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just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George"
wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. 4 half tubes of glue? What do I win? All the best .. T i m |
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George wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? I rather liked the stuff in two syringes - is it still available? No I never cut myself. Now if it was superglue you could use that on the cut. ;-) -- *How come you never hear about gruntled employees? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"T i m" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George" wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. 4 half tubes of glue? What do I win? All the best .. T i m Half a Blue Peter badge. The blade slipped and went the full lenght of one of the tubes. :-( will masking tape round the tube stop it from going solid? it being a two part expoxy. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , George wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? I rather liked the stuff in two syringes - is it still available? Yes,but the place I got this did na have any. No I never cut myself. Now if it was superglue you could use that on the cut. ;-) -- *How come you never hear about gruntled employees? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George"
wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. You applied it to the job and found it never really set? Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On Aug 20, 6:06*pm, Stephen Howard wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George" wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. You applied it to the job and found it never really set? Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorationswww.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk Not as bad as me! My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel. This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover! Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart. Next time read the instructions! |
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George wrote:
"T i m" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George" wrote: just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. 4 half tubes of glue? What do I win? All the best .. T i m Half a Blue Peter badge. The blade slipped and went the full lenght of one of the tubes. :-( will masking tape round the tube stop it from going solid? it being a two part expoxy. Yes. For a while. |
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In message , George
writes just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. You got abducted by aliens ? -- geoff |
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chudford wrote:
Not as bad as me! My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel. This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover! Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart. Next time read the instructions! Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me... -- Ian White |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:45:12 +0100, geoff wrote:
In message , George writes just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? No I never cut myself. You got abducted by aliens ? Silly sod. ;-) All the best .. T i m |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:54:32 +0100, Ian White
wrote: chudford wrote: Not as bad as me! My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel. This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover! Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart. Next time read the instructions! Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me... And around 60 years on, Evo-Stik is about as efficient a glue as Deep Heat. There's progress for ya... Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:54:32 +0100, Ian White
wrote: chudford wrote: Not as bad as me! My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel. This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover! Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart. Next time read the instructions! Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me... In front of me I keep a tiny bottle of superglue and a similarly small bottle of 'Vital Eyes' soother for contact lens users. I make a point of double checking before I use either... -- Frank Erskine |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:04:41 +0000, Stephen Howard
wrote: And around 60 years on, Evo-Stik is about as efficient a glue as Deep Heat. Well, whilst I can't say I've tried Deep Heat as an adhesive g I will say I've used Evo-Stick with great success on one application in particular. When making up battery packs for RC Model racing cars I lay the cells out in whatever format is required then run Evo-Stick between them. When set(ish) I turn the pack over and repeat on the reverse. I might apply that a couple of times and when finished (and cured for a couple of days) you have a pack that will generally tear the outer wrap off the cells before the glue will give up. Some folk use Super Glue (as it cures faster) but it is very rigid and offers no give when yer car goes from 35 mph to 0 mph against an immovable object (wall, table, marshals foot etc). :-( You are reminded how well it sticks if/when you try to split the pack up again later. Apart from that, no, I don't use Evo-Stick for much these days. ;-) All the best .. T i m |
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T i m wrote: When making up battery packs for RC Model racing cars I lay the cells out in whatever format is required then run Evo-Stick between them. When set(ish) I turn the pack over and repeat on the reverse. I might apply that a couple of times and when finished (and cured for a couple of days) you have a pack that will generally tear the outer wrap off the cells before the glue will give up. Some folk use Super Glue (as it cures faster) but it is very rigid and offers no give when yer car goes from 35 mph to 0 mph against an immovable object (wall, table, marshals foot etc). :-( Have you tried hot melt? That's what I use for this sort of thing - no waiting for it to dry. -- *When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Worst heat seal DIY product was You dozy git
"George" wrote in message ... just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next? You took up glue sniffing ? I'd like to add that currently the worst/most difficult packaging I have found was on a pack of 25 lintels from B&Q. The plastic seemed excessively thick just to hold these small bits of metal. I used a pair of 'standard' kitchen scissors to cut along the top of the plastic, it was tough going but on the second cut the scissors broke at the rivet, so I had an unopened packet and two scissor pieces. I used a stanly knife in the end a proper metal handle one, the sort that would be illegal to carry around the street, in the pocket of your hoodie. Still never managed to open the packaging, so had to just rip in to it with the knife. |
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I recall reading about one in the local paper some years back.
