Installing a CM927 Wireless progstat the other day I thought it would be
useful to have a copy of the installation manual (since I'd be leaving the
one that came with it with the customer).

So, off I went to Honeywell's wibble ...

Their home page http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes.htm trumpets the
'900 series (but has a broken-graphic icon where a picture of it should
be - not a good start). However their INSTALLATION AND USER GUIDES page
at http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes/manuals.htm only lists the CM67
range!

So I emailed them ) and they sent me a PDF
.... containing a very grotty scan of the manual, 10 times the file size of
the CM67 PDF! Emailed them back asking for a proper PDF but got the reply
"Im afraid that is the only copy we have".

What's going on with Honeywell? Are they having serious problems in the IT
and/or clue departments? Anyone come across a real PDF for this device?

--
John Stumbles

My karma ran over my dogma

On 2 Nov, 13:59, John Stumbles wrote:

What's going on with Honeywell? Are they having serious problems in the IT
and/or clue departments? Anyone come across a real PDF for this device?

Will this suffice?

http://europe.hbc.honeywell.com/prod...6uk07r1006.pdf

(Found via a Google search so don't know how to navigate there via
Honeywell's site, if it's even possible)

Mathew

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:08:14 -0700, Mathew Newton wrote:

Will this suffice?

It will - thanks!

http://europe.hbc.honeywell.com/prod...6uk07r1006.pdf

(Found via a Google search so don't know how to navigate there via
Honeywell's site, if it's even possible)

It is navigable from their europe site, but their UK site seems to be a
dog's dinner. Sorry: should have STFWed for myself :-)

It's not the same as the leaflet that came with the 'stat, but the
contents are all there, just in colour and in a different arrangement.

--
John Stumbles

Seagull Management
Management technique characterised by flying in, making a lot of noise,
crapping on everything, and then leaving.

"John Stumbles" wrote in message
...
Installing a CM927 Wireless progstat the other day I thought it would be
useful to have a copy of the installation manual (since I'd be leaving the
one that came with it with the customer).

So, off I went to Honeywell's wibble ...

Their home page http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes.htm trumpets the
'900 series (but has a broken-graphic icon where a picture of it should
be - not a good start). However their INSTALLATION AND USER GUIDES page
at http://content.honeywell.com/uk/homes/manuals.htm only lists the CM67
range!

So I emailed them ) and they sent me a PDF
... containing a very grotty scan of the manual, 10 times the file size of
the CM67 PDF! Emailed them back asking for a proper PDF but got the reply
"Im afraid that is the only copy we have".

What's going on with Honeywell? Are they having serious problems in the IT
and/or clue departments? Anyone come across a real PDF for this device?

--
John Stumbles

My karma ran over my dogma

What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

AT wrote:

What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

My sister had a CM927 fitted when they put gas in. It has optimization,
but it does not have the very handy "party mode" and "holiday mode"
options which are on my CM67. On the other hand, the nice backlit LCD is
easier to read.

Googling, it looks like Honeywell say the CM927 *does* have both of
those modes. I guess there are different types of CM927, so watch out
for that.

On Nov 4, 12:20 pm, "Geronimo W. Christ Esq"
wrote:
AT wrote:
What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

My sister had a CM927 fitted when they put gas in. It has optimization,
but it does not have the very handy "party mode" and "holiday mode"
options which are on my CM67. On the other hand, the nice backlit LCD is
easier to read.

Googling, it looks like Honeywell say the CM927 *does* have both of
those modes. I guess there are different types of CM927, so watch out
for that.

Yep, my CM927 has party and holiday mode.

Are you *sure* she's got a CM927?

Mathew

"Geronimo W. Christ Esq" wrote in message
...
AT wrote:

What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not
had a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

My sister had a CM927 fitted when they put gas in. It has optimization,
but it does not have the very handy "party mode" and "holiday mode"
options which are on my CM67. On the other hand, the nice backlit LCD is
easier to read.

Googling, it looks like Honeywell say the CM927 *does* have both of those
modes. I guess there are different types of CM927, so watch out for that.

Does she definitely have the CM927? It has certainly been a function on the
few I have installed.

