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vbleau January 26th 09 04:26 PM

gas fire that looks like a woodburner
 
In a previous life I had two wood burning stoves (one clearview, - far
superior to the other, a morso) and and endless supply of cheap wood
with plenty of space to store.

Since moving I need a heat source in my living room to replace the
useless "living flame " fire.

I am considering one of those fires that looks just liike a
woodburner, sits on a plinth out from the wall and runs on mains gas.

Can anyone tell me anything about them please?

Am I likely to need the chimney lined or however it functioned with
the living flame be sufficient?


John Weston January 26th 09 07:26 PM

gas fire that looks like a woodburner
 
In article d25e6b51-aaf1-4b13-9daa-0c6840dc7532
@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com, says...
In a previous life I had two wood burning stoves (one clearview, - far
superior to the other, a morso) and and endless supply of cheap wood
with plenty of space to store.

Since moving I need a heat source in my living room to replace the
useless "living flame " fire.

I am considering one of those fires that looks just liike a
woodburner, sits on a plinth out from the wall and runs on mains gas.

Can anyone tell me anything about them please?

Am I likely to need the chimney lined or however it functioned with
the living flame be sufficient?


You could replace the old open living flame fire with a modern, glass-
fronted, efficient version (up to 85% AFAICR). I did this a few month's
ago and it is much better, with no drafts up the chimney and most of the
heat coming into the room. It sits back in the normal fireplace recess
or could have been be flush mounted, depending on model.

Yes, you will need the chimney lining, if the living flame fire was
simply installed in the old open fireplace with nothing done to the the
chimney.
--
John W
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vbleau January 26th 09 10:36 PM

gas fire that looks like a woodburner
 
On 26 Jan, 19:26, John Weston wrote:
In article d25e6b51-aaf1-4b13-9daa-0c6840dc7532
@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com, says...



In a previous life I had two wood burning stoves (one clearview, - far
superior to the other, a morso) and and endless supply of cheap wood
with plenty of space to store.


Since moving I need a heat source in my living room to replace the
useless "living flame " fire.


I am considering one of those fires that looks just liike a
woodburner, sits on a plinth out from the wall and runs on mains gas.


Can anyone tell me anything about them please?


Am I likely to need the chimney lined or however it functioned with
the living flame be sufficient?


You could replace the old open living flame fire with a modern, glass-
fronted, efficient version (up to 85% AFAICR). *I did this a few month's
ago and it is much better, with no drafts up the chimney and most of the
heat coming into the room. It sits back in the normal fireplace recess
or could have been be flush mounted, depending on model.

Yes, you will need the chimney lining, if the living flame fire was
simply installed in the old open fireplace with nothing done to the the
chimney.
--
John W
To mail me replace the obvious with co.uk twice- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks John, whave not seen those.

Does it belt out a good heat?

John Weston January 27th 09 12:16 AM

gas fire that looks like a woodburner
 
In article 8ca61759-0a05-4a8d-a5d8-05440cb34d86@
40g2000prx.googlegroups.com, says...
On 26 Jan, 19:26, John Weston says...

You could replace the old open living flame fire with a modern, glass-
fronted, efficient version (up to 85% AFAICR). *I did this a few month's
ago and it is much better, with no drafts up the chimney and most of the
heat coming into the room. It sits back in the normal fireplace recess
or could have been be flush mounted, depending on model.

Yes, you will need the chimney lining, if the living flame fire was
simply installed in the old open fireplace with nothing done to the the
chimney.
--
John W


Thanks John, whave not seen those.

Does it belt out a good heat?

Ours is 4.4Kw output at 85% efficient, according the the rating plate.
See:
http://www.paragonfires.co.uk/catalo...spx?prod_id=50 for
similar types.

I use it to heat just the one room, when working at home during the day,
if needed, since the programmable central heating thermostat has decided
we should be out :-) It's good when you need a shot of instant heat and
a comforting flame after being out late, this time of year.
--
John W
To mail me replace the obvious with co.uk twice

Rick Hughes January 27th 09 02:14 PM

gas fire that looks like a woodburner
 

"vbleau" wrote in message
...
In a previous life I had two wood burning stoves (one clearview, - far
superior to the other, a morso) and and endless supply of cheap wood
with plenty of space to store.

Since moving I need a heat source in my living room to replace the
useless "living flame " fire.

I am considering one of those fires that looks just liike a
woodburner, sits on a plinth out from the wall and runs on mains gas.

Can anyone tell me anything about them please?

Am I likely to need the chimney lined or however it functioned with
the living flame be sufficient?


very inefficient ... burning a lot of gas for effect, and not to obtain heat
.... but it's your money.

I had looked at putting one of these in my place, in the end I put an
electric, flame effect ... only costs a low energy light bulb to run, and we
use it instead of a lamp on in the room ... pretty effective.


John Weston January 27th 09 07:07 PM

gas fire that looks like a woodburner
 
In article ,
says...


very inefficient ... burning a lot of gas for effect, and not to obtain heat
... but it's your money.

But in the type I use, the flame. glow bed and the imitation glowing
coals, pebbles or driftwood is all in an enclosed, glass-fronted box
insulated at the back and sides and with a heat exchanger in the flue,
which gives warm air out of a vent. The 85% quoted efficiency of heat
output is at maximum gas input.

I agree, though, that your electric version at almost 100% output will
be better when the price of gas rises to more than 85% of the electicity
price per KWh. Since the price of our electricity is closely tied to
the oil price, as is that of gas at the moment, when will this happen?

--
John W
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