I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on
the front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft
away. The trouble is the house is in the way and I don't get anything like
the range that they state on the packaging. I'm currently using a Byron
doorbell with the bell units which plug into the mains. I also have a
battery powered repeater (is that what it's called?) which is supposed to
extend the range.The repeater is positioned on the wall between the kitchen
and the hall and is about 15ft from the doorbell. Any further away and it
doesn't seem to work- and that's with a new battery in the bell push. With
new batteries in the repeater it will just about get the bell in the
workshop to ring. But after a month or so it won't ring the bell in the
workshop. I'm wondering if I can get a second repeater positioned at the
back door (ie nearer the workshop) which would be activated by the first
repeater in the hall. Can this be done or doesn't it work like that?

Thanks
John

"Nodge" wrote in message
...
I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on
the front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft
away. The trouble is the house is in the way and I don't get anything like
the range that they state on the packaging. I'm currently using a Byron
doorbell with the bell units which plug into the mains. I also have a
battery powered repeater (is that what it's called?) which is supposed to
extend the range.The repeater is positioned on the wall between the
kitchen
and the hall and is about 15ft from the doorbell. Any further away and it
doesn't seem to work- and that's with a new battery in the bell push. With
new batteries in the repeater it will just about get the bell in the
workshop to ring. But after a month or so it won't ring the bell in the
workshop. I'm wondering if I can get a second repeater positioned at the
back door (ie nearer the workshop) which would be activated by the first
repeater in the hall. Can this be done or doesn't it work like that?

Thanks
John


I don't think you can set another repeater to be activated by the first
repeater, because the repeaters are set to activate from the frequency of
the push button, not the repeater system. What you are asking for is going
to be expensive. Wireless products are now set at short range license free
frequencies, unless it is an alarm / security device.

The only place I can think of to get a long range wireless system, is here
http://doorchimes.co.uk/ who have radio frequency "door entry" systems that
work up to hundreds of metres, because they have been classed as security
devices. But they are expensive. In the region of 200 pounds if I recall
right. But they will work without problem in the type of situation you
have.

We have installed these on warehouse sites which needed internal calling
from gates over 50 to 60 mtrs away from the office suites. The one we chose
to for this is
http://doorchimesuk.co.uk/catalog/pr...roducts_id=244
Which is still working great after a year and a bit on the Superstore Supply
Warehouse near Bathgate in Scotland. (on searching the website for the
ones we used, I was 6 pounds off. It's actually 206.95 pounds +P&P. But
it's guaranteed to work without problems.) :-((

On Nov 27, 1:56 pm, "Nodge" wrote:
I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on
the front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft
away.

But this is uk.d-i-y. Run a 60 foot wire to your workshop. Problem
solved

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:10:33 GMT, BigWallop wrote:

I don't think you can set another repeater to be activated by the first
repeater, because the repeaters are set to activate from the frequency
of the push button, not the repeater system.

Not convinced. The repeator really needs to be told the code of the device
to repeat otherwise it'll repeat all the other stuff on the same frequency
(wireless alarm sensors, garage door openers etc). Also the repeator is
talking to a standard sounder unit so it has to transmit on that
frequency, the same as it receives from the door push.

This sort of indicates that you might be able to cascade repeators but
maybe not as the first repeator would hear the second and repeat that call
for the second to repeat for the first to hear...

Only solution is to ask Byron.

You say workshop, implies mains is available. Have you tried any of the
"wireless" door bells that use mains wiring for sending the call signal
rather than RF? (I think they exist...). Workshop sounder and place where
door is would need to be on same phase.

--
Cheers
Dave.

"Matty F" wrote in message
...
On Nov 27, 1:56 pm, "Nodge" wrote:
I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried
a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on
the front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft
away.

But this is uk.d-i-y. Run a 60 foot wire to your workshop. Problem
solved

This is diy..
run a 60 ft string to the workshop and hang some cans on it.
Attach to a crank on a small motor on the door bell circuit so it shakes
them when the bell rings.
You can run the string around the top of the fences so it acts as an alarm
system too.

Nodge wrote:
I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on
the front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft
away. The trouble is the house is in the way and I don't get anything like
the range that they state on the packaging. I'm currently using a Byron
doorbell with the bell units which plug into the mains. I also have a
battery powered repeater (is that what it's called?) which is supposed to
extend the range.The repeater is positioned on the wall between the kitchen
and the hall and is about 15ft from the doorbell. Any further away and it
doesn't seem to work- and that's with a new battery in the bell push. With
new batteries in the repeater it will just about get the bell in the
workshop to ring. But after a month or so it won't ring the bell in the
workshop. I'm wondering if I can get a second repeater positioned at the
back door (ie nearer the workshop) which would be activated by the first
repeater in the hall. Can this be done or doesn't it work like that?

Thanks
John


I have come across this problem in a school where I work. Connection
was required over about 30m, but withthree brick walls in the way a 100m
range bell would not work. We had to site the bell so that there were
only two walls in the way for it to work.

