OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and
degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? I don't want to buy sugar soap just for this one job and I have lots of washing soda. --------------------- Is it true I should not use Flash because it leaves a shine of slippery silicates and emulsion paint will not adhere well to this? |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. -- Dave |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sat 03 May 2008 11:22:34, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. Nope, I'm not a baker and anyway I don't like soda bread! Have you got any info about my question? |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sat, 3 May 2008 10:57:30 UTC, Zakko wrote:
On Sat 03 May 2008 11:22:34, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. Nope, I'm not a baker That's a relief. You don't get it, do you? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 May 2008 10:57:30 UTC, Zakko wrote: On Sat 03 May 2008 11:22:34, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. Nope, I'm not a baker That's a relief. You don't get it, do you? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com Do let him know...it'll stop him from raising his hopes that it will work. ;-) |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Zakko wrote:
Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? I don't want to buy sugar soap just for this one job and I have lots of washing soda. --------------------- Is it true I should not use Flash because it leaves a shine of slippery silicates and emulsion paint will not adhere well to this? Washing soda is sodium carbonate BTW, which is likely to soak into the plaster and leave a deposit of hygroscopic salts. Even if this is a kitchen where the deposits are oily/fatty, hot water and detergent would be a better bet |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Zakko wrote:
Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? I don't want to buy sugar soap just for this one job and I have lots of washing soda. --------------------- Is it true I should not use Flash because it leaves a shine of slippery silicates and emulsion paint will not adhere well to this? You could buy a single sachet of sugar soap - 50g for 55p (incl. vat!). If that is too much, perhaps you should consider spending even less money by not buying emulsion paint either? I promise you that having lots of something is no reason to use it inappropriately. E.g. I have lots of mud in the garden, sawdust in the garage, gravel on the drive, PVA in the shed. I wouldn't use any of them for cleaning a wall. -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Rod wrote:
Zakko wrote: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? I don't want to buy sugar soap just for this one job and I have lots of washing soda. --------------------- Is it true I should not use Flash because it leaves a shine of slippery silicates and emulsion paint will not adhere well to this? You could buy a single sachet of sugar soap - 50g for 55p (incl. vat!). If that is too much, perhaps you should consider spending even less money by not buying emulsion paint either? I promise you that having lots of something is no reason to use it inappropriately. E.g. I have lots of mud in the garden, sawdust in the garage, gravel on the drive, PVA in the shed. I wouldn't use any of them for cleaning a wall. Oh FFS. What's the difference between washing soda and sugar soap anyway? Pretty much bugger all. Both are strongly alkaline and IMO shouldn't be used on plaster walls. No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
George wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message Oh FFS. What's the difference between washing soda and sugar soap anyway? Pretty much bugger all. Both are strongly alkaline and IMO shouldn't be used on plaster walls. No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Did ya move the bed last night MrNoble? ;-) I move it every night. It's the only way :-) |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message Oh FFS. What's the difference between washing soda and sugar soap anyway? Pretty much bugger all. Both are strongly alkaline and IMO shouldn't be used on plaster walls. No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Did ya move the bed last night MrNoble? ;-) |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
In message , George
writes "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 May 2008 10:57:30 UTC, Zakko wrote: On Sat 03 May 2008 11:22:34, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. Nope, I'm not a baker That's a relief. You don't get it, do you? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com Do let him know...it'll stop him from raising his hopes that it will work. lets stop all these caustic comments right now -- geoff |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? -- Dave |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? Just for the day you reckon? You're not likely to say anything else funny then? |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sat 03 May 2008 12:43:55, George wrote:
"Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 May 2008 10:57:30 UTC, Zakko wrote: On Sat 03 May 2008 11:22:34, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. Nope, I'm not a baker That's a relief. You don't get it, do you? Do let him know...it'll stop him from raising his hopes that it will work. ;-) Or maybe washing/baking soda could work because sodium bicarbonate used to be the major ingredient in early formulations of Sugar Soap. |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sat, 3 May 2008 21:28:08 UTC, Zakko wrote:
Or maybe washing/baking soda could work because sodium bicarbonate used to be the major ingredient in early formulations of Sugar Soap. OK. The point you have repeatedly missed is that washing soda is NOT sodium bicarbonate. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sat, 03 May 2008 22:28:08 +0100, Zakko wrote:
Or maybe washing/baking soda could work because sodium bicarbonate used to be the major ingredient in early formulations of Sugar Soap. Washing soda is sodium carbonate, not bicarbonate. Can you still get washing soda? ISTR that it was almost always 'made' by ICI. -- Frank Erskine |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Zakko wrote:
On Sat 03 May 2008 12:43:55, George wrote: "Bob Eager" wrote in message ... On Sat, 3 May 2008 10:57:30 UTC, Zakko wrote: On Sat 03 May 2008 11:22:34, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: Zakko saying something like: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? Thank **** you're not a baker. Nope, I'm not a baker That's a relief. You don't get it, do you? Do let him know...it'll stop him from raising his hopes that it will work. ;-) Or maybe washing/baking soda could work because sodium bicarbonate used to be the major ingredient in early formulations of Sugar Soap. I think trisodium phosphate was the norm circa 1970. |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Stuart Noble wrote:
