Hi

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m “log cabin” for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at £400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?

Any thoughts or experience appreciated.


Thanks

Clive

£400 for 2 operatives for the day seems reasonable.


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Hi

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m “log cabin” for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at £400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?

Any thoughts or experience appreciated.


Thanks

Clive

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m "log cabin" for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at £400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?


I am not sure if building regulations would apply to this structure but if
they do remember that current insulation standards are now very high and
what you are proposing is unlikely to meet them. It might not concern the
current owner but if and when he comes to sell he will have to certify that
all work has been done to the appropriate regulations.

Peter Crosland

Peter Crosland coughed up some electrons that declared:

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m "log cabin" for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at £400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?


I am not sure if building regulations would apply to this structure but if
they do remember that current insulation standards are now very high and
what you are proposing is unlikely to meet them. It might not concern the
current owner but if and when he comes to sell he will have to certify
that all work has been done to the appropriate regulations.

Peter Crosland

Or the OP's friend could take it with him when he moves. Or refer to it as
a "shed".

Cheers

Tim

Tim S wrote:
Peter Crosland coughed up some electrons that declared:

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m "log cabin" for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at £400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?

I am not sure if building regulations would apply to this structure but if
they do remember that current insulation standards are now very high and
what you are proposing is unlikely to meet them. It might not concern the
current owner but if and when he comes to sell he will have to certify
that all work has been done to the appropriate regulations.

Peter Crosland

Or the OP's friend could take it with him when he moves. Or refer to it as
a "shed".

Indeed, its only a temporary building and so has no more need to meet
building regs than any other shed. However from the point of view as use
as and office, I would suggest a minimum of 50mm of PIR foam on all
the walls and the ceiling.

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Great info all

I have forwarded on to my friend.


Thanks

Clive

wrote:
Hi

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m �log cabin� for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at �400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?

Any thoughts or experience appreciated.


Thanks

Clive

I dont think we can tell you whether your friend wants to build their
own shed or not. But... there's a lot to be said for the confidence
and satisfaction one gains from tackling such a thing for the first
time. And really, shed building is very simple stuff, so if they're
thinking maybe, then go for it.

£400 for 2 person days, less the cost of a hammer, cordless drill with
2 quick charge batteries, a few drill bits and a box or 3 of screws.
Only they know if thats worthwhile to them, and whether the tools will
come in handy later.

Downsides of insulation? Just appearance. Dont forget a sheet of
building paper or something similar to stop rain getting in to the
insulation.

http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Sheds
http://www.wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index....tle=Insulation


NT

On 19 Jan, 10:02, wrote:
Hi

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m “log cabin” for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

I strongly urge that your friend knuckles down and mends her busted
bog before she goes fannying around building sheds here, there and
everywhere. Ridiculous.

Anita Palley wrote:
On 19 Jan, 10:02, wrote:
Hi

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m “log cabin” for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

I strongly urge that your friend knuckles down and mends her busted
bog before she goes fannying around building sheds here, there and
everywhere. Ridiculous.

How do you know it isn't fixed?

Making pre-emtive judgments of people without adequate information.

Ridiculous or pathetic ?

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Anita Palley
saying something like:

I strongly urge that your friend knuckles down and mends her busted
bog before she goes fannying around building sheds here, there and
everywhere. Ridiculous.

The Voice of Reason. Thank you, Anita.

wrote:
Hi

A friend of mine, the one with the overflowing toilet cistern, wants
to buy a 3m x 3m “log cabin” for use as a garden office. The cabin
timbers come in various widths (28mm, 24mm, 45mm) of precut timber
delivered all in one pack. Now the basic cabin seems reasonably priced
and much more robust than a shed. My question is about assembly and
materials.

As the whole cabin is made of pre-sawn and drilled timbers, is it easy
to assemble rather than pay the company to send their own people? I'm
guessing the assemblers will have put up tens if not hundreds of these
cabins and will have the experience and the correct tools. My friend
is leaning (hopefully not the cabin) towards paying the company to
assemble the cabin and I think she is right on that.

However, the cost for insulation at £400 seems very high when I guess
the whole thing can be lined with fibreglass between battens and
tongue and grooved boards nailed to the battens. One loses the lovely
appearance of the timbers inside the cabin but at least the cabin
won't lost heat as fast. Are there any down sides to insulating the
cabin oneself?

So the £400 is for insulation not assembley - how much is that?

£400 seems reasonable for insulation if it includes materials & labour.


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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk