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I've got a conifer hedge which is about 6m long by 2.5m high
by 2m wide. I'm not sure what type of conifer -- I don't think
it's Leylandii as it doesn't grow that fast -- it only needs
one or occasionally two cuttings per year to keep it very
neat. I do normally keep it cut very square, but I noticed
brown areas on it earlier this year and wondered if I'd cut
it too much last year, so I've let it shoot a bit.

However, I've just heard about conifer aphids this year,
and the damage does seem to exactly fit with this. Reading
up, it seems I should cut the hedge as normal now, but not
in autumn (which I never do anyway). There's also talk of
getting trees sprayed - is that any good? I imagine spraying
something of this size effectively is a professional job?
Won't it all wash off next time it rains?

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I've got a conifer hedge which is about 6m long by 2.5m high
by 2m wide. I'm not sure what type of conifer -- I don't think
it's Leylandii as it doesn't grow that fast -- it only needs
one or occasionally two cuttings per year to keep it very
neat. I do normally keep it cut very square, but I noticed
brown areas on it earlier this year and wondered if I'd cut
it too much last year, so I've let it shoot a bit.

However, I've just heard about conifer aphids this year,
and the damage does seem to exactly fit with this. Reading
up, it seems I should cut the hedge as normal now, but not
in autumn (which I never do anyway). There's also talk of
getting trees sprayed - is that any good? I imagine spraying
something of this size effectively is a professional job?
Won't it all wash off next time it rains?


Conifers tend to go brown and manky if they're cut back too hard. My
experience of sprays for stuff that's not going to be eaten is that they're
surprisingly resistant to being washed off once they've dried on.

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I've got a conifer hedge which is about 6m long by 2.5m high
by 2m wide. I'm not sure what type of conifer -- I don't think
it's Leylandii as it doesn't grow that fast -- it only needs
one or occasionally two cuttings per year to keep it very
neat. I do normally keep it cut very square, but I noticed
brown areas on it earlier this year and wondered if I'd cut
it too much last year, so I've let it shoot a bit.


However, I've just heard about conifer aphids this year,
and the damage does seem to exactly fit with this. Reading
up, it seems I should cut the hedge as normal now, but not
in autumn (which I never do anyway). There's also talk of
getting trees sprayed - is that any good? I imagine spraying
something of this size effectively is a professional job?
Won't it all wash off next time it rains?


Conifers tend to go brown and manky if they're cut back too hard. My
experience of sprays for stuff that's *not going to be eaten is that they're
surprisingly resistant to being washed off once they've dried on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.

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I've got a conifer hedge which is about 6m long by 2.5m high
by 2m wide. I'm not sure what type of conifer -- I don't think
it's Leylandii as it doesn't grow that fast -- it only needs
one or occasionally two cuttings per year to keep it very
neat. I do normally keep it cut very square, but I noticed
brown areas on it earlier this year and wondered if I'd cut
it too much last year, so I've let it shoot a bit.


However, I've just heard about conifer aphids this year,
and the damage does seem to exactly fit with this. Reading
up, it seems I should cut the hedge as normal now, but not
in autumn (which I never do anyway). There's also talk of
getting trees sprayed - is that any good? I imagine spraying
something of this size effectively is a professional job?
Won't it all wash off next time it rains?


Conifers tend to go brown and manky if they're cut back too hard. My
experience of sprays for stuff that's *not going to be eaten is that they're
surprisingly resistant to being washed off once they've dried on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.

Simon


Yep it's called 'Iratus neighbourus'. ;-)

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I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


I hope it is fatal then :-))

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I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.



It is apparently due to aphids that are normally found in Spain, Italy
and the south of France but which are now making their homes in the
south of England as a result of climate change.

Heaven knows what this further influx of immigrants will do to the
housing market. ;-)

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On 11 Jul, 17:44, "Doki" wrote:
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[Already tried uk.rec.gardening]
I've got a conifer hedge which is about 6m long by 2.5m high
by 2m wide. I'm not sure what type of conifer -- I don't think
it's Leylandii as it doesn't grow that fast -- it only needs
one or occasionally two cuttings per year to keep it very
neat. I do normally keep it cut very square, but I noticed
brown areas on it earlier this year and wondered if I'd cut
it too much last year, so I've let it shoot a bit.
However, I've just heard about conifer aphids this year,
and the damage does seem to exactly fit with this. Reading
up, it seems I should cut the hedge as normal now, but not
in autumn (which I never do anyway). There's also talk of
getting trees sprayed - is that any good? I imagine spraying
something of this size effectively is a professional job?
Won't it all wash off next time it rains?

Conifers tend to go brown and manky if they're cut back too hard. My
experience of sprays for stuff that's not going to be eaten is that they're
surprisingly resistant to being washed off once they've dried on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


Simon

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I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


Yes, I think I heard it too. It's not just Leylandii though,
and this hedge is a conifer much slower growing and more dense
than Leylandii.

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Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.



The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

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On 13 Jul 2008 09:14:55 GMT, Huge wrote:

On 2008-07-12, Dave wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)


Just poison it and the owner will cut it down.


Cut away a strip of bark just below the ground

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Anna Kettle wrote:

On 13 Jul 2008 09:14:55 GMT, Huge wrote:


On 2008-07-12, Dave wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Bitstreams wrote:


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?

I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)


Just poison it and the owner will cut it down.



Cut away a strip of bark just below the ground



How does that work? It sounds like a good idea.

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:42:41 +0100, Dave wrote:

Anna Kettle wrote:

On 13 Jul 2008 09:14:55 GMT, Huge wrote:

On 2008-07-12, Dave wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Bitstreams wrote:


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?

I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

Just poison it and the owner will cut it down.


Cut away a strip of bark just below the ground


How does that work? It sounds like a good idea.

Dave


Cutting the bark ( a couple of inches around the trunk) off starves the
tree & eventually kills it. It's called ring barking or Girdling see;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girdling

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Dave wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Bitstreams wrote:


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)


Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
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|Dave wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Bitstreams wrote:
|
| I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
| think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
| (radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
| apparently.
|
| The chainsaw bug?
|
| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
| stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.

H.

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:50:21 +0100, HowieC
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
wrote:

|Dave wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Bitstreams wrote:
|
| I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
| think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
| (radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
| apparently.
|
| The chainsaw bug?
|
| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
| stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.


How do you hide it though?

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:50:21 +0100, HowieC
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
wrote:

|Dave wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Bitstreams wrote:
|
| I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
| think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
| (radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
| apparently.
|
| The chainsaw bug?
|
| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
| stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.


How do you hide it though?

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A chap I used to know drove a copper pipe from his garden under the fence &
in to the root structure of the offending tree. He then poured sulphuric
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HowieC wrote:

Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...


Both might take some time though.


Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.


I'm going to try that! The arse who lived next-door has trimmed
his leylandii hedge today, attempted to sweep the worse of the
cuttings off the top of my retaining wall, and ripped out all the
houseleek plants that have been growing there since last year.
I replaced them last year, after he swept the cuttings from my wall...

I'm getting fed up of this annual replacement of plants...and
who needs a bloody 14' hedge blocking all the sunlight from
their garden? I certainly don't!

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Mark wrote:
HowieC wrote:
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|Dave wrote:
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| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer
| that is stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.


How do you hide it though?


As long as the hole isn't too big, a 'smudge' of mud should do it?

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Cerberus . wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:42:41 +0100, Dave wrote:


Anna Kettle wrote:


On 13 Jul 2008 09:14:55 GMT, Huge wrote:


On 2008-07-12, Dave wrote:


The Natural Philosopher wrote:



Bitstreams wrote:


I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?

I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

Just poison it and the owner will cut it down.

Cut away a strip of bark just below the ground


How does that work? It sounds like a good idea.

Dave



Cutting the bark ( a couple of inches around the trunk) off starves the
tree & eventually kills it. It's called ring barking or Girdling see;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girdling


I'll have a word with the owner first though. Girdling can be done very
quietly though :-)

Thanks for that

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HowieC wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
wrote:

|Dave wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Bitstreams wrote:
|
| I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
| think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
| (radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
| apparently.
|
| The chainsaw bug?
|
| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
| stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.

H.

Trouble is, the drill will be noticed at the dead of night :-(

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HowieC wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
wrote:

|Dave wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Bitstreams wrote:
|
| I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
| think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
| (radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
| apparently.
|
| The chainsaw bug?
|
| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
| stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.

