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shelves on plasterboard wall
Hi,
I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). So I was thinking of putting up some shelves, which I might enclose to make a cupboard. That way, it would keep the sun off them and stop them fading. It would be quite a decent size, almost like building a wardrobe. The walls are plasterboard. I was going to use those slotted bars that you slide brackets into for the shelving. Can I use plasterboard or hollow wall anchors to hold these tot he wall, or would I be best finding the studs to "future-proof" it against heavier loads? If so, can anyone recommend a decent stud detector? What would I use to fix the cupbaord to the wall? I'd quite like to have tinted galss doors but I don't know where I'd get the glass from; I guess it's a matter of getting the yellow pages and calling a few glass merchants? The other thought I had was to get two doors on a rail and have sliding doors, like on a wardrobe. How do these work? Do I need a track on the top and bottom of the doors? Thanks in advance. |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Fred wrote:
Hi, I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). So I was thinking of putting up some shelves, which I might enclose to make a cupboard. That way, it would keep the sun off them and stop them fading. It would be quite a decent size, almost like building a wardrobe. The walls are plasterboard. I was going to use those slotted bars that you slide brackets into for the shelving. Can I use plasterboard or hollow wall anchors to hold these tot he wall, or would I be best finding the studs to "future-proof" it against heavier loads? If so, can anyone recommend a decent stud detector? What would I use to fix the cupbaord to the wall? I'd quite like to have tinted galss doors but I don't know where I'd get the glass from; I guess it's a matter of getting the yellow pages and calling a few glass merchants? The other thought I had was to get two doors on a rail and have sliding doors, like on a wardrobe. How do these work? Do I need a track on the top and bottom of the doors? Thanks in advance. Earlier today I included this in a post he "I have used these very ones very successfully for cabinets with real backs." http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/productDetail.aspx?product=464&subCat=000 Doubt I'd be willing to fix them to plasterboard. Find the studs. Not sure if you mean Spur shelving system or something else. How about bookcase strips? : http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/products.aspx?subCat=19&parentCat=1/19 -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Rod wrote: Fred wrote: Hi, I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). So I was thinking of putting up some shelves, which I might enclose to make a cupboard. That way, it would keep the sun off them and stop them fading. It would be quite a decent size, almost like building a wardrobe. The walls are plasterboard. I was going to use those slotted bars that you slide brackets into for the shelving. Can I use plasterboard or hollow wall anchors to hold these tot he wall, or would I be best finding the studs to "future-proof" it against heavier loads? If so, can anyone recommend a decent stud detector? What would I use to fix the cupbaord to the wall? I'd quite like to have tinted galss doors but I don't know where I'd get the glass from; I guess it's a matter of getting the yellow pages and calling a few glass merchants? The other thought I had was to get two doors on a rail and have sliding doors, like on a wardrobe. How do these work? Do I need a track on the top and bottom of the doors? Thanks in advance. Earlier today I included this in a post he "I have used these very ones very successfully for cabinets with real backs." http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/productDetail.aspx?product=464&subCat=000 Doubt I'd be willing to fix them to plasterboard. Find the studs. Not sure if you mean Spur shelving system or something else. How about bookcase strips? : http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/products.aspx?subCat=19&parentCat=1/19 Spur type uprights have fixing holes at 250mm centres? Never measured, but its about that, so a 1.8m upright will have maybe 8 fixing points - hollow wall anchor in each spreads the load & makes it very strong. Easier to get a sailor off your sister as they say. Wickes do some nice strong ones http://www.wickes.co.uk/Metal-System...ht/invt/530509 -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
shelves on plasterboard wall
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Fred writes: Hi, I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). So I When that happened to me, I copied all my CDs onto my fileserver, and freed up lots of shelf space. I also find that I'm playing them more now that I don't have to fiddle with the cases and load them into a player. I've never much got into DVDs (I think I've only got abut 3:-), but you can do the same with them. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
