My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

Do rented properties need a CO Alarm to be fitted or is it only in
HMO's Might be worth your sisters while buying one of her own for
peace of mind.

In article ,
writes
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

Do rented properties need a CO Alarm to be fitted or is it only in
HMO's Might be worth your sisters while buying one of her own for
peace of mind.

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't working,
it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that combustion
is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I wouldn't pay
someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one and used it.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

On 10 Dec, 15:36, fred wrote:
In article ,
writes



On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

Do rented properties need a CO Alarm to be fitted or is it only in
HMO's *Might be worth your sisters while buying one of her own for
peace of mind.

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't working,
it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that combustion
is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I wouldn't pay
someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one and used it.
--
Thanks for that information, it was the flue he was trying to check.
She doesn't have to pay for the check, that's the landlord's
responsibility, so her correct course of action would therefore be to
contact her landlord. Again... thanks.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800, fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

It's OK: a combustion analyser test isn't mandatory for a Landlord's Gas
Safety Report. If an engineer doing a LLGS has an analyser they may use it
to determine whether the boiler (or some other appliances) need servicing,
but it's not required for the Gas Safety report itself.

--
John Stumbles -- http://yaph.co.uk

Many hands make light work. Too many cooks spoil the broth.

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?


Did he issue her with a gas safety certificate? (A pass and not a
fail)


Tenants have to have one by law. If the landlord refuses then health
and safety are gagging to get involved. There've been a couple of
deaths from gas appliances recently so they will be keen to prevent
more.

--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:36:41 +0000, fred wrote:

In article ,
writes
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and installation.
As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was the annual gas
check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants. The mechanic
discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't working. He did,
however do all the other checks he could do, and promised a new
appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No further call was
made, the company just sent her a certificate saying that it was not
necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had been done and
there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she insist that her
landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

Do rented properties need a CO Alarm to be fitted or is it only in HMO's
Might be worth your sisters while buying one of her own for peace of
mind.

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't working,
it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that combustion
is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I wouldn't pay
someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one and used it.

While it is a useful tool, it is not required, nor legally required in
order to perform checks on domestic gas appliances.


--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html

In article , Ed Sirett
writes
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:36:41 +0000, fred wrote:

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't working,
it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that combustion
is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I wouldn't pay
someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one and used it.

While it is a useful tool, it is not required, nor legally required in
order to perform checks on domestic gas appliances.

Thanks for the correction, I thought that was probably the case as
systems have been set up and safety checked for years without the need
for them but decided to avoid confusing the issue.

Still, it's nice to have a guy with all the toys (working) on site to
predict long term problems in the making on an installation.
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:57:01 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

On 10 Dec, 15:36, fred wrote:
In article ,
writes



On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

Do rented properties need a CO Alarm to be fitted or is it only in
HMO's *Might be worth your sisters while buying one of her own for
peace of mind.

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't working,
it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that combustion
is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I wouldn't pay
someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one and used it.
--
Thanks for that information, it was the flue he was trying to check.
She doesn't have to pay for the check, that's the landlord's
responsibility, so her correct course of action would therefore be to
contact her landlord. Again... thanks.

Did she get a gas safety certificate issued?
--
http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
http://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:54:21 +0000, fred wrote:

In article , Ed Sirett
writes
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:36:41 +0000, fred wrote:

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't
working, it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that
combustion is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I
wouldn't pay someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one
and used it.

While it is a useful tool, it is not required, nor legally required in
order to perform checks on domestic gas appliances.

Thanks for the correction, I thought that was probably the case as
systems have been set up and safety checked for years without the need
for them but decided to avoid confusing the issue.

Still, it's nice to have a guy with all the toys (working) on site to
predict long term problems in the making on an installation.

I doubt that using a combustion analyser is that predictive. It has two
main uses one is to get/check the combustion right on forced premix
burners. The other is to see how well a boiler is burning, if it checks
out 99.6% over the range of gas rates then you can be sure the pressure
ans rates are good. Not having this makes toy means you have to perform
other checks which take a lot longer and/or it is difficult to keep the
boiler in the right condition while the checks are done.



--
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html
Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html
Choosing a Boiler FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/BoilerChoice.html

On 12 Dec, 18:55, mogga wrote:
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:57:01 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:
On 10 Dec, 15:36, fred wrote:
In article ,
writes

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:11:16 -0800 (PST), fido wrote:

My sister had a mechanic come to check her gas boiler and
installation. As she was at work I was at her home at the time. It was
the annual gas check that landlords have to arrange for their tenants.
The mechanic discovered that his carbon monoxide detector wasn't
working. He did, however do all the other checks he could do, and
promised a new appointment would be made for a proper CO check. No
further call was made, the company just sent her a certificate saying
that it was not necessary to do a CO check as all the other checks had
been done and there was no CO leaks. Is this correct or should she
insist that her landlords arranges for a proper CO check to be made?

Do rented properties need a CO Alarm to be fitted or is it only in
HMO's *Might be worth your sisters while buying one of her own for
peace of mind.

It's possible he meant that his combustion gas analyser wasn't working,
it measures the CO content of the flue gasses to check that combustion
is correct. Incorrect combustion can wreck a boiler so I wouldn't pay
someone for a boiler check unless he had a working one and used it.
--
Thanks for that information, it was the flue he was trying to check.
She doesn't have to pay for the check, that's the landlord's
responsibility, so her correct course of action would therefore be to
contact her landlord. Again... thanks.

Did she get a gas safety certificate issued?
--http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.ukhttp://www.holidayunder100.co.uk

yes, eventually it was sent by post... 'pass'