H.

I forgot to say, I can't get my hands on a hand drill :-(

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.



The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

Dave


Go get some copper sulphate. make up a couple of pints solution and
pour over the roots of one of them. It will die sharpish. Don't do
them all, just one or two. Comment that there is *something* going
round killing them. Repeat as necessary.
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On 2008-07-12, Dave wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)


Just poison it and the owner will cut it down.


Correct.

We have been here before. Poundland sell weedkiller for a pound and one tub
per tree should do. Put the contents into a watering can and add water. Stir
until the poison is dissolved. Pour the contents onto the base of the tree
in the middle of the night when the soil is already moist.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

Dave


Go get some copper sulphate. make up a couple of pints solution and
pour over the roots of one of them. It will die sharpish.






Don't do them all, just one or two. Comment that there is *something* going
round killing them. Repeat as necessary.


Very good advice.

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EricP wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:35:31 +0100, Dave
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:


Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

Dave



Go get some copper sulphate. make up a couple of pints solution and
pour over the roots of one of them. It will die sharpish. Don't do
them all, just one or two. Comment that there is *something* going
round killing them. Repeat as necessary.


Nice :-)

And neat :-)

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HowieC wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:03:22 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
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|Dave wrote:
| The Natural Philosopher wrote:
| Bitstreams wrote:
|
| I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
| think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
| (radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
| apparently.
|
| The chainsaw bug?
|
| I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
| stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)
|
|Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...

Both might take some time though.

Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.

H.

I forgot to say, I can't get my hands on a hand drill :-(

Dave


You can always add insult to injury & ask your neighbour if he has a brace
& bit you could borrow ;-)

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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:02:12 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
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HowieC wrote:

Deisel will kill it, or copper nails hammered into the trunk...


Both might take some time though.


Quickest way is to drill a hole, more than halfway through the
trunk, downwards at a 45' angle. Fill it with stump-killer
powder. Works a treat.


I'm going to try that! The arse who lived next-door has trimmed
his leylandii hedge today, attempted to sweep the worse of the
cuttings off the top of my retaining wall, and ripped out all the
houseleek plants that have been growing there since last year.
I replaced them last year, after he swept the cuttings from my wall...


Our "neighbour" never trims their tress. And nothing nice grows in
their shadow, which is most of my garden.

I'm getting fed up of this annual replacement of plants...and
who needs a bloody 14' hedge blocking all the sunlight from
their garden? I certainly don't!


Me neither! (and these trees are more like 30' high).

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:35:31 +0100, Dave
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Bitstreams wrote:



I heard a piece about brown patches on Gardeners Question Time - I
think it was this weeks and it might be available on listen again
(radio4). There's something going around that attacks Leylandii
apparently.


The chainsaw bug?


I like that, but see the new heading and come up with an answer that is
stopping me from getting a good signal for TV :-=)

Dave


Go get some copper sulphate. make up a couple of pints solution and
pour over the roots of one of them. It will die sharpish. Don't do
them all, just one or two. Comment that there is *something* going
round killing them. Repeat as necessary.


Won't this leave a telltale blue stain? Will it kill surrounding
plants?

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Mark wrote:

Go get some copper sulphate. make up a couple of pints solution and
pour over the roots of one of them. It will die sharpish. Don't do
them all, just one or two. Comment that there is *something* going
round killing them. Repeat as necessary.


Won't this leave a telltale blue stain? Will it kill surrounding
plants?


Aren't you allowed to use Bordeaux mixture these days? :-)

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So, if I want to get someone round to diagnose the problem,
where should I look for them? Searching for arborists seems
to get me a list of poeple boasting about the lengths of
their chainsaws and power of their stump grinders. I'm rather
more after someone with a white coat and a magnifying glass...


You need a plant pathologist.
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:

So, if I want to get someone round to diagnose the problem,
where should I look for them? Searching for arborists seems
to get me a list of poeple boasting about the lengths of
their chainsaws and power of their stump grinders. I'm rather
more after someone with a white coat and a magnifying glass...

RHS Wisley or the arboricultural addvisory service at Alice Holt.

In the past I've sent samples to the palnt pathology unit, Forestry research
Alice Holt.

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