Rod wrote: Zakko wrote: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? I don't want to buy sugar soap just for this one job and I have lots of washing soda. --------------------- Is it true I should not use Flash because it leaves a shine of slippery silicates and emulsion paint will not adhere well to this? You could buy a single sachet of sugar soap - 50g for 55p (incl. vat!). If that is too much, perhaps you should consider spending even less money by not buying emulsion paint either? I promise you that having lots of something is no reason to use it inappropriately. E.g. I have lots of mud in the garden, sawdust in the garage, gravel on the drive, PVA in the shed. I wouldn't use any of them for cleaning a wall. Oh FFS. What's the difference between washing soda and sugar soap anyway? Pretty much bugger all. Both are strongly alkaline and IMO shouldn't be used on plaster walls. No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. The majority of powder sugar soaps that I checked earlier are in fact something like "Blend of Sodium Sesquicarbonate, Sodium Alkylbenzene Sulphonate (&) Sodium Tripolyphosphate". (Liquid ones often seem to contain all sorts of other substances.) I believe (though I could be wrong) that the sesquicarbonate is less alkaline that plain carbonate. I shall try to remember to include smileys. :-) -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? Just for the day you reckon? You're not likely to say anything else funny then? Not much point wasting it on a dull ****, is there? -- Dave |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Rod wrote:
Zakko wrote: Is it alright to use washing soda (sodium bicarbonate) to clean and degrease the emulsion paint on an interior wall before repainting? I don't want to buy sugar soap just for this one job and I have lots of washing soda. --------------------- Is it true I should not use Flash because it leaves a shine of slippery silicates and emulsion paint will not adhere well to this? You could buy a single sachet of sugar soap - 50g for 55p (incl. vat!). If that is too much, perhaps you should consider spending even less money by not buying emulsion paint either? I promise you that having lots of something is no reason to use it inappropriately. E.g. I have lots of mud in the garden, sawdust in the garage, gravel on the drive, PVA in the shed. I wouldn't use any of them for cleaning a wall. A mixture of mud and sawdust would probably work quite well. Throw it on, give it a good rubbing, wash it off. Your wall will look just like new! |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sat 03 May 2008 17:04:43, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? Why don't you **** off? |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:30:13 UTC, Zakko wrote:
On Sun 04 May 2008 01:22:40, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? Just for the day you reckon? You're not likely to say anything else funny then? Not much point wasting it on a dull ****, is there? When was the last time someone you insulted on the Usenet came to see you and sorted things out in person? And you wanted HELP?? -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by http://www.diybanter.com |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Zakko wrote:
On Sat 03 May 2008 17:04:43, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? Why don't you **** off? Couldn't have put it better myself. Ok, carbonate isn't bicarbonate, but smart arses should resist the temptation to make cheap jibes at every opportunity, especially when they contribute nothing else to the thread. |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Why don't you **** off? Couldn't have put it better myself. Ok, carbonate isn't bicarbonate, but smart arses should resist the temptation to make cheap jibes at every opportunity, especially when they contribute nothing else to the thread. Who the **** are you pair of muppets? -- Dave |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Why don't you **** off? Couldn't have put it better myself. Ok, carbonate isn't bicarbonate, but smart arses should resist the temptation to make cheap jibes at every opportunity, especially when they contribute nothing else to the thread. Who the **** are you pair of muppets? One that asked a perfectly valid question, and one that answered it to the best of his ability. Where do you fit in? |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Why don't you **** off? Couldn't have put it better myself. Ok, carbonate isn't bicarbonate, but smart arses should resist the temptation to make cheap jibes at every opportunity, especially when they contribute nothing else to the thread. Who the **** are you pair of muppets? One that asked a perfectly valid question, and one that answered it to the best of his ability. Where do you fit in? You see that 'dull ****' comment I made? That was aimed at you, not Zakko The Poisoner. You're really living up to it now. Still, if the foo ****s... -- Dave |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: Why don't you **** off? Couldn't have put it better myself. Ok, carbonate isn't bicarbonate, but smart arses should resist the temptation to make cheap jibes at every opportunity, especially when they contribute nothing else to the thread. Who the **** are you pair of muppets? One that asked a perfectly valid question, and one that answered it to the best of his ability. Where do you fit in? You see that 'dull ****' comment I made? That was aimed at you, not Zakko The Poisoner. You're really living up to it now. Still, if the foo ****s... Your vocabulary isn't getting any better is it? |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
On May 3, 5:04*pm, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote: We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stuart Noble saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? It looking like it's you who's had a sense of humour bypass... cheers, Pete. |
OK to use washing soda for wall preparation?
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Pete C saying something like: No need for snide remarks about baking powder either. Why don't you go and buy or rent a sense of humour for the day? It looking like it's you who's had a sense of humour bypass... Another muppet. Who the **** are you? -- Dave GS850x2 XS650 SE6a "It's a moron working with power tools. How much more suspenseful can you get?" - House |
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