shelves on plasterboard wall
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Rod wrote: Fred wrote: Hi, I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). So I was thinking of putting up some shelves, which I might enclose to make a cupboard. That way, it would keep the sun off them and stop them fading. It would be quite a decent size, almost like building a wardrobe. The walls are plasterboard. I was going to use those slotted bars that you slide brackets into for the shelving. Can I use plasterboard or hollow wall anchors to hold these tot he wall, or would I be best finding the studs to "future-proof" it against heavier loads? If so, can anyone recommend a decent stud detector? What would I use to fix the cupbaord to the wall? I'd quite like to have tinted galss doors but I don't know where I'd get the glass from; I guess it's a matter of getting the yellow pages and calling a few glass merchants? The other thought I had was to get two doors on a rail and have sliding doors, like on a wardrobe. How do these work? Do I need a track on the top and bottom of the doors? Thanks in advance. Earlier today I included this in a post he "I have used these very ones very successfully for cabinets with real backs." http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/productDetail.aspx?product=464&subCat=000 Doubt I'd be willing to fix them to plasterboard. Find the studs. Not sure if you mean Spur shelving system or something else. How about bookcase strips? : http://www.isaaclord.co.uk/products.aspx?subCat=19&parentCat=1/19 Spur type uprights have fixing holes at 250mm centres? Never measured, but its about that, so a 1.8m upright will have maybe 8 fixing points - hollow wall anchor in each spreads the load & makes it very strong. Easier to get a sailor off your sister as they say. Wickes do some nice strong ones http://www.wickes.co.uk/Metal-System...ht/invt/530509 Understood. I still wouldn't do it. But I was actually referring to the cabinet suspension fittings! They would take the entire load of the cabinet and its contents through a single wall plate (up to three screws close together). -- Rod Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious onset. Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed. www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org |
shelves on plasterboard wall
"Fred" wrote in message ... Hi, I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). When I ran out of space, I transferred all my disks to several of these sort of things http://svp.co.uk/product/amps_leathe...0_discs_0 186 Saves loads of space, and means you can take them anywhere you want, easily. I have indexed all my DVD's in Excel, each place in the disk case is marked A1, A2 etc. for the first case, B1, B2 etc for the second, etc.. You can then just do a quick search in Excel, and lay our hands on a particular DVD very quickly! |
shelves on plasterboard wall
The Medway Handyman wrote:
Spur type uprights have fixing holes at 250mm centres? Spur is still imperial and uses a pitch of 1.25 in. The fixing centres vary between uprights of different lengths, but will always be a multiple of 1.25 in. On the 78 in. upright I'm looking at at the moment it's 12 pitches, i.e. 15 in. -- Andy |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Can I use plasterboard or
hollow wall anchors to hold these tot he wall, or would I be best finding the studs to "future-proof" it against heavier loads? If so, can anyone recommend a decent stud detector? Stud detector. 7 quid in LIDL from Thursday. http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa...elliSensor.ar2 |
shelves on plasterboard wall
On 14 Apr, 12:47, Andy Wade wrote:
Spur is still imperial and uses a pitch of 1.25 in. I'm not sure Spur is "still" anything. www.spurshelving.co.uk says "Spur Shelving Ltd has recently ceased manufacture in the UK". According to the London Gazette the company was dissolved in 2006. Richard. http://www.rtrussell.co.uk/ To reply by email change 'news' to my forename. |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Fred wrote:
