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GPG[_2_] November 14th 08 03:04 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
If this is OT, does anyone know where I should post?

My car radio/cassette player has taken to switching itself on and off at
random, even when stationary with the ignition turned off (this latter
drains the battery). Since it doesn't lose the security code when it
switches off, I feel that it cannot be losing connection to the battery. I
have, of course, removed it from the car.

Has anybody seen this sort of behaviour, or have any good ideas. I'd be
grateful.

GPG



Adrian November 14th 08 03:09 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"GPG" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

If this is OT, does anyone know where I should post?

My car radio/cassette player has taken to switching itself on and off at
random, even when stationary with the ignition turned off (this latter
drains the battery). Since it doesn't lose the security code when it
switches off, I feel that it cannot be losing connection to the battery.
I have, of course, removed it from the car.

Has anybody seen this sort of behaviour, or have any good ideas. I'd be
grateful.


Don't even waste the time & effort on it. Just lob it and get a new one
from one of the online suppliers - caraudiodirect or incarexpress or
similar.

We chucked a new Sony radio/CD/iPod head unit in 'erselfs car last year
for £80.

[email protected] November 14th 08 03:22 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:04:59 -0000, "GPG" wrote:

If this is OT, does anyone know where I should post?

My car radio/cassette player has taken to switching itself on and off at
random, even when stationary with the ignition turned off (this latter
drains the battery). Since it doesn't lose the security code when it
switches off, I feel that it cannot be losing connection to the battery. I
have, of course, removed it from the car.

Has anybody seen this sort of behaviour, or have any good ideas. I'd be
grateful.

GPG


Until I read about it doing it when stationary I was going to suggest
an ill fitting removeable faceplate if it had one .

[email protected] November 14th 08 03:55 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
Are there any wiring bodges?

A common wiring problem is the red (power) and yellow (standby power)
wires shorting together, deliberately joined or transposed.

Dave Liquorice[_2_] November 14th 08 03:56 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
On 14 Nov 2008 15:09:45 GMT, Adrian wrote:

Don't even waste the time & effort on it.


That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have standard
euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the dash, at least on
the outside.

I'd look for an intermittent supply connection fed via the aux position of
the ignition switch, (loose/corroded fuse). There is normally a separate
supply to maintain the memory/code.

--
Cheers
Dave.




Adrian November 14th 08 04:04 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
" gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Are there any wiring bodges?

A common wiring problem is the red (power) and yellow (standby power)


ITYM "Memory" and "Ignition live"

wires shorting together, deliberately joined or transposed.


Joined isn't a problem - you'll just have a head unit that can be used
with the ignition off.
Shorting together'd just get you a head unit that might sometimes stay on
or come on when the ignition's off.
Transposed will just give you a head unit that can be switched on when
the ignition's off, but only keeps the memory when the ignition's on...

(Assuming, of course, there's no way for the ignition live to feed back
into the rest of the car's electrics.)

Adrian November 14th 08 04:17 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"Dave Liquorice" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Don't even waste the time & effort on it.


That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have standard
euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the dash, at least
on the outside.


....and cheap and easily available facia adaptors...

ARWadsworth November 14th 08 04:26 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"Dave Liquorice" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Don't even waste the time & effort on it.


That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have standard
euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the dash, at least
on the outside.


...and cheap and easily available facia adaptors...


Never thought of that. Just what I need for my van. Do you have any
recommended suppliers (I will also of course Google myself)

Adam



gazz November 14th 08 04:41 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"GPG" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

If this is OT, does anyone know where I should post?

My car radio/cassette player has taken to switching itself on and off at
random, even when stationary with the ignition turned off (this latter
drains the battery). Since it doesn't lose the security code when it
switches off, I feel that it cannot be losing connection to the battery.
I have, of course, removed it from the car.

Has anybody seen this sort of behaviour, or have any good ideas. I'd be
grateful.


