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tim..... February 24th 09 11:01 PM

Double glazied wondow - handles
 
I've just looked around a rental property and some (most) of the windows
wouldn't open.

1) "pushing" the button in didn't release the lock and I suggested that this
meant they were broken. The agent suggested that they were locked, but ISTR
that if they are locked the button won't push in - is this right?

2) If they are broken, is there an easy way of removing them without
destroying the window. The lower screw is inaccessible when the handle is
in the closed position.

I assume that there is a standard fitting inside the window for them to
screw into. I have found replacement parts on t' net.
(http://www.handlestore.com/product_list.php?cat_id=6).

The landlord seemed to want to keep his property in good repair and I think
he could be persuaded to fix this problem if it wasn't too costly.

TIA

tim



tim..... February 24th 09 11:02 PM

Double glazied wondow - handles
 
Oh bugger. I wish I had spell checked the title properly!

(I think you know what I mean)


"tim....." wrote in message
...
I've just looked around a rental property and some (most) of the windows
wouldn't open.

1) "pushing" the button in didn't release the lock and I suggested that
this meant they were broken. The agent suggested that they were locked,
but ISTR that if they are locked the button won't push in - is this right?

2) If they are broken, is there an easy way of removing them without
destroying the window. The lower screw is inaccessible when the handle is
in the closed position.

I assume that there is a standard fitting inside the window for them to
screw into. I have found replacement parts on t' net.
(http://www.handlestore.com/product_list.php?cat_id=6).

The landlord seemed to want to keep his property in good repair and I
think he could be persuaded to fix this problem if it wasn't too costly.

TIA

tim





Toby February 25th 09 10:28 AM

Double glazied wondow - handles
 
tim..... wrote:
I've just looked around a rental property and some (most) of the
windows wouldn't open.

1) "pushing" the button in didn't release the lock and I suggested
that this meant they were broken. The agent suggested that they were
locked, but ISTR that if they are locked the button won't push in -
is this right?
2) If they are broken, is there an easy way of removing them without
destroying the window. The lower screw is inaccessible when the
handle is in the closed position.

I assume that there is a standard fitting inside the window for them
to screw into. I have found replacement parts on t' net.
(http://www.handlestore.com/product_list.php?cat_id=6).

The landlord seemed to want to keep his property in good repair and I
think he could be persuaded to fix this problem if it wasn't too
costly.
TIA

tim


Some of the windows I have seen, where the button has the key-hole in, have
it the other way round, the button is out when the window is unlocked,
pressing it in (Where it then stays in) locks it.

I would think having opening windows may well be a saftey issue in the case
of a fire, so the landlord may have to fix them if they are broken!




tim..... February 25th 09 01:12 PM

Double glazied wondow - handles
 

"Toby" wrote in message
...
tim..... wrote:
I've just looked around a rental property and some (most) of the
windows wouldn't open.

1) "pushing" the button in didn't release the lock and I suggested
that this meant they were broken. The agent suggested that they were
locked, but ISTR that if they are locked the button won't push in -
is this right?
2) If they are broken, is there an easy way of removing them without
destroying the window. The lower screw is inaccessible when the
handle is in the closed position.

I assume that there is a standard fitting inside the window for them
to screw into. I have found replacement parts on t' net.
(http://www.handlestore.com/product_list.php?cat_id=6).

The landlord seemed to want to keep his property in good repair and I
think he could be persuaded to fix this problem if it wasn't too
costly.
TIA

tim


Some of the windows I have seen, where the button has the key-hole in,
have it the other way round, the button is out when the window is
unlocked, pressing it in (Where it then stays in) locks it.


This is not how these particular ones were. Some of the windows work, in
that pushing the button releases the catch and the handle will turn.

Almost none of the handles were fully working, the most common fault being
that the button did not "pop" back out when the handle is returned to the
closed position, and it remained in an unlockable state (but as no key is
provided this isn't really an issue).


I would think having opening windows may well be a saftey issue in the
case of a fire, so the landlord may have to fix them if they are broken!


This is possibly a BR requirement but I have seen lots of houses converted
in a way that breaches this and no-body checks and the penalty is bugger
all. I wonder if the fact that it is a rental means that this is different

tim




[email protected] February 25th 09 10:36 PM

Double glazied wondow - handles
 
tim..... wrote:
"Toby" wrote in message
...
tim..... wrote:
I've just looked around a rental property and some (most) of the
windows wouldn't open.

1) "pushing" the button in didn't release the lock and I suggested
that this meant they were broken. The agent suggested that they were
locked, but ISTR that if they are locked the button won't push in -
is this right?
2) If they are broken, is there an easy way of removing them without
destroying the window. The lower screw is inaccessible when the
handle is in the closed position.

I assume that there is a standard fitting inside the window for them
to screw into. I have found replacement parts on t' net.
(http://www.handlestore.com/product_list.php?cat_id=6).

The landlord seemed to want to keep his property in good repair and I
think he could be persuaded to fix this problem if it wasn't too
costly.
TIA

tim


Some of the windows I have seen, where the button has the key-hole in,
have it the other way round, the button is out when the window is
unlocked, pressing it in (Where it then stays in) locks it.


This is not how these particular ones were. Some of the windows work, in
that pushing the button releases the catch and the handle will turn.

Almost none of the handles were fully working, the most common fault being
that the button did not "pop" back out when the handle is returned to the
closed position, and it remained in an unlockable state (but as no key is
provided this isn't really an issue).


I would think having opening windows may well be a saftey issue in the
case of a fire, so the landlord may have to fix them if they are broken!


This is possibly a BR requirement but I have seen lots of houses converted
in a way that breaches this and no-body checks and the penalty is bugger
all. I wonder if the fact that it is a rental means that this is different

tim


Cut the turning handle off with an angle grinder. Replacement locking
handles are only £6 apx a go. Thats well within negotiation range.


NT


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