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brass monkey November 19th 08 09:14 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325



[email protected] November 19th 08 09:51 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
brass monkey wrote:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325


If the ballast is dimmable. Most arent tho.


NT

Rod November 19th 08 09:55 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
wrote:
brass monkey wrote:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325

If the ballast is dimmable. Most arent tho.


NT


I get the feeling that 10 amps of fluorescent lighting would certainly
need some dimming!

Surely should read ONE-point-ZERO amps, n'est pas?

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Andrew Gabriel November 20th 08 08:29 AM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
In article ,
"brass monkey" writes:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325


No, it's probably a cut-n-paste error from a switch description.

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The Medway Handyman November 20th 08 09:04 AM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"brass monkey" writes:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325


No, it's probably a cut-n-paste error from a switch description.


Wickes are well known (by me anyway) for inccurate descriptions. Taptool "
suitable for backnuts & compression nuts" - it isn't. "Chisels "honed &
ready for use" - they aren't.


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[email protected] November 20th 08 11:52 AM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"brass monkey" writes:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325


No, it's probably a cut-n-paste error from a switch description.


Wickes are well known (by me anyway) for inccurate descriptions. Taptool "
suitable for backnuts & compression nuts" - it isn't. "Chisels "honed &
ready for use" - they aren't.


and more seriously WBP, which isnt remotely WBP


NT

The Medway Handyman November 20th 08 06:14 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"brass monkey" writes:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325

No, it's probably a cut-n-paste error from a switch description.


Wickes are well known (by me anyway) for inccurate descriptions.
Taptool " suitable for backnuts & compression nuts" - it isn't.
"Chisels "honed & ready for use" - they aren't.


and more seriously WBP, which isnt remotely WBP


Ah yes that as well!


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Sylvain VAN DER WALDE November 20th 08 07:56 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 

wrote in message
...
brass monkey wrote:
This can't be right, can it?

"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...ay/invt/711325

If the ballast is dimmable. Most arent tho.


NT


Please tell us about dimmable ballasts.
Any websites?

Sylvain.



Andrew Gabriel November 23rd 08 10:34 AM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
In article ,
"Sylvain VAN DER WALDE" writes:

Please tell us about dimmable ballasts.
Any websites?


There are plenty of dimmable electronic ballasts. They don't use
conventional filament lamp dimmers though.

Simplest is the type which use a 0-10V DC control voltage, and
most ballasts produce a low current 10V supply so you can do
this with just a simple low power potentiometer if you're just
controlling the one ballast, although you'll need a separate
10V supply if you're ganging several ballasts to dim together.
This method is now regarded as out of date.

There are also DSI and DALI digital interfaces which use a low
voltage serial digital signalling interface between a controller
and the ballasts.

Some ballasts support multiple methods, e.g. DSI and simple
push-button up/down dimming.

I don't know of a supplier. I have used Burnlite, but they now
say they won't supply the public anymore (although I haven't
actually tried since then). Of course a recession in the building
trade might change their minds. Make sure you're sitting down
when you get the prices -- dimming ballasts are pretty much only
used in top-end expensive commercial installations, and are not
price sensitive commodity items.

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Dave Plowman (News) November 23rd 08 12:55 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
In article ,
Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
Please tell us about dimmable ballasts.


I've got Osram ones in the kitchen under the cupboards lighting the
worktops. Had them for several years now, without a tube failure which
seems excellent considering their use - they tend to get left on as a
'there's someone at home' light when I go out. Near enough instant start,
no flicker and cool running.
However, they don't use a conventional dimmer - they use low voltage DC
as a control so all you need is a simple potentiometer. Which would mean
extra wiring if you want the dimmer where the room light switch is.

Any websites?


http://www.bltdirect.com/products.php?cat=499

They are quite expensive compared to 'ordinary' ballasts - but the higher
efficiency and longer tube life might well pay off after a while,
especially if using more expensive colour matching tubes.

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Andrew Gabriel November 23rd 08 01:57 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
In article ,
"Dave Plowman (News)" writes:
In article ,
Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
Any websites?


http://www.bltdirect.com/products.php?cat=499

They are quite expensive compared to 'ordinary' ballasts - but the higher
efficiency and longer tube life might well pay off after a while,
especially if using more expensive colour matching tubes.


I know I also said they're expensive, but those prices
are completely OTT.

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Dave Plowman (News) November 23rd 08 03:05 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
In article ,
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
http://www.bltdirect.com/products.php?cat=499

They are quite expensive compared to 'ordinary' ballasts - but the
higher efficiency and longer tube life might well pay off after a
while, especially if using more expensive colour matching tubes.


I know I also said they're expensive, but those prices
are completely OTT.


I didn't really look at their prices. I got mine from a mate who runs a
small supplier - excellent for this sort of thing that few ordinary
wholesalers stock.

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Sylvain VAN DER WALDE December 18th 08 09:16 PM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Sylvain VAN DER WALDE wrote:
Please tell us about dimmable ballasts.


I've got Osram ones in the kitchen under the cupboards lighting the
worktops. Had them for several years now, without a tube failure which
seems excellent considering their use - they tend to get left on as a
'there's someone at home' light when I go out. Near enough instant start,
no flicker and cool running.
However, they don't use a conventional dimmer - they use low voltage DC
as a control so all you need is a simple potentiometer. Which would mean
extra wiring if you want the dimmer where the room light switch is.

Any websites?


http://www.bltdirect.com/products.php?cat=499


Thanks for that.
Again, sorry for the delay in replying.
Sylvain.

They are quite expensive compared to 'ordinary' ballasts - but the higher
efficiency and longer tube life might well pay off after a while,
especially if using more expensive colour matching tubes.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.




Adam Aglionby December 19th 08 01:03 AM

Wickes dimmer can be used on fluorescents?
 
On 20 Nov, 19:56, "Sylvain VAN DER WALDE"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
brass monkey wrote:
This can't be right, can it?


"10 amp rated-suitable for fluorescent lighting"


http://www.wickes.co.uk/Shelving+Sto...Dimmer-2-Gang-...


If the ballast is dimmable. Most arent tho.


NT


Please tell us about dimmable ballasts.
Any websites?

Sylvain.


Try `dimmable ballast` on ebay ;-)

Adam


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