Don't even waste the time & effort on it. Just lob it and get a new one
from one of the online suppliers - caraudiodirect or incarexpress or
similar.


your gonna be mighty ****ed off when your new headunit displays the same
symptons tho if the fault it the wiring in the car.

bit like saying put a new engine in the car when you have a blocked fuel
filter :)


Dave Plowman (News) November 14th 08 05:40 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In article ,
Adrian wrote:
Joined isn't a problem - you'll just have a head unit that can be used
with the ignition off. Shorting together'd just get you a head unit that
might sometimes stay on or come on when the ignition's off. Transposed
will just give you a head unit that can be switched on when the
ignition's off, but only keeps the memory when the ignition's on...


(Assuming, of course, there's no way for the ignition live to feed back
into the rest of the car's electrics.)


It's not quite that simple. Many these days will work for a timed period
with the ignition off - for when you leave a passenger in the car, etc.
Mine does.

--
*Never miss a good chance to shut up.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Adrian November 14th 08 05:48 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have
standard euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the
dash, at least on the outside.


...and cheap and easily available facia adaptors...


Never thought of that. Just what I need for my van. Do you have any
recommended suppliers (I will also of course Google myself)


Only those I gave in the first reply... grin
CarAudioDirect & InCarExpress.

Adrian November 14th 08 05:48 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"gazz" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

your gonna be mighty ****ed off when your new headunit displays the same
symptons tho if the fault it the wiring in the car.


Which is most unlikely.

Adrian November 14th 08 05:56 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

Joined isn't a problem - you'll just have a head unit that can be used
with the ignition off. Shorting together'd just get you a head unit
that might sometimes stay on or come on when the ignition's off.
Transposed will just give you a head unit that can be switched on when
the ignition's off, but only keeps the memory when the ignition's on...


(Assuming, of course, there's no way for the ignition live to feed back
into the rest of the car's electrics.)


It's not quite that simple. Many these days will work for a timed period
with the ignition off - for when you leave a passenger in the car, etc.
Mine does.


Still that simple - a permanent live, and an ignition switched live.

ARWadsworth November 14th 08 06:08 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have
standard euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the
dash, at least on the outside.


...and cheap and easily available facia adaptors...


Never thought of that. Just what I need for my van. Do you have any
recommended suppliers (I will also of course Google myself)


Only those I gave in the first reply... grin
CarAudioDirect & InCarExpress.


Without the www. before them I missed them. Point taken and thankyou

Adam



ARWadsworth November 14th 08 06:30 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have
standard euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the
dash, at least on the outside.


...and cheap and easily available facia adaptors...


Never thought of that. Just what I need for my van. Do you have any
recommended suppliers (I will also of course Google myself)


Only those I gave in the first reply... grin
CarAudioDirect & InCarExpress.


Any ideas on keeping the top display working, the one with the time,
temperature and radio station with a new unit.

Adam



Adrian November 14th 08 06:34 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

Any ideas on keeping the top display working, the one with the time,
temperature and radio station with a new unit.


You can get display & wheel remote adaptors for many head units.

The Medway Handyman November 14th 08 06:56 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
Adrian wrote:
"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

That may be easier said than done. Modern cars tend not to have
standard euro sized radios but things shaped and sized to fit the
dash, at least on the outside.


...and cheap and easily available facia adaptors...


Never thought of that. Just what I need for my van. Do you have any
recommended suppliers (I will also of course Google myself)


Only those I gave in the first reply... grin
CarAudioDirect & InCarExpress.


Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't want
CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Adrian C November 14th 08 07:01 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
Adrian wrote:
"ARWadsworth" gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

Any ideas on keeping the top display working, the one with the time,
temperature and radio station with a new unit.


You can get display & wheel remote adaptors for many head units.


On my old Renault, removing the old radio just removed the radio station
display. The time & temperature still displayed OK, and I just ignored
using the stalk controls.

--
Adrian C

Adrian C November 14th 08 07:08 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
The Medway Handyman wrote:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't want
CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?


One of these, perhaps?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160296745967

"It works conventionally on the medium and light waves."

--
Adrian C

Adrian November 14th 08 07:21 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't
want CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?


Do they still make 'em? When name-brand MP3/CD/tuners with RDS are less
than £40, why bother?

Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) November 15th 08 08:45 AM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In article , ARWadsworth
wrote:

Any ideas on keeping the top display working, the one with the time,
temperature and radio station with a new unit.



