pushchair. Lots of US terms seem to be like that - if you trace them back, they were once common UK ones, but fell out of favour in the UK whilst being retained in the US. I was also surprised when I moved to the US at how many terms and pronunciations* which I'd always thought as being "UK only" were in use here. * Some of which really grate, though - "nitch" for "niche", "Van Go" for Van Gogh, "booey" for buoy etc. :-) Don't think I'll ever quite get used to those... cheers Jules |
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-- Graham. %Profound_observation% wrote in message ... On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Assuming the trolley side is passive, it can't have too much range can it? Couldn't one just lift the trolley over the sub-surface coil, or are trolley thieves not that bright? |
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"Graham." wrote in message ... -- Graham. %Profound_observation% wrote in message ... On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Assuming the trolley side is passive, it can't have too much range can it? Couldn't one just lift the trolley over the sub-surface coil, or are trolley thieves not that bright? A cover sort of flips around the wheel. It requires a tool to reset it. Trolleys - I think those that can travel up and down moving escalator type ramps are clever. |
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"Graham." wrote in message ... -- Graham. %Profound_observation% wrote in message ... On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Assuming the trolley side is passive, it can't have too much range can it? Couldn't one just lift the trolley over the sub-surface coil, or are trolley thieves not that bright? A cover sort of flips around the wheel. It requires a tool to reset it. Trolleys - I think those that can travel up and down moving escalator type ramps are clever. Those usually have a fixed inner part of the wheel and rotating discs on the outside edges. The edges of the discs only clear the fixed bit by a few mm and are fairly slim. Hence on the travellator the wheel edges drop into the grooves on the surface leaving the fixed bit of wheel grounded on the raised bits of the surface. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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"John Rumm" wrote in message et... John wrote: "Graham." wrote in message ... -- Graham. %Profound_observation% wrote in message ... On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? mark Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Assuming the trolley side is passive, it can't have too much range can it? Couldn't one just lift the trolley over the sub-surface coil, or are trolley thieves not that bright? A cover sort of flips around the wheel. It requires a tool to reset it. Trolleys - I think those that can travel up and down moving escalator type ramps are clever. Those usually have a fixed inner part of the wheel and rotating discs on the outside edges. The edges of the discs only clear the fixed bit by a few mm and are fairly slim. Hence on the travellator the wheel edges drop into the grooves on the surface leaving the fixed bit of wheel grounded on the raised bits of the surface. -- Cheers, John. I thought that the ones that I had seen, had the grooves in the moving walkway, slightly off-parallel, so that when the wheel edges dropped down into them, they 'locked' in place, as gravity tried to drag them deeper into the diminishing gap ? Arfa |
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"Graham." wrote:
Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Assuming the trolley side is passive, it can't have too much range can it? Couldn't one just lift the trolley over the sub-surface coil, or are trolley thieves not that bright? Plenty of trolleys escape from out local supermarket, which is equipped with that system. The brakes only work on one or two wheels, and since those wheels are at the back, it is a trivial task to lift the rear of the trolley while pushing it over the loop. Lots of people seem to do it, and I regularly go to the supermarket pushing a trolley that I found on the way. ;-) |
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writes "Graham." wrote: Inductance loop buried in the ground at red line.Puts the brakes on. Assuming you`re talking about shopping trolleys but just forgot to mention it? Assuming the trolley side is passive, it can't have too much range can it? Couldn't one just lift the trolley over the sub-surface coil, or are trolley thieves not that bright? Plenty of trolleys escape from out local supermarket, which is equipped with that system. The brakes only work on one or two wheels, and since those wheels are at the back, it is a trivial task to lift the rear of the trolley while pushing it over the loop. Having tried it once (when I'd parked in a bit of car park in a shopping place outside the actual sainburys car park. It wasn't easy at to push a trolley full of shopping keeping the braked wheel off the ground (the brake stayed on in this system) -- Chris French |
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When this system was installed at my local Tesco one of the security
staff said that those who took their trolleys home soon found the (unplanned) gap in the loop. Don't know if the gap is still there but it's a long time since I saw a stray trolley, and the old ones could be taken a mile or more from the store. |
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:49:14 -0000, mark wrote:
The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? Must have posh trollies if they have an electical automatic braking sytem, either that or an awful lot of tea leaves to make such a system worth while. What I have seen is attachments to the wheels and section of floor that engages on the attachments stoping the trolly going any further. I've also seen this used on an escalator for people and trollies. No steps just a flat moving ramp push trolly on it locks to the surface you and it ride to the top where fingers lift the trolley off the surafce and away you go. As for lifting a trolley, they are pretty heavy empty and one assumes people "borrow" them when full to assist in moving their shopping. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Liquorice writes On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:49:14 -0000, mark wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? Must have posh trollies if they have an electical automatic braking sytem, either that or an awful lot of tea leaves to make such a system worth while. some places obviously do, as they had such a system at the Sainburys near where I used to live. -- Chris French |
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"chris French" wrote in message ... In message et, Dave Liquorice writes On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:49:14 -0000, mark wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? Must have posh trollies if they have an electical automatic braking sytem, either that or an awful lot of tea leaves to make such a system worth while. some places obviously do, as they had such a system at the Sainburys near where I used to live. -- Chris French Tesco store near me has trollies so equipped, and all of the Walmart stores that I've seen in the US have the system. Arfa |
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"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message ll.net... On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:49:14 -0000, mark wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? Must have posh trollies if they have an electical automatic braking sytem, either that or an awful lot of tea leaves to make such a system worth while. I've seen a Lidl with notices saying that trolleys will stop beyond this point. I'm not sure that could have been done with inductive loops though, as the system had to allow customers to cross a public road to get to the overflow car park, so any loops would have needed to be buried in the road. Colin Bignell |
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The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? And why is the bloke who collects the trolleys only 5' tall, wears NHS spectacles & a bobble hat? Doesn't matter where you go, the trolley bloke always looks the same. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message . .. mark wrote: The warning says something like: Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. How does that work? And why is the bloke who collects the trolleys only 5' tall, wears NHS spectacles & a bobble hat? Doesn't matter where you go, the trolley bloke always looks the same. Someone that every supermarket calls in to collect trolleys, a real specialist, I know him, it's Dilbert !!! |
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On 24 Mar, 20:49, "mark" wrote:
The warning says *something like: *Will come to a Sudden Stop at the Red Line. The big new Tesco in [[Bradley Stoke|Sadly Broke]], Bristol has the trollies outside, shop inside and a sufficiently magnetic device in the floor near the doors that it locks the wheel on every trolley you try and use. The brake is a rubber block on a swinging plastic arm. The only trollies that remain usable are those where someone has wrenched the plastic arm sideways and wedged it out of the way on top of the castor. Ghastly shop, and the "customer service" people are so unhelpful they blame the poor shopper for being unable to work the trollies. Mind you, the guy that had working in the petrol station there a few weeks ago surpassed even that. Probably the Angriest Man in Retail, he got so irate with one driver that he ended up banging the card reader on the glass window in front of him and screaming. Very funny to watch, but I can't imagine Tesco really intend their staff to behave like that. |
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