On 3 Nov, 13:51, "AT" wrote:

What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not had
a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

I installed one on my house a couple of weeks ago. I find it
excellent. It's very good at holding a steady temperature. The
optimisation idea is really good, as are the "party" and "holiday"
modes (which allow you to depart from the usual programme for either
hours or days). It also has a "day-off" mode which makes it run the
Sunday programme for one day if you're at home during the week. Being
able to move the thing from room to room is great too - you don't have
to agonise too much over where the optimal location will be for the
wiring, and you can make sure that wherever you happen to be in the
house is at the required temperature. All-in-all the idea of
progamming the system by time AND temperature makes perfect sense -
it's intuitively how you need the system to operate. Previously I'd
struggled on for a couple of years with just a time clock and TRVs on
the rads, so this is a whole lot better and hopefully will save me a
few bob off my gas bill.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:51:48 +0000, AT wrote:

What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not
had a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

I tend to fit them as they're the least awful progstats I've tried to
program. Even so you need a bit of thought to set them up usefully.

--
John Stumbles

I used to think the brain was the most interesting part of the body
- until I realised what was telling me that

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:51:48 +0000, AT wrote:

What's your opinion of the CM927? The previous owner of my house had not
had a roomstat fitted so I'm thinking of buying the CM927.

I tend to fit them as they're the least awful progstats I've tried to
program. Even so you need a bit of thought to set them up usefully.

I just set up a 907 (which I think is the same, only it's wired) and
think I am doing OK with respect to comfort (but cannot monitor
efficiency, as I did not keep records from the previous thermostat).
What is tricky?

Thanks!

Kostas

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

What is tricky?

If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
with the others? And when you manually bump the temperature up or down how
long does the change last? Takes a bit of thought to choose useful
transition points. Say someone is up after the transition to a low
night-time temperature and therefore they push the temperature back up: I
want another transition that'll reset it to the night-time temperature
later, in case They forget to put it back manually. So if my night-time
temperature starts at midnight I might have another transition point (set
to the same night-time temp) at 2am.

--
John Stumbles

Question Authority

On 7 Nov, 23:11, John Stumbles wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
What is tricky?

If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
with the others? And when you manually bump the temperature up or down how
long does the change last? Takes a bit of thought to choose useful
transition points. Say someone is up after the transition to a low
night-time temperature and therefore they push the temperature back up: I
want another transition that'll reset it to the night-time temperature
later, in case They forget to put it back manually. So if my night-time
temperature starts at midnight I might have another transition point (set
to the same night-time temp) at 2am.

--
John Stumbles

Heh.. I like that idea.

I've 'hidden' my unusued transition points as they weren't required
however maybe I'll look at including them to automatically 'fight
back' when the other half manually ups the temperature!!

Mathew

On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
with the others?

While in PROG mode, press the I button for 2 seconds and they
disappear.

And when you manually bump the temperature up or down how
long does the change last?

If you are still on Auto, until the next transition point. (I have not
read the manual, how am I doing? :-)).

Say someone is up after the transition to a low
night-time temperature and therefore they push the temperature back up: I
want another transition that'll reset it to the night-time temperature
later, in case They forget to put it back manually.

Assuming that they have not used the Party function (which should be a
favour-yielding offence :-)) and that they have not gone into Manual,
at some point you will go back to normal. Assuming an odd occurrence,
it doesn't matter much, does it?

So if my night-time
temperature starts at midnight I might have another transition point (set
to the same night-time temp) at 2am.

You can do that and I would certainly do that if cranking up the
heating in the middle of the night was a regular occurrence. Or you can
show them how the (excellent) Party function works.

Kostas

On 8 Nov, 13:26, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
with the others?

While in PROG mode, press the I button for 2 seconds and they
disappear.

I think you have completely missed John's point.

Now, would you like a biscuit or a medal for your programming
achievements? ;-)

Mathew

On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Mathew Newton wrote:

On 8 Nov, 13:26, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, John Stumbles wrote:
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:57:04 +0000, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:

If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do you do
with the others?

While in PROG mode, press the I button for 2 seconds and they
disappear.

I think you have completely missed John's point.

Can you help me find it? Ta!

Kostas

On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 23:11:17 GMT John Stumbles wrote :
If you want fewer than 6 transition points during the day what do
you do with the others? And when you manually bump the temperature
up or down how long does the change last?

I always use the party for this: two hours at 21C or whatever
(likewise if I have go out but a low temp)

--
Tony Bryer SDA UK 'Software to build on' http://www.sda.co.uk

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:45:38 +0000, Tony Bryer wrote:

I always use the party for this: two hours at 21C or whatever
(likewise if I have go out but a low temp)

My bad. I thought that only worked if you remembered to hit the party
button before it had made the transition to the lower night-time
temperature (and it's inevitably when it's started to cool down you
notice and want to rectify it). I think that's how the CM67 worked, but
with the CM900 series you can set the party temperature as well. RTFM :-)

--
John Stumbles

Extreme moderate