I've noticed that at least one Bosch product is now supplied in a
systainer. And many Festool products have been for a long time.

Is there a definition of a systainer? Are they all supposed to stack
with each other? Or is it just a generic word for a 'shaped plastic case'?

--
Rod

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On 11 Feb, 16:04, Rod wrote:
I've noticed that at least one Bosch product is now supplied in a
systainer. And many Festool products have been for a long time.

Systainers are a product of Tanos (Tanos GMBH, so they're German too).
I presume it's a trademark and they defend it against copies. So for
some years you've been able to buy generic Systainers for less than
Festool prices (not sure how they compare with Bosch) and everything
fits. Their Sortainers are nice too, so long as someone else is
paying!

OTOH, I actually prefer the plastic in the older Bosch cases (less
brittle). I wonder if it's worth sticking the case from your new Bosch
gadget straight onto eBay and flogging it to a Festool user as a
systainer alone?

Andy Dingley wrote:
On 11 Feb, 16:04, Rod wrote:
I've noticed that at least one Bosch product is now supplied in a
systainer. And many Festool products have been for a long time.

Systainers are a product of Tanos (Tanos GMBH, so they're German too).
I presume it's a trademark and they defend it against copies. So for
some years you've been able to buy generic Systainers for less than
Festool prices (not sure how they compare with Bosch) and everything
fits. Their Sortainers are nice too, so long as someone else is
paying!

OTOH, I actually prefer the plastic in the older Bosch cases (less
brittle). I wonder if it's worth sticking the case from your new Bosch
gadget straight onto eBay and flogging it to a Festool user as a
systainer alone?

Thanks - that got me to this:

http://www.kofferfunshop.de/systainers/systainers

Which shows just how many products there are!

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

I wonder if it's worth sticking the case from your new Bosch
gadget straight onto eBay and flogging it to a Festool user as a
systainer alone?

There's one on ebay now:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BOSCH-INTERLOCKING-SYSTAINER-TOOLBOX-395-x-295-x-165mm_W0QQitemZ120374956690QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_G arage_Equipment_Tools_Tool_Boxes_Storage?hash=item 120374956690&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1 683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

The retail price of systainers is outrageous. I'm sure tool
manufacturers must be paying a very tiny fraction of that price.

If the full size ones were 10-15 quid I'd consider sorting out some of
my unboxed tools or getting rid of some of the ridiculously large
boxes that came with some tools.

I know that Metabo boxes interlock with the festool ones (i.e. it has
clips to form the stack as well as being the right size), so maybe it
is becoming a standard.

Maybe Bosch have listened - I had a whine at them on a trade stand
about how the boxes were becoming ever bulkier (without actually
providing useful cubby holes).

On 11 Feb, 17:29, " wrote:

Maybe Bosch have listened - I had a whine at them on a trade stand
about how the boxes were becoming ever bulkier (without actually
providing useful cubby holes).

I mentioned that to Bosch too once and they claimed that the cases
(and this crush space) were designed to protect the tools in case of
quite serious accidents, drops of a storey or two.

I mentioned that to Bosch too once and they claimed that the cases
(and this crush space) were designed to protect the tools in case of
quite serious accidents, drops of a storey or two.

I did that test on my impact driver without the case. I didn't even
bother to go down and look and was thinking when I can get out to buy
another one - I was amazed it was completely unscathed.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:29:29 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

I know that Metabo boxes interlock with the festool ones (i.e. it has
clips to form the stack as well as being the right size), so maybe it
is becoming a standard.

Maybe Bosch have listened - I had a whine at them on a trade stand
about how the boxes were becoming ever bulkier (without actually
providing useful cubby holes).

I've seen that Makita have also started using proper systainers,
their previous cases like those that they supply with their routers
are at first glance lookalikes but they have some very deliberate
design 'features' to stop any interlocking which is a bit of a pain.

--

Actually a systainer laptop case would be rather cool.