New screw holes don't align
I am replacing all the brass door furniture throughout the house with satin
nickel. The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? TIA |
New screw holes don't align
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:51:48 -0000, diy-newby wrote:
The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? How far out are the holes? Will the screws pull tight and the heads not be wonky? If so no problem... Otherwise it's packing the old holes with small match stick sized bits of wood and glue. Remember the hole left a by wood screw is tapered so a sinle match gently tapped in will fill the bottom of the hole but require more around the top. -- Cheers Dave. |
New screw holes don't align
diy-newby wrote:
I am replacing all the brass door furniture throughout the house with satin nickel. The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? TIA Pack the old screw holes with matchsticks. -- LSR |
New screw holes don't align
On 8 Feb, 09:37, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:51:48 -0000, diy-newby wrote: The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. *What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? How far out are the holes? Will the screws pull tight and the heads not be wonky? If so no problem... Otherwise it's packing the old holes with small match stick sized bits of wood and glue. Remember the hole left a by wood screw is tapered so a sinle match gently tapped in will fill the bottom of the hole but require more around the top. -- Cheers Dave. I'm glad its not just me that does that!! Are matchsticks / matchstick sized pieces of wood the filler of choice of professionals for these sorts of holes? I've never had a problem with it, but just curious if I'm doing things right or wrong! Matt |
New screw holes don't align
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
diy-newby wrote: I am replacing all the brass door furniture throughout the house with satin nickel. The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? TIA Presumably the holes are in *nearly* the same place, but not quite - so that the old and new holes would partially overlap? I would be inclined to drill out the old holes to (say) 1/4" and then glue some 1/4" dowelling in the enlarged holes. You will then have something firm to which to screw the new hinges. -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! |
New screw holes don't align
"Roger Mills" wrote in message ... In an earlier contribution to this discussion, diy-newby wrote: I am replacing all the brass door furniture throughout the house with satin nickel. The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? TIA Presumably the holes are in *nearly* the same place, but not quite - so that the old and new holes would partially overlap? I would be inclined to drill out the old holes to (say) 1/4" and then glue some 1/4" dowelling in the enlarged holes. You will then have something firm to which to screw the new hinges. -- Cheers, Roger ______ Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks. PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP! Thanks all who replied. I did think about matchsticks and glue, just wasn't sure if that was the correct thing to do. |
New screw holes don't align
In article , diy-newby wrote:
Thanks all who replied. I did think about matchsticks and glue, just wasn't sure if that was the correct thing to do. It's the traditional way. ;-) I'd use a self centering bit to drill the pilot holes - a help if the old ones are close to the new. -- *And don't start a sentence with a conjunction * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
New screw holes don't align
There is a snag with plugging the holes with dowel or matchsticks. If
the new screw holes are going to run into, or even partly into, the wood you are effectively screwing into end grain. The perfect solution is to enlarge the holes to, say, 1/2" and glue in a plug cut using a proper plug cutter. I've repaired a number of worn hinge screw holes that way before. |
New screw holes don't align
On 8 Feb, 09:38, "LSR" wrote:
Pack the old screw holes with matchsticks. Pack the old holes with split bamboo chopsticks. They're easier to split than matchsticks, and they're harder and thus give a better grip. These are doors we're talking about here, not just cuphooks. I've a big pile of old (recycled from Budokan) chopsticks in the workshop - they get used for everything from gluesticks to dowel pegs. For coopered chests like this, I'd be there all day if I had to make dowels too. http://codesmiths.com/shed/boxes/sarah/ |
New screw holes don't align
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New screw holes don't align
PeterMcC wrote:
wrote in I'm glad its not just me that does that!! Are matchsticks / matchstick sized pieces of wood the filler of choice of professionals for these sorts of holes? I've never had a problem with it, but just curious if I'm doing things right or wrong! How unprofessional! You're supposed to use cocktail sticks - that's why the ends are tapered. Amateur! Its bamboo skewers. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
New screw holes don't align
1501 wrote:
There is a snag with plugging the holes with dowel or matchsticks. If the new screw holes are going to run into, or even partly into, the wood you are effectively screwing into end grain. Why would that be a problem? Thousands of door frames, skirtings etc have been fixed that way in the past - it was standard practice. The perfect solution is to enlarge the holes to, say, 1/2" and glue in a plug cut using a proper plug cutter. I've repaired a number of worn hinge screw holes that way before. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
New screw holes don't align
On 8 Feb, 20:17, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: Why would that be a problem? *Thousands of door frames, skirtings etc have been fixed that way in the past - it was standard practice. I'm not saying screwing into end grain won't work, but I've found from practical experience the holding power with ordinary screws in end- grain is usually sh*t compared to cross-grain. Admitedly some of these fancy multi-start poxy-drive screws may be OK. Go on call me a luddite. |
New screw holes don't align
1501 wrote:
On 8 Feb, 20:17, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: Why would that be a problem? Thousands of door frames, skirtings etc have been fixed that way in the past - it was standard practice. I'm not saying screwing into end grain won't work, but I've found from practical experience the holding power with ordinary screws in end- grain is usually sh*t compared to cross-grain. Admitedly some of these fancy multi-start poxy-drive screws may be OK. Go on call me a luddite. OK, you're a ........ :-) Ah, but the end grain is confined by the hole around it. I use 4mm dowels (when I can find the buggers, no one seems to stock them anymore). Perfect fit for No 8 screws. Hammer it in, the taper starts it off, then use a Turbo Gold screw. Easier to get a sailor off your sister than shift that. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk 01634 717930 07850 597257 |
New screw holes don't align
"LSR" wrote in message ... diy-newby wrote: I am replacing all the brass door furniture throughout the house with satin nickel. The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? TIA Pack the old screw holes with matchsticks. -- LSR Re align the hole with a small drill bit and use a longer screw |
New screw holes don't align
In message , The Medway
Handyman writes PeterMcC wrote: wrote in I'm glad its not just me that does that!! Are matchsticks / matchstick sized pieces of wood the filler of choice of professionals for these sorts of holes? I've never had a problem with it, but just curious if I'm doing things right or wrong! How unprofessional! You're supposed to use cocktail sticks - that's why the ends are tapered. Amateur! Its bamboo skewers. No, those are for putting under the fingernails of anyone who yells you how unprofessional the job looks -- geoff |
New screw holes don't align
In message , Roger Mills
writes In an earlier contribution to this discussion, diy-newby wrote: I am replacing all the brass door furniture throughout the house with satin nickel. The hinges are the same size (75mm) but the outer screw holes don't 100% match the original. What are my options to ensure the hinges are fixed securely? TIA Presumably the holes are in *nearly* the same place, but not quite - so that the old and new holes would partially overlap? I would be inclined to drill out the old holes to (say) 1/4" and then glue some 1/4" dowelling in the enlarged holes. You will then have something firm to which to screw the new hinges. now, where's my poster of screws with two threads, offsets etc ... -- geoff |
New screw holes don't align
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:17:26 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: 1501 wrote: There is a snag with plugging the holes with dowel or matchsticks. If the new screw holes are going to run into, or even partly into, the wood you are effectively screwing into end grain. Why would that be a problem? Thousands of door frames, skirtings etc have been fixed that way in the past - it was standard practice. The only possible snag with matchsticks is that they're (or were) often dipped in wax, which might stop the glue working properly. -- Frank Erskine |
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