Someone bought a pair of airosol cans on offer and shrinkwrapped together. She used a knife to separate them, which punctured one of the cans, which exploded apart once punctured. The butane propellant caught light, burning off her hair. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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Ian White wrote:
chudford wrote: Not as bad as me! My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel. This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover! Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart. Next time read the instructions! Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me... I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's being in an aerosol can that looked exactly like my mums hair spray... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:01:03 +0000, Stephen Howard
wrote: I guess I'm what you'd call a 'Professional user' of the stuff - for the last 30 odd years I've been glueing small bits of cork and felt to various woodwind instruments with Evo-Stik - it used to be the perfect glue; reasonably easy to apply, readily available, quick to set and very tenacious. From stripping an existing piece of cork to cutting a new one and sticking it in place ready to be cut or sanded would take barely a minute or so - but when they shifted over to the 'new, improved' formula I began to have failures all over the place. Corks would rip off during sanding or move when being cut - and no amount of technique modification would result in as reliable a job as the old formula gave me. I got so teed off by it that I rang up Evo-Stik in a fit of indignation the other day and told their tech. dept. rep. that their new glue was 'rubbish'. It's all down to the Toluene. It's not there any more, they had to remove it due to insert H&S/Europanic/Nanny State reason here - and so 'New, faster drying formula' actually means 'It's not as good any more'. Isn't that really sad. You're obviously a professional user of adhesives (glue!), who has used it satisfactorily for decades. Once again 'we' (as English/British/'Europeans') are forbidden to practice our crafts purely because of the whims of politicians who take notice solely of lawyer-types (usually French or thereabouts) who seem to run the whole show. It's exactly the same with 'lead-free' solder (and paint), creosote and so on. I agree entirely with you about 'new' Evo-Stik. It seems little more effective than Gloy paste (and more difficult to use). So I did the only thing left open to me - got on Ebay and bought as many tins of the old stuff as I could. I got 18. All I really need to do now is source some squeezable ali tubes to decant the stuff into - but it seems that the only place you can get them from these days is the place in Ireland that makes them for...Evo-Stik! Empty toothpaste tubes? Will the Irish place supply you with empty tubes? If so, and you have a facility to fill 'em there's a business opportunity, if you can source more from Ebay... I wonder if it might be possible to get much the same stuff from a non-EU country (although HMR&C might raise an objection to importing anything useful and effective). ;-) -- Frank Erskine |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:54:55 +0100, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:04:41 +0000, Stephen Howard wrote: And around 60 years on, Evo-Stik is about as efficient a glue as Deep Heat. Well, whilst I can't say I've tried Deep Heat as an adhesive g I will say I've used Evo-Stick with great success on one application in particular. When making up battery packs for RC Model racing cars I lay the cells out in whatever format is required then run Evo-Stick between them. When set(ish) I turn the pack over and repeat on the reverse. I might apply that a couple of times and when finished (and cured for a couple of days) you have a pack that will generally tear the outer wrap off the cells before the glue will give up. Some folk use Super Glue (as it cures faster) but it is very rigid and offers no give when yer car goes from 35 mph to 0 mph against an immovable object (wall, table, marshals foot etc). :-( You are reminded how well it sticks if/when you try to split the pack up again later. Apart from that, no, I don't use Evo-Stick for much these days. ;-) I guess I'm what you'd call a 'Professional user' of the stuff - for the last 30 odd years I've been glueing small bits of cork and felt to various woodwind instruments with Evo-Stik - it used to be the perfect glue; reasonably easy to apply, readily available, quick to set and very tenacious. From stripping an existing piece of cork to cutting a new one and sticking it in place ready to be cut or sanded would take barely a minute or so - but when they shifted over to the 'new, improved' formula I began to have failures all over the place. Corks would rip off during sanding or move when being cut - and no amount of technique modification would result in as reliable a job as the old formula gave me. I got so teed off by it that I rang up Evo-Stik in a fit of indignation the other day and told their tech. dept. rep. that their new glue was 'rubbish'. It's all down to the Toluene. It's not there any more, they had to remove it due to insert H&S/Europanic/Nanny State reason here - and so 'New, faster drying formula' actually means 'It's not as good any more'. So I did the only thing left open to me - got on Ebay and bought as many tins of the old stuff as I could. I got 18. All I really need to do now is source some squeezable ali tubes to decant the stuff into - but it seems that the only place you can get them from these days is the place in Ireland that makes them for...Evo-Stik! Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:54:30 +0100, Frank Erskine
wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:01:03 +0000, Stephen Howard wrote: I guess I'm what you'd call a 'Professional user' of the stuff - for the last 30 odd years I've been glueing small bits of cork and felt to various woodwind instruments with Evo-Stik - it used to be the perfect glue; reasonably easy to apply, readily available, quick to set and very tenacious. From stripping an existing piece of cork to cutting a new one and sticking it in place ready to be cut or sanded would take barely a minute or so - but when they shifted over to the 'new, improved' formula I began to have failures all over the place. Corks would rip off during sanding or move when being cut - and no amount of technique modification would result in as reliable a job as the old formula gave me. snip Isn't that really sad. You're obviously a professional user of adhesives (glue!), who has used it satisfactorily for decades. Once again 'we' (as English/British/'Europeans') are forbidden to practice our crafts purely because of the whims of politicians who take notice solely of lawyer-types (usually French or thereabouts) who seem to run the whole show. It's exactly the same with 'lead-free' solder (and paint), creosote and so on. Apparently the Toluene was the solvent that gave the glue-sniffers their kicks ( I can see why, the old Evo-Stik smells much nicer than the new stuff ). As per usual it seems that the solution is to kow-tow to the lowest common denominator and get rid of the stuff that makes the glue work so that kids don't get smashed on it. And now they don't - but that doesn't bother them, they just move on to more lethal substances. I can still get leaded solder ( 60/40 or 70/30 ) within the trade, so that's not an issue yet - but it's already clear that lead-free solder is about as good as 'new, improved' Evo-Stik for my application. I agree entirely with you about 'new' Evo-Stik. It seems little more effective than Gloy paste (and more difficult to use). All I really need to do now is source some squeezable ali tubes to decant the stuff into - but it seems that the only place you can get them from these days is the place in Ireland that makes them for...Evo-Stik! Empty toothpaste tubes? Will the Irish place supply you with empty tubes? If so, and you have a facility to fill 'em there's a business opportunity, if you can source more from Ebay... I wonder if it might be possible to get much the same stuff from a non-EU country (although HMR&C might raise an objection to importing anything useful and effective). I'm thinking that plastic tubes won't sit well with the solvent in the glue, otherwise Evo-Stik would be using them already. Don't know if the Irish place will supply me - but it would be a simple order...just a batch of unmarked tubes. I suspect it'll be a trial filling and sealing them by hand though ( might be worth getting a few glue sniffers round for a 'Nostalgia evening' ). I should imagine that if, as it seems, Toluene has all but disappeared from the shelves then it means that the directive that caused that makes it illegal to sell certain products containing it. If that's not the case then I look forward to a new glue on the market that says on the tube 'Contains Toluene - so stick it!' I haven't checked out the possibilities of sourcing Toluene-based glues from non-EU countries, but I suspect the directive forbids import. I did see some flooring adhesive that contains it, but the stuff's too thick for my purposes - and I found a company that claims to have invented a Toluene substitute ( Formula66 )...so clearly it's a solvent that's still in demand. Regards, -- Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
Ian White wrote: Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me... I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's being in an aerosol can that looked exactly like my mums hair spray... Has there ever been such a thing as aerosol shoe polish? I have a vague childhood memory of my Dad (used to polish his uniform shoes every morning in the bedroom) ending up with black-polished arm-pits through a similar mistake. Come to think of it, maybe it was roller-ball deodorant and one of those liquid-polish bottles with a pad on the end. Pete |
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Owain wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote: I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's being in an aerosol can that looked exactly like my mums hair spray... Deodorant on your hair wouldn't have done you any harm ... The Medway Pratt is blowing it out of his arse, again. "Cossack" in the mid 60s was a male hairspray, not a deodorant. Although I wouldn't put it past him to have starched his armpits. And since I know the bleating prat is going to start whining that I'm wrong, here's the proof: http://store.vintagepaperads.com/catalog/Z038.jpg The deodorant didn't figure until later. |
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In message , Steve Firth
writes Owain wrote: The Medway Handyman wrote: I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's being in an aerosol can that looked exactly like my mums hair spray... Deodorant on your hair wouldn't have done you any harm ... The Medway Pratt is blowing it out of his arse, again. "Cossack" in the mid 60s was a male hairspray, not a deodorant. Although I wouldn't put it past him to have starched his armpits. And since I know the bleating prat is going to start whining that I'm wrong, here's the proof: http://store.vintagepaperads.com/catalog/Z038.jpg The deodorant didn't figure until later. ****ing hell girls - give it a rest -- geoff |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Pete Verdon d saying something like: Come to think of it, maybe it was roller-ball deodorant and one of those liquid-polish bottles with a pad on the end. NTNOCN... "I would like to purchase a deodorant." "Certainly, Sir. Ball or aerosol?" -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a "It's a moron working with power tools. How much more suspenseful can you get?" - House |
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