As a possible solution, buy a wireless doorbell extender. This conects
to a normal wired doorbell sysytem, and has a wireless receiver. Put a
wired push on the front door and connect it to the extender at the back
of the house woth line of sight to the receiver.

Malcolm

Dave Liquorice pretended :
You say workshop, implies mains is available. Have you tried any of the
"wireless" door bells that use mains wiring for sending the call signal
rather than RF? (I think they exist...). Workshop sounder and place where
door is would need to be on same phase.

The mains signalling units tend not to work very well where there are
lots of filters around, filters as fitted to the likes of PC's,
printers and displays etc..

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Nodge has brought this to us :
I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on the
front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft away.
The trouble is the house is in the way and I don't get anything like the
range that they state on the packaging. I'm currently using a Byron doorbell
with the bell units which plug into the mains. I also have a battery powered
repeater (is that what it's called?) which is supposed to extend the
range.The repeater is positioned on the wall between the kitchen and the hall
and is about 15ft from the doorbell. Any further away and it doesn't seem to
work- and that's with a new battery in the bell push. With new batteries in
the repeater it will just about get the bell in the workshop to ring. But
after a month or so it won't ring the bell in the workshop.

The commercial section of Friedland do some of the more reliable long
range ones. Friedland have stopped selling range repeaters/extenders as
they caused so many problems with their misuse.

One thing you could do (and not strictly legal for licence free
devices), is to install the bell push where it is in range of the bell,
at the back, then wire from across the push contact to an ordinary bell
push button at the front.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
ll.net:

On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:10:33 GMT, BigWallop wrote:

I don't think you can set another repeater to be activated by the
first repeater, because the repeaters are set to activate from the
frequency of the push button, not the repeater system.

Not convinced. The repeator really needs to be told the code of the
device to repeat otherwise it'll repeat all the other stuff on the
same frequency (wireless alarm sensors, garage door openers etc). Also
the repeator is talking to a standard sounder unit so it has to
transmit on that frequency, the same as it receives from the door
push.

This sort of indicates that you might be able to cascade repeators but
maybe not as the first repeator would hear the second and repeat that
call for the second to repeat for the first to hear...

Only solution is to ask Byron.

I *think* some of the Byron units are compatible with the 'HomeEasy' range
which includes a repeater unit. The downside is that you might have to go
to B&Q to buy them....
I'm told that the HomeEasy advice line people are helpful.
Telephone: +44 (0) 1527 55 77 22
Email:
Address: HomeEasy
34, Sherwood Rd
Aston Fields
Bromsgrove
B60 3DR
taken from http://homeeasy.eu/support.php

In message , Nodge
writes
I work from home in a workshop at the bottom of my garden and have tried a
number of wireless doorbells without too much success. The doorbell is on
the front door as you would expect and my workshop is probably about 60ft
away. The trouble is the house is in the way and I don't get anything like
the range that they state on the packaging.

Which ones have you tried? some of the Friedland ones claim an upto 200m
range.

I'm currently using a Byron
doorbell with the bell units which plug into the mains.

Whats wrong with using that then?

I also have a
battery powered repeater (is that what it's called?) which is supposed to
extend the range.The repeater is positioned on the wall between the kitchen
and the hall and is about 15ft from the doorbell. Any further away and it
doesn't seem to work- and that's with a new battery in the bell push.
hop
You can get well with Friedland ones, I guess other makes as well) an
internal transmitter that you use instead of the external bell push -
for using a different push etc. I assume this can be mounted on the end
of a cable. I wonder if it could be mounted in the house nearer to the
workshop.

--
Chris French

Thanks for all the comments. The Byron system I have with the
extender/repeater is claimed to have a max range of 200m. This is obviously
for those of us who live in a field. If you live in a house with brick walls
then this reduces the range enormously. The distance from my doorbell to the
workshop is 30m tops. With all new batteries and the extender positioned
just right then it does work but it is at the limit of it's range and after
a couple of months when the batteries start losing their charge then it
becomes very intermittent. Trouble is you never really know it isn't working
until delivery men start dropping cards through your letterbox.. I've asked
the question about using a second extender to Byron's tech support so we'll
see what they say. Maybe the simplest option is just to get some decent
rechargeable batteries and just keep swapping them over say once a month.

John

Owain wrote:
Nodge wrote:
Thanks for all the comments. The Byron system I have with the
extender/repeater is claimed to have a max range of 200m. This is
obviously
for those of us who live in a field.
....
Maybe the simplest option is just to get some decent
rechargeable batteries and just keep swapping them over say once a month.

Why not get a couple of cheap CB radios, one in the house with a tone
generator wired between the bell push and the audio input, and one in
the shed/whatever. Or the PMR446 walkie talkies might have enough range.

Owain


Or run a speaking tube from somewhere near the existing bell/sounder to
the shed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaking_tube

(Be warned about the 'improper purposes'. :-) )

--
Rod

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