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John Stumbles wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:40:32 +0000, NoSpam wrote:

Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).

I always prefer to keep the service valves separate from the tap
tails so that if I need to replace or remove the taps I can use the
service valves to shut of the water while I'm doing it. Seems rather
pointless otherwise.

Indeed. I've always thought that flexible tap tails/connectors with a
built in valve are a daft idea. You need to ba able to turn the water off
&
then remove the tail, leaving the tails attached to the tap.


Not quite right.
Flexi tap connectors with or without built in isolator screw directly onto
the tap. Turn off water and leave flexies on installation pipework, not the
tap.
If you wish to remove the tap for any reason it would not be possible to
remove the back nut with flexi still attached.

As for monoblock taps with female thread then a flexi with built in isolator
would be no good because the whole flexi hose needs to turn to screw it into
the tap base so would require isolating water elsewhere.

Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
Any suggestions who sells them?

If I can't find anything I'll have to resort to what I've done befo
15mm wallplate with a rad tail screwed into it and a 90 deg service
valve on the tail, then a flexi. Crazy! There must be an easier way.

Dave

On 29 Nov, 13:40, NoSpam wrote:
Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
Any suggestions who sells them?

If I can't find anything I'll have to resort to what I've done befo
15mm wallplate with a rad tail screwed into it and a 90 deg service
valve on the tail, then a flexi. Crazy! There must be an easier way.

Dave

Use a 15mm Iso valve then a short piece of 15mm copper then a 15mm -
10mm threaded Flexitap connector stocked at most good Plumbers
Merchants.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:40:32 +0000, NoSpam wrote:

Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).

I always prefer to keep the service valves separate from the tap tails so
that if I need to replace or remove the taps I can use the service
valves to shut of the water while I'm doing it. Seems rather pointless
otherwise.

--
John Stumbles

Procrastinate now!

Merryterry wrote:
On 29 Nov, 13:40, NoSpam wrote:
Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
Any suggestions who sells them?

If I can't find anything I'll have to resort to what I've done befo
15mm wallplate with a rad tail screwed into it and a 90 deg service
valve on the tail, then a flexi. Crazy! There must be an easier way.

Dave

Use a 15mm Iso valve then a short piece of 15mm copper then a 15mm -
10mm threaded Flexitap connector stocked at most good Plumbers
Merchants.

Thanks, I'll probably have to resort to that; it's what I ended-up doing
last time.

D

On Nov 29, 1:40 pm, NoSpam wrote:
Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
Any suggestions who sells them?

Hi,

What flexis came with the tap, if any?

cheers,
Pete.

Pete C wrote:
On Nov 29, 1:40 pm, NoSpam wrote:
Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
Any suggestions who sells them?

Hi,

What flexis came with the tap, if any?

cheers,
Pete.

Standard copper tails.

D

John Stumbles wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:40:32 +0000, NoSpam wrote:

Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).

I always prefer to keep the service valves separate from the tap
tails so that if I need to replace or remove the taps I can use the
service valves to shut of the water while I'm doing it. Seems rather
pointless otherwise.

Indeed. I've always thought that flexible tap tails/connectors with a
built in valve are a daft idea. You need to ba able to turn the water off &
then remove the tail, leaving the tails attached to the tap.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

The Medway Handyman wrote:
John Stumbles wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:40:32 +0000, NoSpam wrote:

Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
I always prefer to keep the service valves separate from the tap
tails so that if I need to replace or remove the taps I can use the
service valves to shut of the water while I'm doing it. Seems rather
pointless otherwise.

Indeed. I've always thought that flexible tap tails/connectors with a
built in valve are a daft idea. You need to ba able to turn the water off &
then remove the tail, leaving the tails attached to the tap.



Normal tap servicing just requires changing the washer/jumper/cartridge
rather than disconnecting the tap, but I agree that preferably it should
be possible to easily remove the flexi.
How DID we all manage before isolators came into fashion ;-)

Dave

On Nov 29, 5:39 pm, NoSpam wrote:
What flexis came with the tap, if any?

Standard copper tails.

OK

I'd put a 15mm compression/15mm solder fitting to 1/2" BSP male on the
copper tails,

Then use a 15mm compression to 1/2 BSP female with service valve to
connect to it.

If the copper tails will get in the way...

I'd get M10 to 15mm compression flexibles for the tap.

Then take the compression nut off to leave just a 1/2 BSP male
(virtually all 15mm compression fittings use a 1/2 BSP thread)

But check the end of the thread isn't sharp, sanding a little 'flat'
on it if need be.

cheers,
Pete.

In article ,
NoSpam writes:
Having failed to find some basin tap shut-off valves for a sensible
price I've been looking without success for some flexi tap connectors
(with a built-in service valve) that are suitable for a moonbloc tap
(10mm thread, I think).
Any suggestions who sells them?

If I can't find anything I'll have to resort to what I've done befo
15mm wallplate with a rad tail screwed into it and a 90 deg service
valve on the tail, then a flexi. Crazy! There must be an easier way.

I use an isolation valve with 15mm compression one side and 1/2"
union the other side (e.g. BES part number 10403), and flexible
connectors with a 1/2" male thread on one end (e.g. 15mm compression
fitting with nut and olive removed). You need to add a seal to the
union as it's not designed to seal against a 1/2" male -- an 0-ring
works perfectly.

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