I have run out of space to store my cds and dvds. I've looked in the shops but not found anything suitable (do you know of anything?). So I was thinking of putting up some shelves, which I might enclose to make a cupboard. That way, it would keep the sun off them and stop them fading. It would be quite a decent size, almost like building a wardrobe. The walls are plasterboard. I was going to use those slotted bars that you slide brackets into for the shelving. Can I use plasterboard or hollow wall anchors to hold these tot he wall, or would I be best finding the studs to "future-proof" it against heavier loads? If so, can anyone recommend a decent stud detector? What would I use to fix the cupbaord to the wall? I had this problem a few weeks ago when fitting a kitchen in a new house. It included 4 shelves going round 2 plasterboard walls. These walls were the flimsiest walls I have come across since doing this for a job. I knew they were plasterboard walls, so bought a selection of fittings from Screwfix in case of any problems. Of 4 or 5 types tried, only 1 fixing actually worked well - very similar to this one he http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11143/...s/Hollow-Wall- Anchor-5-x-72mm-16-32mm-Pack-of-10 I got them from the local hardware store - the longest available, probably 80mm long, maybe 100mm. They do not have a minimum wall thickness, which I think some of the Screwfix ones do. Once fitted, they were rock solid when tightened - fit them first without shelf brackets, make sure they are tight, then just unscrew, and refit - can be used many times, as they are a set screw, not a wood type screw. Of the other fittings he http://www.screwfix.com/cats/100067/Fixings/Cavity-Fixings I could not recommend any for thin plasterboard walls. I tried most of them, and all failed miserably. Also, ITYF that the spacing between the stud fixings is nowhere near the spacing you want to secure the cupboard, so at least one end will be secured into the cavity. Alan. -- To reply by e-mail, change the ' + ' to 'plus'. |
shelves on plasterboard wall
A.Lee wrote: SNIP I had this problem a few weeks ago when fitting a kitchen in a new house. It included 4 shelves going round 2 plasterboard walls. These walls were the flimsiest walls I have come across since doing this for a job. I knew they were plasterboard walls, so bought a selection of fittings from Screwfix in case of any problems. Of 4 or 5 types tried, only 1 fixing actually worked well - very similar to this one he http://www.screwfix.com/prods/11143/...s/Hollow-Wall- Anchor-5-x-72mm-16-32mm-Pack-of-10 I use the 5 x 52mm ones all the time. Agreed very strong fixing. The setting tool is well worth £6.50 if you are using them regularly http://www.screwfix.com/search.do;js...h_search=12429 -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk I got them from the local hardware store - the longest available, probably 80mm long, maybe 100mm. They do not have a minimum wall thickness, which I think some of the Screwfix ones do. Once fitted, they were rock solid when tightened - fit them first without shelf brackets, make sure they are tight, then just unscrew, and refit - can be used many times, as they are a set screw, not a wood type screw. Of the other fittings he http://www.screwfix.com/cats/100067/Fixings/Cavity-Fixings I could not recommend any for thin plasterboard walls. I tried most of them, and all failed miserably. Also, ITYF that the spacing between the stud fixings is nowhere near the spacing you want to secure the cupboard, so at least one end will be secured into the cavity. Alan. |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Richard Russell wrote:
I'm not sure Spur is "still" anything. www.spurshelving.co.uk says "Spur Shelving Ltd has recently ceased manufacture in the UK". According to the London Gazette the company was dissolved in 2006. Oh bugger, that's a shame. -- Andy |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Andy Wade wrote:
Richard Russell wrote: I'm not sure Spur is "still" anything. www.spurshelving.co.uk says "Spur Shelving Ltd has recently ceased manufacture in the UK". According to the London Gazette the company was dissolved in 2006. Oh bugger, that's a shame. There are quite a few very close compatibles though... -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
shelves on plasterboard wall
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:33:26 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Wickes do some nice strong ones http://www.wickes.co.uk/Metal-System...ht/invt/530509 I haven't heard of all the brand names being mentioned so far but these from Wickes are the kind of thing I was thinking of. Especially if I do enclose the shelves, they won't be on view so it won't matter what they look like. |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:30:02 +0100, "Sparks"
wrote: When I ran out of space, I transferred all my disks to several of these sort of things http://svp.co.uk/product/amps_leathe...0_discs_0 186 Saves loads of space, and means you can take them anywhere you want, easily. But what happens to your (now) empty cd cases? Surely they have to be stored somewhere? Do you index each track on a cd or how else do you know if you want a particular song? |
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:09:55 +0100, "Vortex2"
wrote: Stud detector. 7 quid in LIDL from Thursday. http://www.lidl.co.uk/uk/home.nsf/pa...elliSensor.ar2 Thanks. I've never quite understood how these things work. Is it just a metal detector that detects the nails in the studs? If so do you have to find two nails and imagine a line between them where the stud lies or is it something far cleverer than that? |