Have a look at the Connects2 website. They do all sorts of combinations to
keep your original controls and dispalys. I have one of their interfaces to
run a Sony Minidisc changer from the BMW radio cassette unit on my
motorcycle. Works well.

http://www.connects2.com

--
AJL Electronics (G6FGO) Ltd : Satellite and TV aerial systems
http://www.classicmicrocars.co.uk : http://www.ajlelectronics.co.uk


The Medway Handyman November 15th 08 09:03 AM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
Adrian wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't
want CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?


Do they still make 'em? When name-brand MP3/CD/tuners with RDS are
less than £40, why bother?


Cos all I ever do is listen to the radio 2 & 4 and I don't want 47 buttons I
don't understand, 18 special features I'll never use and a 'demo mode'
screen showing gibberish that I can't turn off.

And I'd rather have £40 worth of radio, not £5 worth of radio & £35 worth of
other stuff.

Bit like mobile phones innit? Try buying one that just makes phone
calls....



--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk



Dave Plowman (News) November 15th 08 09:49 AM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Adrian wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't
want CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?


Do they still make 'em? When name-brand MP3/CD/tuners with RDS are
less than £40, why bother?


Cos all I ever do is listen to the radio 2 & 4 and I don't want 47
buttons I don't understand, 18 special features I'll never use and a
'demo mode' screen showing gibberish that I can't turn off.


And I'd rather have £40 worth of radio, not £5 worth of radio & £35
worth of other stuff.


It's economies of scale. Making a few thousand basic radios could make
them more expensive than a mass produced more sophisticated one. And since
the majority of designs will be for OEM, most would feel ripped off if
their new car came with a basic radio.

Bit like mobile phones innit? Try buying one that just makes phone
calls....


And why are they all so small? Don't they realise older people use them
too? ;-)

--
*The e-mail of the species is more deadly than the mail *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Grimly Curmudgeon November 15th 08 03:23 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian C
saying something like:

One of these, perhaps?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160296745967

"It works conventionally on the medium and light waves."


Holy ****e! Is that what they're fetching now? I've got one of them
languishing in the workshop and has been for years, providing choons.

geoff November 15th 08 09:47 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In message , Grimly Curmudgeon
writes
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian C
saying something like:

One of these, perhaps?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160296745967

"It works conventionally on the medium and light waves."


Holy ****e! Is that what they're fetching now? I've got one of them
languishing in the workshop and has been for years, providing choons.


'kin 'ell

I threw a couple of them in a skip a couple of months ago

--
geoff

geoff November 15th 08 09:51 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Adrian wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't
want CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?

Do they still make 'em? When name-brand MP3/CD/tuners with RDS are
less than £40, why bother?


Cos all I ever do is listen to the radio 2 & 4 and I don't want 47
buttons I don't understand, 18 special features I'll never use and a
'demo mode' screen showing gibberish that I can't turn off.


And I'd rather have £40 worth of radio, not £5 worth of radio & £35
worth of other stuff.


It's economies of scale. Making a few thousand basic radios could make
them more expensive than a mass produced more sophisticated one. And since
the majority of designs will be for OEM, most would feel ripped off if
their new car came with a basic radio.

Bit like mobile phones innit? Try buying one that just makes phone
calls....


And why are they all so small? Don't they realise older people use them
too? ;-)

Even normal "wander" phones, I've just replaced my old ones at work
which were "normal" size (about 8-9" long" with some piddly little ones
which won't cradle in the shoulder properly

Oh for such a beast as a reasonably priced wireless headphone


--
geoff

Rod November 15th 08 10:01 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
geoff wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Adrian wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't
want CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?

Do they still make 'em? When name-brand MP3/CD/tuners with RDS are
less than £40, why bother?


Cos all I ever do is listen to the radio 2 & 4 and I don't want 47
buttons I don't understand, 18 special features I'll never use and a
'demo mode' screen showing gibberish that I can't turn off.


And I'd rather have £40 worth of radio, not £5 worth of radio & £35
worth of other stuff.


