I finally decided that I ought to do something about an irritating
problem, we have..the Freelander interior front lights don't work - any
of the ones above the drivers/passengers heads EXCEPT that the main
light works when the doors are opened. But not when switched on from the
lighting cluster switches.

I guess there is a separate feed to these lights from somewhere, with
maybe a relay or some such, or a fuse,..but have no idea where to start
looking.

Occasionally they do work, like about once in a blue moon, so its
probably a bad connection or broken crimp.


Anyone got a circuit diagram to point me in the right direction?

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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I finally decided that I ought to do something about an irritating problem,
we have..the Freelander interior front lights don't work - any of the ones
above the drivers/passengers heads EXCEPT that the main light works when
the doors are opened. But not when switched on from the lighting cluster
switches.

I guess there is a separate feed to these lights from somewhere, with
maybe a relay or some such, or a fuse,..but have no idea where to start
looking.

Occasionally they do work, like about once in a blue moon, so its probably
a bad connection or broken crimp.


Anyone got a circuit diagram to point me in the right direction?

Surely this should be in uk.rec.cars.maintenance?

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I finally decided that I ought to do something about an irritating
problem, we have..the Freelander interior front lights don't work -
any of the ones above the drivers/passengers heads EXCEPT that the
main light works when the doors are opened. But not when switched on
from the lighting cluster switches.

I guess there is a separate feed to these lights from somewhere, with
maybe a relay or some such, or a fuse,..but have no idea where to
start looking.

Occasionally they do work, like about once in a blue moon, so its
probably a bad connection or broken crimp.


Anyone got a circuit diagram to point me in the right direction?

Long gone are the days when you could send away to Lucas' for a circuit
diagram for a particular model of car - which arrived on a single sheet of
A4 (or more likely foolscap!) paper. The electrical and electronic systems
in modern cars are so complex that the schematics take up 10's if not 100's
of pages.

The driver handbook should specify which fuses protect which functions,
which may provide some sort of a clue as to where to look.

Do Haynes do a manual for your car? If so, that will cover at least some of
the electrics, and may tell you what you need to know. Have a browse in
Halfords.
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Hi
Haynes do a manual but you need a degree in Sanskrit to decipher it ,sounds
like the old range rover problem of the contacts on the cluster switch
sticking.(try rotating it 10/20 times rapidly) .
IIR the overheads are on a delay relay unit (used to be behind the passenger
glove box area but since BMW got involved who knows what they have been up
to.
Sorry not to have been more help but HEY
remember Above ALL its a Rover.....

CJ

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cj wrote:
Haynes do a manual but you need a degree in Sanskrit to decipher it
,sounds like the old range rover problem of the contacts on the cluster
switch sticking.(try rotating it 10/20 times rapidly) . IIR the
overheads are on a delay relay unit (used to be behind the passenger
glove box area but since BMW got involved who knows what they have been
up to. Sorry not to have been more help

but HEY remember Above ALL its a Rover.....

Rover^^BMH^^BL^^BMW^^Ford^^Tata

How many more owners can one make have?

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


but HEY remember Above ALL its a Rover.....

Rover^^BMH^^BL^^BMW^^Ford^^Tata

How many more owners can one make have?

You've missed at least one! Rover (in common with Triumph) was bought and
owned by Leyland for a few years prior to the shotgun marriage with BMH
(BMC+Jaguar) to form British Leyland - subsequently called BL.
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cj wrote:
Hi
Haynes do a manual but you need a degree in Sanskrit to decipher it ,sounds
like the old range rover problem of the contacts on the cluster switch
sticking.(try rotating it 10/20 times rapidly) .

Yu mean yu have to have the main lights on to get the overheads going?


IIR the overheads are on a delay relay unit (used to be behind the passenger
glove box area but since BMW got involved who knows what they have been up
to.

That is probably te bit that IS working..

Sorry not to have been more help but HEY
remember Above ALL its a Rover.....

CJ

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
cj wrote:
Haynes do a manual but you need a degree in Sanskrit to decipher it
,sounds like the old range rover problem of the contacts on the cluster
switch sticking.(try rotating it 10/20 times rapidly) . IIR the
overheads are on a delay relay unit (used to be behind the passenger
glove box area but since BMW got involved who knows what they have been
up to. Sorry not to have been more help

but HEY remember Above ALL its a Rover.....

Rover^^BMH^^BL^^BMW^^Ford^^Tata

How many more owners can one make have?

Plenty.

However I am actually sanguine about Tata.

I think they will do a good job.

Hi
Yup the overheads used to come on with the door-jamb lights on the earlier
models ,the timer relay was fed from the sidelight position of the switch on
it's own feed and was slaved through the door open circuit.
Result daylight open door centre light only comes on.
Night (lights on) open door overheads,door-jamb (or footwell) & centre
lights all come on then fade out slowly.
IMO a silly gimmick but hey it sold cars.

CJ

cj wrote:
Hi
Yup the overheads used to come on with the door-jamb lights on the earlier
models ,the timer relay was fed from the sidelight position of the switch on
it's own feed and was slaved through the door open circuit.
Result daylight open door centre light only comes on.
Night (lights on) open door overheads,door-jamb (or footwell) & centre
lights all come on then fade out slowly.
IMO a silly gimmick but hey it sold cars.

CJ


Thats all working, its when the doors (switches) are closed, and I want
to put the interior lights on, that it doesn't work, on any of them.

ie.e the map reading lights don't work at all, and the center light only
with the doors open.

Obviously I am missing a live feed to the swiches..but where does it
come from?

Ah! a light dawns(sorry)
If it's the earlier wiring loom (Leyland era) the dash switch actually
earths the lighting relay (like opening the door) so you are looking for a
loose earth.Normally found in the centre overhead light which comes loose
over time.
The later looms got more complicated and feeds were taken either from the
cigarette lighter cct or the ancillary fusebox marked as glove light.(don't
ask).
Try the local library for the Haynes manual for your model It will point you
in the right direction.

CJ

cj wrote:
Ah! a light dawns(sorry)
If it's the earlier wiring loom (Leyland era) the dash switch actually
earths the lighting relay (like opening the door) so you are looking for a
loose earth.Normally found in the centre overhead light which comes loose
over time.

No, that all works so it cant be an earth, or the lights would never
come on at all. The door opening bit DOES work, and there are no dash
switches fir the interior lights - they are all above me head!


The later looms got more complicated and feeds were taken either from the
cigarette lighter cct or the ancillary fusebox marked as glove light.(don't
ask).

The glove light don't work either I think which may be significant. Its
BMW era freelander. I;'ll peer into te fusebox.



Try the local library for the Haynes manual for your model It will point you
in the right direction.

CJ

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Philosopher writes
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
cj wrote:
Haynes do a manual but you need a degree in Sanskrit to decipher it
,sounds like the old range rover problem of the contacts on the cluster
switch sticking.(try rotating it 10/20 times rapidly) . IIR the
overheads are on a delay relay unit (used to be behind the passenger
glove box area but since BMW got involved who knows what they have been
up to. Sorry not to have been more help

but HEY remember Above ALL its a Rover.....
Rover^^BMH^^BL^^BMW^^Ford^^Tata
How many more owners can one make have?

Plenty.

However I am actually sanguine about Tata.

I think they will do a good job.

Then you've probably not had to repair the wiring in a Mahindra
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Neil J. Harris