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In message , Fred
writes On 13 Apr 2008 20:39:48 GMT, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote: When that happened to me, I copied all my CDs onto my fileserver, and freed up lots of shelf space. I also find that I'm playing them more now that I don't have to fiddle with the cases and load them into a player. I have heard of people doing this and it sounds good in theory but how does it work in practice? I understand you copy the cds to a hard drive but how do you choose the cd and track from the hdd later? It's easy enough if you are at your desk and can use a mouse to click a menu but isn't the idea with these that you get the disc menu on your tv? How do you select from the tv? Surely you need some sort of remote control that interfaces with your pc; does such a thing exist? I have one of these http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...roductid=1968& cat=369&page=1 yes you can operate it with a remote control -- geoff |
shelves on plasterboard wall
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Fred writes: On 13 Apr 2008 20:39:48 GMT, (Andrew Gabriel) wrote: When that happened to me, I copied all my CDs onto my fileserver, and freed up lots of shelf space. I also find that I'm playing them more now that I don't have to fiddle with the cases and load them into a player. I have heard of people doing this and it sounds good in theory but how does it work in practice? I understand you copy the cds to a hard drive but how do you choose the cd and track from the hdd later? It's easy enough if you are at your desk and can use a mouse to click a menu but isn't the idea with these that you get the disc menu on your tv? How do you select from the tv? Surely you need some sort of remote control that interfaces with your pc; does such a thing exist? I believe such things exist, but I have a PC which is on all the time anyway, and playing a track or selection of tracks from that is very much simpler than going to the bookcase, selecting a CD, going to the player, putting it in, turning on the amp, selecting CD source, selecting CD track(s), and not forgetting that you will have found the previous CD in there which you now have to put back into its library case and put back on the shelf... -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
shelves on plasterboard wall
"Fred" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:30:02 +0100, "Sparks" wrote: When I ran out of space, I transferred all my disks to several of these sort of things http://svp.co.uk/product/amps_leathe...0_discs_0 186 Saves loads of space, and means you can take them anywhere you want, easily. But what happens to your (now) empty cd cases? Surely they have to be stored somewhere? Do you index each track on a cd or how else do you know if you want a particular song? They are all in boxes in the loft out of the way! The CD's are all transferred to the computer as MP3 files, all named correctly, so finding a track is very quick with a search in Winamp's media library, I can then play the music on any PC in the house, and if I want to take them anywhere, I can copy the required tracks to the laptop or a portable MP3 player Sparks... |
shelves on plasterboard wall
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:27:51 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: I use the 5 x 52mm ones all the time. Agreed very strong fixing. The setting tool is well worth £6.50 if you are using them regularly Is there such a thing as a standard depth stud wall? Or is it a matter of drilling a hole and measuring the depth of the drill bit? I don't want to use a fitting that pushed out the other side! OTOH I don't want to use one that is too small; I imagine you use the biggest one possible, since it's arms will cover the largest area when collapsed and provide the greatest support? |
shelves on plasterboard wall
Fred wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:27:51 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: I use the 5 x 52mm ones all the time. Agreed very strong fixing. The setting tool is well worth £6.50 if you are using them regularly Is there such a thing as a standard depth stud wall? Or is it a matter of drilling a hole and measuring the depth of the drill bit? I don't want to use a fitting that pushed out the other side! OTOH I don't want to use one that is too small; I imagine you use the biggest one possible, since it's arms will cover the largest area when collapsed and provide the greatest support? Smallest I've come acros is 3". Unless someone knows different. I use a 7" scratch awl from Wilkinsons to mark through fittings http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0209031 easy enough to put a bit of tape on it - thenm push it straight through the plasterboard. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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