It's economies of scale. Making a few thousand basic radios could make
them more expensive than a mass produced more sophisticated one. And
since
the majority of designs will be for OEM, most would feel ripped off if
their new car came with a basic radio.

Bit like mobile phones innit? Try buying one that just makes phone
calls....


And why are they all so small? Don't they realise older people use them
too? ;-)

Even normal "wander" phones, I've just replaced my old ones at work
which were "normal" size (about 8-9" long" with some piddly little ones
which won't cradle in the shoulder properly

Oh for such a beast as a reasonably priced wireless headphone


What do you mean by reasonably priced? £26.94 Inc VAT

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=894304&Product=PHILIPS+B LUETOOTH+HEADSETS+SHB6100

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Dave Liquorice[_2_] November 15th 08 10:14 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:23:48 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

Holy ****e! Is that what they're fetching now? I've got one of them
languishing in the workshop and has been for years, providing choons.


Holy ****e indeed, I had a similar basic car radio knocking about in a box
some where but I think it's gone to the tip. If it hasn't...

--
Cheers
Dave.




geoff November 15th 08 11:13 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In message , Rod
writes
geoff wrote:
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Adrian wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" gurgled
happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Don't spose you know where I can get a basic cheaap car radio, don't
want CD, DVD, I Pod, just radio?

Do they still make 'em? When name-brand MP3/CD/tuners with RDS are
less than £40, why bother?

Cos all I ever do is listen to the radio 2 & 4 and I don't want 47
buttons I don't understand, 18 special features I'll never use and a
'demo mode' screen showing gibberish that I can't turn off.

And I'd rather have £40 worth of radio, not £5 worth of radio & £35
worth of other stuff.

It's economies of scale. Making a few thousand basic radios could make
them more expensive than a mass produced more sophisticated one. And
since
the majority of designs will be for OEM, most would feel ripped off if
their new car came with a basic radio.

Bit like mobile phones innit? Try buying one that just makes phone
calls....

And why are they all so small? Don't they realise older people use them
too? ;-)

Even normal "wander" phones, I've just replaced my old ones at work
which were "normal" size (about 8-9" long" with some piddly little
ones which won't cradle in the shoulder properly
Oh for such a beast as a reasonably priced wireless headphone


What do you mean by reasonably priced? £26.94 Inc VAT

http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?W...oduct=PHILIPS+
BLUETOOTH+HEADSETS+SHB6100

.... for a mobile phone or PC, not a normal landline


--
geoff

Dave Plowman (News) November 15th 08 11:25 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
In article et,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Holy ****e! Is that what they're fetching now? I've got one of them
languishing in the workshop and has been for years, providing choons.


Holy ****e indeed, I had a similar basic car radio knocking about in a
box some where but I think it's gone to the tip. If it hasn't...


I can only guess the fancy price was because it was modified to give an
aux input.

--
*The longest recorded flightof a chicken is thirteen seconds *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Grimly Curmudgeon November 16th 08 01:20 AM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dave Plowman (News)"
saying something like:

In article et,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Holy ****e! Is that what they're fetching now? I've got one of them
languishing in the workshop and has been for years, providing choons.


Holy ****e indeed, I had a similar basic car radio knocking about in a
box some where but I think it's gone to the tip. If it hasn't...


I can only guess the fancy price was because it was modified to give an
aux input.


Five minute's work with an iron and two hundred quid better off.

Ian White November 16th 08 07:59 AM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article et,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
Holy ****e! Is that what they're fetching now? I've got one of them
languishing in the workshop and has been for years, providing choons.


Holy ****e indeed, I had a similar basic car radio knocking about in a
box some where but I think it's gone to the tip. If it hasn't...


I can only guess the fancy price was because it was modified to give an
aux input.


More likely because it was claimed to cover both medium wave and light
wave. Not too many of that model around.


--
Ian White

Grimly Curmudgeon November 16th 08 02:07 PM

Car radio switches on/off at random - possibly OT
 
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ian White
saying something like:

More likely because it was claimed to cover both medium wave and light
wave. Not too many of that model around.


Troo.
Relatedly, I have a model which covers VHF & Local Radio - rare as hen's
teeth.


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